andyman7 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Five Westerns were built without headboard clips. The other 69 were built with them. So why choose D1026 as the identity of the weathered model when it is one of the five which never had the clips? Geoff Endacott I think it's called sod's law.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think it's called sod's law.... More like bad desicion making, who chooses the loco numbers anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 In Dapol's defense, this kind of research is harder than it looks. I have been helping the NGS with their Collett full brake and it took several of us quite a lot of research to nail down the details and livery variations. That is just for a single model. Dapol have dozens of models in their range. Like it or not, they are not experts on the detail variations of every single one. These errors are often only obvious in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Great! Very useful to know. D1005 shall become D1011. And I'll sell the D1005 plates on eBay... It seems I jumped on a bandwagon without realising as I purchased my 1011 plates a couple of months ago from Brian... but my "glory" has yet to be worked on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 In Dapol's defense, this kind of research is harder than it looks. I have been helping the NGS with their Collett full brake and it took several of us quite a lot of research to nail down the details and livery variations. That is just for a single model. Dapol have dozens of models in their range. Like it or not, they are not experts on the detail variations of every single one. These errors are often only obvious in hindsight. A single photograph of their chosen prototype would have been the only necessary research. Geoff Endacott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Thanks, I took a look. Interesting that D1002 Western Explorer's withdrawal is stated on that thread as 29-01-74, Wikipedia shows October 1976:: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Rail_Class_52_locomotives If the 1974 date Rugd1022's thread is the correct one, then the Dapol blue D1005 Western Venturer will not work for renaming to D1002 Western Explorer as surely the Talisman clips would not have been fitted to D1002 before wihdrawal? In which case renaming the Dapol maroon D1012 Western Firebrand (which doesn't have the clips) to D1002 Western Explorer would work. That being the case I'll probably rename the Dapol BR blue D1005 Western Venturer to D1011 Western Thunderer, the latter not being withdrawn until October 1975 - so I would image the Talisman clips would have been fitted to that loco? [Edited to reflect correct number for D1012 Western Firebrand - originally stated D1023] I wouldn't pay much attention to Wiki if I were you! Edited July 21, 2014 by Rugd1022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 22, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Wiki lists D1011/46/67 as all scrapped at Swindon But they will all be at the GWR Diesel gala this weekend! And theres a rumour a golden ochre D1015 may be arriving soon..... Hee hee Phil Edited July 22, 2014 by Phil Bullock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Cheltenham Model Centre have changed their webpage to: 1015 has arrived and are being tested for despatch from Monday Cant wait for mine Or they can be collected from the shop or CMC stand at Glos & Warwicks Railway Diesel gala at Toddington from saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 23, 2014 Or they can be collected from the shop or CMC stand at Glos & Warwicks Railway Diesel gala at Toddington from saturday. You sir are a cad and a bounder! Putting temptation in the way of us poor impoverished modellers..... Hee hee OK I give in! Put mine on the van please..... Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Collected my Western Champion from CMC today. Very nice it is too. I am told that over 2/3rds of the loco's have sold already. Couple of pictures of loco on shed 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nice one Steve! Looks cracking Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I even like the box!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The empty boxes will probably be appearing on eBay within the next few days. Geoff Endacott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted July 28, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2014 I even like the box!! The empty boxes will probably be appearing on eBay within the next few days. Geoff Endacott Jimbo did the box design - he will appreciate the comments, thanks! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternKing Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm sure the cause of the lighting problems has already been mentioned in this thread, (But I'm not trawling 110 pages to find it) The issue is with the lighting board. There is no overload protection, so if a short circuit occurs, the integrated circuit on the board starts to overheat. I experienced this on the layout in the shop - the loco derailed and the leading bogie crossed the rails, causing a short. Bang go the lights. This is a consistent and repeatable problem. The LEDs themselves are not affected as they are protected by their resistors, but the Integrated circuit that controlls them, is ruined. Putting a DCC chip in fixes the issue (Which is why no-one running DCC has a problem) so you should have no concerns buying the model if you are running digital. But, the circuitry should be right in the first place. I did write to Dapol about this, when Richard was experiencing his problems, suggesting what I believed the cause of the problem to be, but got no response. I'm having similar silly problms with the lighting in their N gauge HSTs (Works fine on DCC but not on analogue) The model might look fabulous (and it does) and may be the most accurate ever, but it can only be a great model if the whole package (Electrics and mechanicals included) inside and out, is of the same quality. I have thirteen Dapol n-gauge Western's & have recently had one to DCC supplies for repair to defective end lighting in one direction but I have now discovered another has the same fault which I've only had a few weeks so I tested the rest & found another five were faulty, that's over half in less than a year, I'm sure these haven't all derailed! PS I have several class 22's & class 35's that don't seem to suffer the same problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles73128 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Received mine today, looks amazing! Haven’t taken out of the packaging yet, but the brake rodding requires fitting? I’m sure it was factory fit on D1000? Not a problem, just wondered what glue to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I gather now it as being tested by some person ( in this country), That it does not wobble & can go over points ok. please say yes, them i may go for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 1, 2014 Every time that topic comes up I suggest a MFYE class 43 - 4 to choose from! Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnfromoz Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Having now taken delivery of the latest blue weathered issue (Centurian) and put it through its paces on DCC I cautiously make the following observations, in the context of somewhat patchy quality of the first releases:- There seems to me to be a general improvement in QC. Body screws on mine at least all properly threaded, with none overtightened. Not a hint of wheel wobble and bogie clearance when swivelling looks and feels to be completely unimpeded, wheels all sitting square to a flat surface underneath. Running over my code 75 points seems ok, shock/horror! Now these are only initial impressions, but just maybe some new QC measures have indeed been incorporated into the manufacture of this great model, as rumoured earlier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted August 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2014 I wish those pictures of the CMC 1015 had not been posted. It looks so nice, I've had to order one. Just as well there is plenty of overtime at work, as I'll need to fit it with DCC sound when it comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWHIZZO Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Mr Colin K . , Cheltenham M.C. will send the model away prior to purchase for sound fitting at Howes of Oxford for an addition of 100 notes, a good saving on their usual price plus no extra tooing and froing postal expenses . The Howes sound is superb no doubt in my mind the best rendition so far of a class 52, the horn noises are bang on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 The empty boxes will probably be appearing on eBay within the next few days. Geoff Endacott ...along with a good few of the locos, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinjamesporter Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Legomanbiffo has done a chip for the class 52 now. Just seen it on dc kits site. Will be interesting to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) Seriously considering one of these fantastic models. Am I right in thinking that D1015 does not have details to be correct for the preserved Champion, but D1023 does for the preserved Fusilier? Any help on which details are correct/incorrect would be good. Thanks Edited August 6, 2014 by G-BOAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Mine arrived today, fab, had to flick one end of one of the plates off and re-apply some adhesive as it was buldging, but I'm very pleased with it... Considering I'm a modern image modeller it's my third... Takes me back to standing on the steps of Teignmouth Signal Box where my uncle Jim worked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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