Ozexpatriate Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/TheModelRailwayClub/photos/pb.511444672214688.-2207520000.1475839390./1529592697066542/?type=3&theater Are there descriptions of the three different GWR ones somewhere? (I have such a hard time finding anything about new releases on the Dapol website.) It's hard to make out but does the middle one have the Bristol/London shields? EDIT: I guess the answers are here. White roof,(roundel) No 11. Grey roof (shields) No 8 Dark roof W10 Compared to others, this stuff is hard to find. Edited October 7, 2016 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayern Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Does anybody (including Dapol) have any idea when these will appear, they have now passed the previous waiting for order time, held for many years by Hornbys Tintagel Castle, but at least at the time Simon Kohler was apologetic, nothing from you Dapol bad form in my opinion. Alan Tewson (waiting not so patiently in a Bavarian beer Garden) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Does anybody (including Dapol) have any idea when these will appear, they have now passed the previous waiting for order time, held for many years by Hornbys Tintagel Castle, but at least at the time Simon Kohler was apologetic, nothing from you Dapol bad form in my opinion. Alan Tewson (waiting not so patiently in a Bavarian beer Garden) Join the real world queue......it is the accepted system, which some modellers say we should be grateful for...it appears the Chinese do us favours in some way in making the items...basically they have us over a barrel, and the makers voted for it just to save paying for factories in the UK. It's small batch production runs, as and when they get around to production, a rush of supplies, which dry up and then are unavailable along with poorer spares. Dapol are a nice company, but do tend to have a blind spot to communication or running a decent web site.....and all said and done if they reported the progress of the Chinese on week by week basis, it would rival watching paint dry.... Stephen 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I don't think Dapol are much worse than the others on announcement fronts, there just hasn't been much to announce on this since the EP was displayed at Ally Pally. They had their open day a few weeks ago but the painted samples have not arrived yet so not much to report. Dapol don't seem to have much of a presence on RMWeb anymore, preferring to make their announcements on their own digest site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayern Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Join the real world queue......it is the accepted system, which some modellers say we should be grateful for...it appears the Chinese do us favours in some way in making the items...basically they have us over a barrel, and the makers voted for it just to save paying for factories in the UK. It's small batch production runs, as and when they get around to production, a rush of supplies, which dry up and then are unavailable along with poorer spares. Dapol are a nice company, but do tend to have a blind spot to communication or running a decent web site.....and all said and done if they reported the progress of the Chinese on week by week basis, it would rival watching paint dry.... Stephen it would be nice if they could report the progress of the Chinese on a year to year basis, let alone week to week. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 just received notice of a revised price for this on my pre-order, now apparently £145 (or £123 with the store discount) Rovex - or "Penniless of Redditch" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2016 I don't think Dapol are much worse than the others on announcement fronts, there just hasn't been much to announce on this since the EP was displayed at Ally Pally. They had their open day a few weeks ago but the painted samples have not arrived yet so not much to report. Dapol don't seem to have much of a presence on RMWeb anymore, preferring to make their announcements on their own digest site. I can understand them not wanting to have much presence on RMWeb. But surely a missed opportunity not to have a thread which highlights when their own site has an update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2016 it would be nice if they could report the progress of the Chinese on a year to year basis, let alone week to week. Alan It's easy. Here we do things by Christmas. There they do them by New Year. We just don't know which one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2016 Does anybody (including Dapol) have any idea when these will appear, they have now passed the previous waiting for order time, held for many years by Hornbys Tintagel Castle, but at least at the time Simon Kohler was apologetic, nothing from you Dapol bad form in my opinion. Alan Tewson (waiting not so patiently in a Bavarian beer Garden) I'm surprised he has time to worry about railcars during October in Bavaria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayern Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I'm surprised he has time to worry about railcars during October in Bavaria. Actually although it is called Oktoberfest it is held in September. However beer is available all year so it just helps to ease the wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Forgive my igorance but can someone explain me to me the meaning of 'Twin Cities' in relation to the Dapol model 4D-011-004 Streamlined Railcar 8 in GWR lined chocolate and cream please? Neither me or my friend have ever heard of the phrase 'Twin Cities' being used before... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2016 Forgive my igorance but can someone explain me to me the meaning of 'Twin Cities' in relation to the Dapol model 4D-011-004 Streamlined Railcar 8 in GWR lined chocolate and cream please? Neither me or my friend have ever heard of the phrase 'Twin Cities' being used before... It might mean the crest of the GWR featuring London and Bristol. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It might mean the crest of the GWR featuring London and Bristol. Yes, this was the Coat of Arms which replaced the earlier "Shirtbutton" emblem from 1942 onwards. It was also used from 1928-1934 but this was before most Railcars were introduced (although it was carried by Railcar 1 when first delivered). http://www.gwr.org.uk/liveriescoat.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) From Warley today in their cabinet. Is it just me or do the colours of the blood n custard look a bit garish? (More than usual for that livery!). Apols for pic quality - it was a bit cramped on their stall and was backing on the the black label stuff David Edited November 26, 2016 by Clearwater 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 something doesnt look quite right with the brown on the chocolate and cream one either, though it is harder to tell from a photo. its no where near rich enough. (but not nearly as bad as the BR unit!) Hopefully as they are preproduction samples it should be fixed, but then this is Dapol and they dont exactly have a record for getting colours right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I wasn't horrified by the chocolate when I saw them but I may have been distracted by the sheer direness of the br one! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I suggest someone tomorrow has a chat with either Andy or Neil (or Richard if he is on the stand) about the shades. They are the people who can do something about it. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 If I were them I wouldn't even have put the BR one in the display case. I certainly won't be pre-ordering and unless it is drastically improved I won't be buying either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Having just returned from the show yesterday, the lighting was far from ideal to be making critical decisions about accuracy. Mike Wiltshire 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 Having just returned from the show yesterday, the lighting was far from ideal to be making critical decisions about accuracy. Mike Wiltshire Well the coaches on the other side of the stand were ok so blaming the lights for the garish colour doesn't explain it as it was identical lighting. I had a close look and both looked wrong colour wise, as above I'd want to see a final colour sample before ordering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 From Warley today in their cabinet. Is it just me or do the colours of the blood n custard look a bit garish? (More than usual for that livery!). Apols for pic quality - it was a bit cramped on their stall and was backing on the the black label stuff Davidimage.jpeg I had a chat with Joel about these. All three livery samples were rejected and are being re-done. Everyone who ASKED was told that. Les It seems they were on the stand because these are the only liveried prototypes available. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 It would have made sense to put a note in the cabinet when they were so busy not everyone could talk to them, I'd already battled through once so decided to wait to see the press rather than join the queue again Glad to hear it thanks and I'll look forward to the final samples as I said above as I do fancy one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 I had a chat with Joel about these. All three livery samples were rejected and are being re-done. Everyone who ASKED was told that. Les It seems they were on the stand because these are the only liveried prototypes available. If they had been rejected all the more reason not to display them. As far as asking is concerned it's a bit difficult when you are 100+ miles away. Then you have to rely on what gets posted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandc_au Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 If they had been rejected all the more reason not to display them. No, not necessarily. People would still want to see that model. You only have to look at the Dean Goods thread to see all the comments on what is right/wrong with the model, without talking about the colour scheme! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Isn't it a good idea to say what is wrong with the colours, rather than just saying they are awful? In fact, to my eye the carmine on the blood and custard one looked pretty good but the cream is too dark. There's at least one Colour-Rail slide that shows just how garish an ex-works car in this livery was. (CJL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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