Dave777 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 That's what confused me - N gauge loco on what appeared to be finer scale track than, say, Peco Code 55! Thanks for clarifying (both of you). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Woodenhead is correct on every count except the last, we have never been to the Wigan show. Sorry my mistake it was Manchester, memory is playing tricks on me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted March 9, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2011 Hi, I noticed the mention of "powered bogie" singular on the 350 and 4CEP, and hope these 4-car units will be OK on gradients. Presumably the same mechanism as the 108 and 150, and the Blue Pullman would appear to have two powered bogies. I suspect that is just a clumsy wording relating to it not being possible to fit the close-coupling mechanism to the inner 'powered bogie' of a set, rather than any kind of backtracking to the bad old days of individual power bogies, on the Blue Pullman they mention both points B) Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 , rather than any kind of backtracking to the bad old days of individual power bogies, The 108, 150 are powered by a single powered bogie. The motor sits a bit further down the car though, unlike the old Farish motor bogie. Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted March 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2011 If the CEP and 350 power units are anything like as powerful as the 150, then there will be no worries about managing a 4 or 8 car set with ease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If the CEP and 350 power units are anything like as powerful as the 150, then there will be no worries about managing a 4 or 8 car set with ease. If you read closely on the Bachmann homepage, the Blue Pullman is quoted: "Six car DMU with close coupling mechanism with NEM couplings (except powered bogies)" and the 4CEP: "Four Car unit with close coupling mechanism with NEM couplings (except powered bogie)" Of course it could be typos but is it possible that the pullman has more than one powered car each with an individual powered bogie.......? B) Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2011 If you read closely on the Bachmann homepage, the Blue Pullman is quoted: "Six car DMU with close coupling mechanism with NEM couplings (except powered bogies)" and the 4CEP: "Four Car unit with close coupling mechanism with NEM couplings (except powered bogie)" Of course it could be typos but is it possible that the pullman has more than one powered car each with an individual powered bogie.......? B) Cheers, Alan Or it could have a mechanism similar to the Voyager, i.e centrally mounted motor driving both bogies on one coach via drive shafts? Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I also read it as saying that the 5-car BP would have two powered bogies, so presumably they have decided the 150/108 single-bogie mechanism will be good for up to 4 cars. Must go and see if my 150 can push two extra coaches up a hill... The logical thing for the BP would be to have a single powered bogie each end with the motors in the engine compartments. I read on another forum that Liliput (also part of Bachmann) are doing this for a FLIRT unit. However the wording implies that the powered bogies are not the end ones, and there could be problems getting the mechanism underneath a sloping front end, so we could be looking at inner bogies powered and blanked out windows. In that case powering all wheels on whichever inner coach has the fewest window would be the more sensible way to go, only needing one motor and one decoder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 If you read closely on the Bachmann homepage, the Blue Pullman is quoted: "Six car DMU with close coupling mechanism with NEM couplings (except powered bogies)" and the 4CEP: "Four Car unit with close coupling mechanism with NEM couplings (except powered bogie)" Of course it could be typos but is it possible that the pullman has more than one powered car each with an individual powered bogie.......? B) Cheers, Alan Actually, scratch that - I didn't read the line below : "Four axle powered car with twin flywheels" Oops!!!! Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Actually, scratch that - I didn't read the line below : "Four axle powered car with twin flywheels" Nor did I. Double oops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Al Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The driven chassis will probably be based on the one used in the 220 DMU, its already DCC friendly and with a little bit of tweaking a loksound and speaker will fit. Have you heard this officially (or otherwise) from Bachmann? There have been many new models since it was designed, so I'd have thought it'll be new, rather than based on the 220.... Cheers, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I've been searching around for the last two evenings trying to find out some info about this but just can't seem to find any reference at all, so... 371-503 Class 101 Two Car DMU in BR Express Parcels livery ...can someone please tell me what this actually is?! I can't find any info on what it looks like or when or where it ran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Presume it is this one produced by