Froxfield2012 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 gwrrob Unfortunately I have very few pictures of Dainton because our Devon holidays were dogged by awful weather. One of a hydraulic is already on the website and there are a couple more to be "processed" and that's it! In any event my father was always conscious that Peter Bowles and the peerless David S FIsh were the masters of that location. David Fish was a real artist, although you wouldn't have thought so seeing him as I remember him, driving a combined harvester! Off topic, so I will close! Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) Bachmann production samples now showing on't website. 9017 is described as "a preserved example", which I find odd given how keen Dennis Lovett was to stress it isn't 'as preserved'! The weathered 9022 has the riveted tender.Bachmann has done its homework well considering the variations in the class, but these two locos are unique in their respective 'feature sets' as far as I can tell, so be wary if considering renumbering.9003's bogie probably isn't correct (I don't think bogies would have been swapped between locos), nor is its cabsheet handrail height, and the jury is still out on its livery. They're all a bit drop dead gorgeous, though. Edited November 29, 2013 by Miss Prism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 29, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 29, 2013 Bachmann production samples now showing on't website. 9017 is described as "a preserved example", which I find odd given how keen Dennis Lovett was to stress it isn't 'as preserved'! The weathered 9022 has the riveted tender. Bachmann has done its homework well considering the variations in the class, but these two locos are unique in their respective 'feature sets' as far as I can tell, so be wary if considering renumbering. 9003's bogie probably isn't correct (I don't think bogies would have been swapped between locos), nor is its cabsheet handrail height, and the jury is still out on its livery. They're all a bit drop dead gorgeous, though. Technically it does represent the preserved example as it was at a particular time to the extent that 9017 ran for some time in preservation in black livery and was pictured in that condition in the Bachmann catalogue. However what is not quite so clear until someone comes along with some really clear pics is whether or not it at that time had a snaphead rivetted tender (I suspect it probably did). None of which is relevant to me as I'm quite happy with it in BR condition for the late 1950s when it appears to have had a tender with countersunk rivets - only difference being it was downright mucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Froxfield2012 - reference your #268, 9017 has indeed had two tenders whilst at the Bluebell (not quite sure how, midnight raid at Didcot to get a newer riveted one?) and has had at least two rivet-styles of smokebox wrapper, for the sake of argument the '1962' and '2003' style. The '2003' style, which Bachmann has adopted, is aligned more to what the majority of Dukedogs were in the 1950s (including 9017, I think). I wasn't aware that 9017 had had 2 tenders in preservation, though it does make sense that the first one may have been life expired as the loco spent a period running with a C class tender in the early days. Whether it was a spare or the one currently behind 592, I am unsure. I would be very interested to know where 9017's new tender appeared from? Evidence of the loco with the C class' tender can be found here: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/gwr/dukedog.html Evidence of the loco on the Bluebell with its smooth sided tender: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2514497 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David32424 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Here are two photos my Dad took of 9017 shortly after it arrived on the Bluebell the second photo shows the second tender, albeit on the far right of the photo, if this helps anyone. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/EcQrEPXYxgZdjov_DESmCdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4qrn5tDeh4TqZsnaPXAXvtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted December 2, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 2, 2013 I wasn't aware that 9017 had had 2 tenders in preservation, though it does make sense that the first one may have been life expired as the loco spent a period running with a C class tender in the early days. Whether it was a spare or the one currently behind 592, I am unsure. I would be very interested to know where 9017's new tender appeared from? Evidence of the loco with the C class' tender can be found here: http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/gwr/dukedog.html Evidence of the loco on the Bluebell with its smooth sided tender: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2514497 The tender currently behind 592 was obtained by the Bluebell as a "spare", not attached to another loco. 592's tender at preservation was I believe then scrapped due to corrosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mow Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Dukedog with that non GWR tender. 