southernelectric Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I wish those pictures of the CMC 1015 had not been posted. It looks so nice, I've had to order one.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernelectric Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Received mine today, looks amazing! Haven’t taken out of the packaging yet, but the brake rodding requires fitting? I’m sure it was factory fit on D1000? Not a problem, just wondered what glue to use? When I spoke to Dapol at Ally Pally a few months back, they told me that they were no longer going to fit the brake rodding to any of the Western models as it was too prone to coming off in transit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernelectric Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Seriously considering one of these fantastic models. Am I right in thinking that D1015 does not have details to be correct for the preserved Champion, but D1023 does for the preserved Fusilier? Any help on which details are correct/incorrect would be good. Thanks I believe your thinking is correct. The D1015 model does not have the Talisman clips so represents the loco in the 1960s when it carried the Golden Ochre first time round. The MSYP D1023 model has them fitted so that would represent it in current, preserved form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffi_C Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Last call on D1015 with only six left in stock. I doubt they'll survive the day. Edited August 20, 2014 by Steffi_C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2014 Got my hands on mine yesterday It was hijacked by SWMBO as a birthday pressie so had to wait for the big day yesterday Sound chip to be ordered... Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Got my hands on mine yesterday It was hijacked by SWMBO as a birthday pressie so had to wait for the big day yesterday Sound chip to be ordered... Phil (A very) Happy Birthday ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffi_C Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 D1015. The six remaining unchipped models have all gone this morning. Still two chipped examples: http://www.cheltenhammodelcentre.com/products/28129-Dapol-Class-52-Western-D1015-Western-Champion-Limited-Edition-DCC-Fitted/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted August 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2014 (A very) Happy Birthday ? Yes indeed - a champion one in fact! Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil4242 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Just got my first ever Dapol model, the OO Western and but unfortunately I am having problems in that it almost constantly derails over point work, even at slow speeds. It seems to be when the "front" bogie is leading that the problems occurs i.e. the first wheel set fails to negotiate the points. I tried unclipping the front valance to ensure that nothing was interfering with the bogie movement but it made no difference. The bogie does appear free to rotate, having read similar derailing problems in this thread. For reference I'm using standard Hornby track from 2013 and have almost 60 other locos, none of which have problems with my points. This Dapol model is having real problems though. Have checked the wheels B2B and looks OK. Can anyone suggest a fix for this problem? hi, first time post so appologies if breaking etiquette. Same problem on my recent purchase and eventually found the center wheel on one side of the offending bogie to be larger diameter than the outers, causing the bogie as a whole to pivot laterally and therefore the leading axle (in the direction of travel at the time) to be raised from the track and therefore prone to derailing. However came on here to see if there was an easy fix to that as I can't see how to dismantle the bogie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hi, neil4242. I would return it to the retailer. The 52 is 'not fit for purpose' I believe is how such matters are described in the sale of goods act. I certainly would not try to dismantle the bogie. Hope that things work out for you. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steffi_C Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hi Neil, welcome to the forum. You may want to contact Dapol directly, particularly if you've bought a version which is no longer available new. I understand they are aware of the issue, and will fit new wheel sets under warranty. Returning it to the retailer may leave you getting a refund, but without a loco you otherwise want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgilbert2 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 hi, first time post so appologies if breaking etiquette. Same problem on my recent purchase and eventually found the center wheel on one side of the offending bogie to be larger diameter than the outers, causing the bogie as a whole to pivot laterally and therefore the leading axle (in the direction of travel at the time) to be raised from the track and therefore prone to derailing. However came on here to see if there was an easy fix to that as I can't see how to dismantle the bogie. I ended up getting a refund on mine. Both my bogie leading wheels had "fresh air" under them and constantly derailed. It will be a long time before I have the confidence to buy another Dapol, which is a shame. In the end I got a second hand Hornby Western, yes I know, but at least its a confident runner. I'm actually quite pleased with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernelectric Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I ended up getting a refund on mine. Both my bogie leading wheels had "fresh air" under them and constantly derailed. It will be a long time before I have the confidence to buy another Dapol, which is a shame. In the end I got a second hand Hornby Western, yes