Captain Electra. Click on N gauge DMUs in the menu to the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Here's a small picture (not taken by me) of the prototype after it had been scrapped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I've been searching around for the last two evenings trying to find out some info about this but just can't seem to find any reference at all, so... 371-503 Class 101 Two Car DMU in BR Express Parcels livery ...can someone please tell me what this actually is?! I can't find any info on what it looks like or when or where it ran. Hallo, If you can get a hold of the Rail Express March 2011 and turn to the Modelling section, there is an article on TPOs, so I quote from page XXIV (all rights etc....) Class 101 Vehicle Numbers: 51430/9/41 5328/21/30/3/55 (type DMBSO) Period in Parcels use: 1986 - 1989 Allocation during parcels use: Neville Hill / Cambridge Hope that helps JGP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Oooh yes it does, because that means it's outside my 70s era, so I don't have to worry about it (and it was on the radar as my layout is about 50% parcels traffic). Thanks for your help edwin, bennyboy and JGP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste234 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Looks like Hattons are starting to upload new releases to their website, although all the new Farish lot is currently in the "Graham Farish Harry Potter Range" area Might have to make some Pre-orders! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 13, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2011 Looks like Hattons are starting to upload new releases to their website, although all the new Farish lot is currently in the "Graham Farish Harry Potter Range" area Might have to make some Pre-orders! Well Spotted! I wondered what was taking them so long to get them on the site. 1x Tornado & 1x 5MT for Ropley pre-ordered! Now to hope they arrive a good few months apart to ease the pain on the wallet Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste234 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Well pre-ordered Tornado for £121 which isn't too bad, I just hope we don't have to wait too long for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggy1953 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 A Very good offering, Well Done Bachmann - N Gauge is certainley on the up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 13, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2011 I just hope we don't have to wait too long for it The prototype Deltic first broke cover at the Ally Pally show in March last year but didn't appear in the shops until Novemeber, so 8 months later. Hopefully the A1 will arrive sooner than that as it looks a bit further along but I suspect we're still talking between 4-6 months. Tom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Sept/Oct for the A1 according to the Bachman website. A full 9 months for the new Mk Is (Dec/Jan), which initially I was disappointed about, but then considered that going by current progress my layout should be just about ready to receive them around that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted March 14, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hi folks I suspect that the SPA price is a typo, especially as the Metalair PCAs, which are also newly tooled, are at the more usual £10 mark for a 4-wheel wagon. I emailed Bachmann to clarify, as Hattons price for the SPAs and ZAAs was £18, so was looking like the RRP had been correct. Anyway, I received this reply: Thank you for your email. There was a printing error on the price list. The vehicles with loads have a RRP of £14.95 and the one without (ZAA) £12.95. This will be corrected before they are released. Dennis Lovett Public Relations Manager Bachmann Europe Plc So good news then! Starting to wonder about the price of thee Express Parcels 101 though- pre order price at Hattons is £26 more than the previously announced liveries. Not sure I can justify that- I might go for the RR livery one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Starting to wonder about the price of thee Express Parcels 101 though- pre order price at Hattons is £26 more than the previously announced liveries. Not sure I can justify that- I might go for the RR livery one. Is that due to a higher RRP or Hattons thinking that this livery will be more popular and pricing accordingly? They commonly price popular liveries closer to RRP while ones they think will be less popular get a bigger discount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted March 14, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2011 Is that due to a higher RRP or Hattons thinking that this livery will be more popular and pricing accordingly? They commonly price popular liveries closer to RRP while ones they think will be less popular get a bigger discount. Could be. Also might be due to the previously announced liveries having a lower RRP last year, and Hattons based their price on this. The 2 cars now have a RRP of £110, with the Express Parcels an extra £10. Not sure what the RRPs were last year though. 20% on £110 is £88, so the Hattons price is an extra £15 off that for the B/G, RR.Green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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