2.50 on clip from Adolf Hitler, My Part in His Downfall - good sequence at the end of the engine moving at speed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I see according to model rail magazine via there Facebook page they have had a Bachmann delivery with a dukedog in it!! Regards Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 9, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2013 Getting close then, Hope Gibson don't take too long to do the appropriate wheel on a 2mm axle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete55 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Getting close then, Hope Gibson don't take too long to do the appropriate wheel on a 2mm axle! Dangerous assumption that it'll be on 2.14mm axles.......the last Bachmann loco, the L&Y 2-4-2 reverted to 3mm!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 10, 2013 A typo on my part Hadn't realised they had used anything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) It's here. Review coming in next issue of Model Rail.......and the J11.....and the Class 40 if we can make space for it. CHRIS LEIGH Edited December 10, 2013 by dibber25 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 7013 Posted December 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 11, 2013 Whoever said bad things arrive in threes? Dukedog, J11 and Cl 40….Three cheers for Xmas and Bachmann. In what has been a relatively sparse year it certainly is finishing with a flourish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Just in case anyone didn't see 9017 on Wright writes.... A full review will follow in BRM. Edited December 13, 2013 by Tony Wright 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2013 Just in case anyone didn't see 9017 on Wright writes.... Bachmann Dukedog 31-086 01.jpg Bachmann Dukedog 31-086 02.jpg A full review will follow in BRM. If the review is as good as John Emerson's on the Star I will be very pleased and impressed.What a review should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The Dukedog really looks like a fantastic model. I always wanted one of these locos when I began modelling the Cambrian a good 10 years ago, and honestly never thought we would be offered one ready to run. On its own, the tender looks like a fantastic model - is it a Churchward or a Collett 3500 gallon? Either way, would it be suitable to slot behind a retooled Manor loco, or even behind the current 2251 perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The two Churchward 3500g tenders behind Bachmann's Dukedog are the flush-sided one behind 9017 and the riveted one behind 9022, the latter being more typical for a Manor or a 2251. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Any news on when these are hitting the shops? I thought they had a good review in model rail this month! Regards Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Hi No nothing as yet, i have two on pre-order and no news. Can not wait for this loco to come out!. The detail on the front bogie looks amazing, and well look even better once it's weathered up a bit!. Edited December 31, 2013 by darren01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ady77014 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 When I rang up the model shop I ordered mine from concerning my debit card due to expire soon, I was told middle of January for Dukedog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) I've painted quite a lot of 4mm scale outside crank GW locos over the years and the utmost care was always needed with the chassis. In those days the outside cranks were threaded onto Romford extended axles and then locked in position with Araldited or solder. This was never enough and they could easily slip their quartering, so some folk threaded a nut onto the axle before threading on the crank and this provided a solid fixing especially when soldered. However, another problem was the amount of slack in the coupling rod holes if the builder was a slap-happy-chappy. This could lead to mangling! It is often forgotten that when the rtr people mass produce a loco, it's running is often far more fool-proof than on those home-assembled locos of yore. Edited January 1, 2014 by coachmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Rob Kinsey has written an interesting review for us on MRL - https://www.model-railways-live.co.uk/Reviews/234/Bachmann_new_GWR_Earl_Class_inspected_by_Rob_Kinsey/ with photos courtesy of Tony Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2014 Rob Kinsey has written an interesting review for us on MRL - https://www.model-railways-live.co.uk/Reviews/234/Bachmann_new_GWR_Earl_Class_inspected_by_Rob_Kinsey/ with photos courtesy of Tony Wright. Thanks for that review link Andy.I must be behind the times but I hadn't noticed that Bachmann are using that plug in method for connection now or is it just the dcc version using it.I hope it's more user friendly than the Hornby version.It's ages since I bought a 'new' Bachmann tender engine. I do like that black version though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It's about the same as Hornby's method... a right pain, mainly for the DCC and tender pickups so about the same, as the Dukedog has Tender pickups, as did the City, missed them out on the C-Class though.Very much looking forward to them arriving in the coming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandc_au Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I am surprised they are using a 3 pole motor rather than 5! Khris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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