I know, but at least its a confident runner. I'm actually quite pleased with it Can I ask which particular model? Wasn't the Cheltenham Champion model was it? I haven't even tested mine yet, just a cursory look at it in the box! Had a similar problem with the second Dapol Western I got (D1005 Western Venturer). It the Kept derailing on a temporary test oval I set up with no pointwork. Just would not stay on the track. It went back to DCC Supplies twice, ended up with Dapol sending out a new model. I haven't tested all my Dapol Westerns yet, and I've accumulated half a dozen of them now, but the ones I did test didn't exhibit the same issue as the first one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgilbert2 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Can I ask which particular model? Wasn't the Cheltenham Champion model was it? I haven't even tested mine yet, just a cursory look at it in the box! Had a similar problem with the second Dapol Western I got (D1005 Western Venturer). It the Kept derailing on a temporary test oval I set up with no pointwork. Just would not stay on the track. It went back to DCC Supplies twice, ended up with Dapol sending out a new model. I haven't tested all my Dapol Westerns yet, and I've accumulated half a dozen of them now, but the ones I did test didn't exhibit the same issue as the first one. Mine was the Dapol 4D-003-003 D1056 'Western Sultan' in Maroon. I would certainly recommend giving all yours a good test to avoid any disappointment later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 It still does not sound good for this model. Think i`ll stay away from this one a little longer, My Dapol wezzie went straight back to the shop ,with a serious wobble, bits missing and throwing its self of the track at ever corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernelectric Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Mine was the Dapol 4D-003-003 D1056 'Western Sultan' in Maroon. I would certainly recommend giving all yours a good test to avoid any disappointment later on. I certainly plan to in time. Sultan was among the first batch IIRC, Certainly Venturer was. I think the later batches have had fewer issues (going by what's been said on here). There's a two year warranty on these from Dapol isn't there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgilbert2 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Yes, you get 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I acquired one a few months ago... the first of the new BR Blues ones - as I've not badged it I can't remember which one it is .... but all I've done with it is test it on a rolling road for an hour or so in each direction and run it in both directions on my boys layout which has a mix of std and curved Hornby turnouts and a few tight corners; I've found no problems with road holding although there is a slight wobble. However, I'll be re-wheeling this at some point using P4 Ultrascales that I acquired a while back... and then it'll be a superdetailing job to see what can be done... but that's a way off and it's in the queue. Suffice to say.... mine's to be worked on and has been "tested" and seems satis. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Yes, you get 2 years. Warranty or sentence? Geoff Endacott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted August 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2014 I believe its a standard 1 year warranty - you have to pay for the £15 service at DCC supplies to 'qualify' for the second year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1056WesternSultan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Just looking on the Hattons website and they show the following 4D-003-004 Class 52 D1058 "Western Nobleman" BR blue with full yellow panel 3 in stock. Not suitable for use with Bachmann decoders. Has anyoine any idea why Bachmann decoders are not suitable. I have a 21 pin direct plug in fitted to my model D1062 and it works fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Why is it just this one that's not suitable or all of them I wonder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteB Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I have a question about the weathered Dapol Westerns. Is the Kernow exclusive model, Western Ruler, the same weathering as the more widely available Western Centurion? If not, which is the better weathering job in people's opinion, or are they just different? Thanks, Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Just looking on the Hattons website and they show the following 4D-003-004 Class 52 D1058 "Western Nobleman" BR blue with full yellow panel 3 in stock. Not suitable for use with Bachmann decoders. Has anyoine any idea why Bachmann decoders are not suitable. I have a 21 pin direct plug in fitted to my model D1062 and it works fine. Maybe its because they sell thier own decoder, I have fitted them to a pair of Bachmann 40's an 85 and 37, they seem to work ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Just looking on the Hattons website and they show the following 4D-003-004 Class 52 D1058 "Western Nobleman" BR blue with full yellow panel 3 in stock. Not suitable for use with Bachmann decoders. Has anyoine any idea why Bachmann decoders are not suitable. I have a 21 pin direct plug in fitted to my model D1062 and it works fine. Maybe its because they sell thier own decoder, I have fitted them to a pair of Bachmann 40's an 85 and 37, they seem to work ok. Mine are fitted with Bachmann's 36-557 21-pin decoder and they work fine. But this is a 4 function decoder. I suspect the advice is because most Bachmann decoders, including the earlier 21-pin 36-554, are/were 2 or 3 function and so some of the lights won't work. Edited September 10, 2014 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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