RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 8, 2015 Barabel has arrived yay. Another nice Sentinel from Hornby with a new chassis to represent the wider footplate, shorter wheelbase and different buffer beams of the of the side rod version. All present and correct and no damage. Stuttered little bit at low speed the first couple of laps but then settled down to be able to do a nice crawl with those lovely coupling rods swinging round, after half an hour the haulage capacity has improved. Nice to have an industrial livery which is easy to place in any location without a major identity change, just add etched name plates if necessary although I'll have to lose those wasp stripes down the side. Damn, I succumbed to placing an order for one. Now where do I find etched plates for industrial diesels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Wow! It really does look superb indeed! Can't wait to pick my one up! A few quick questions though. Is this classed as the 40 Ton 0-4-0, With the 8 cylinder engine? And two, with is the cylindrical item in front of the cab, left side. If you looking out the cab that is? Compressor or something like that? Sorry if it's a bit of a silly question... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Now where do I find etched plates for industrial diesels? Narrow Planet, you can then have what name and type you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Wow! It really does look superb indeed! Can't wait to pick my one up! A few quick questions though. Is this classed as the 40 Ton 0-4-0, With the 8 cylinder engine? And two, with is the cylindrical item in front of the cab, left side. If you looking out the cab that is? Compressor or something like that? Sorry if it's a bit of a silly question... Yes it is the 40 ton with the C8 SFL 325 BHP engine. The cylinder in front of the cab is the engine air filter intake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Yes it is the 40 ton with the C8 SFL 325 BHP engine. The cylinder in front of the cab is the engine air filter intake. Thanks for the info. This will come in handy in due course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Hey,Please try to avoid duplicating a topic. A lovely long topic on the Hornby Sentinel already exists. Would be lovely if you could just post there itself?http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/65710-Hornby-sentinel-at-last/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Like he said, it's a new version. It's got rods, so is more likely to be acceptable to steam lovers. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Catweasel, Is Barabel the same wheel base as the earlier Hornby Sentinel? Gordon A Bristol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yes, it's the same wheelbase. I've now got mine apart ready for chipping. It'll be hardwired with a Digitrax from Coastal DCC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yes, it's the same wheelbase. Are you sure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Sorry. I must admit I didn't think to physically check. Smacked wrist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 10, 2015 Are you sure? The wheels on the new one look a tad bigger in your photo, or is it just the camera angle? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The wheels on the new one look a tad bigger in your photo, or is it just the camera angle? John Yes they are. Hornby have replicated the 3' 6" wheels of the rod version as opposed to 3' 2" of the chain drive. In fact they have done a excellent job with the differences between these models. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Hey, Please try to avoid duplicating a topic. A lovely long topic on the Hornby Sentinel already exists. Would be lovely if you could just post there itself? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/65710-Hornby-sentinel-at-last/ They're equal in page length so it doesn't really matter. Back on topic, I'd really rather like one, if I'd realised the rod version was coming when I bought the original I'd have waited but I'm really pleased with the one I already have. Just gotta do more saving I guess. I think I'd repaint the side wasp stripes black and rename but keep the maroon unlike my chain drove which got a full repaint 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 http://www.nvr.org.uk/oxfordshire-ironstone-company I thought this may be interesting reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted September 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2015 Yes they are. Hornby have replicated the 3' 6" wheels of the rod version as opposed to 3' 2" of the chain drive. In fact they have done a excellent job with the differences between these models. I was impressed when the first Sentinels came out at how low the price was considering that work that must have gone into it, and the fact that Hornby must have been a bit unsure how well it would sell. (I don't think it was exactly at the top of most people's wish lists). I'm even more impressed that they went to the effort of a new chassis for such a small different in wheelbase, which can only be seen if you put the two chassis together. Perhaps someone at Hornby really likes Sentinels? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Hey, Please try to avoid duplicating a topic. A lovely long topic on the Hornby Sentinel already exists. Would be lovely if you could just post there itself? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/65710-Hornby-sentinel-at-last/ They're equal in page length so it doesn't really matter. Back on topic, I'd really rather like one, if I'd realised the rod version was coming when I bought the original I'd have waited but I'm really pleased with the one I already have. Just gotta do more saving I guess. I think I'd repaint the side wasp stripes black and rename but keep the maroon unlike my chain drove which got a full repaint They are equal in length, because it's the same topic. With the release of the Rod Driven Version, the title has been updated to reflect this. Hope this clears matters up. Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I bought a barabel, the first one in a non-descript livery. Excellent loco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted September 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2015 The wheels on the new one look a tad bigger in your photo, or is it just the camera angle? John Yes they are. Hornby have replicated the 3' 6" wheels of the rod version as opposed to 3' 2" of the chain drive. In fact they have done a excellent job with the differences between these models. So there we have it, a tad = 4 inches , or 1mm in OO scale. I'm off to find my coat. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Seems like most places now have them in stock, still no arrival at my local model shop though. Guess I won't see it until next week then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The authentic livery of the Oxfordshire Ironstone Sentinels is shown above. There were detail differences between different members of the fleet, including different profile cranks. A total of 5 are preserved. Paul A. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The rod drive Sentinel undressed. Plenty of room for the Digitrax DZ126 chip I've got for her. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweasel Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I've just disected "Barabel" for fitting the chip. Unlike my earlier one, I removed the motor so as to take out the cap. By doing it this way, all the Hornby wiring can be removed. The black wire to the L/H pickup is tight for getting the iron in,but,with care, it can be done. I'm using a 25 watt Antex with a small bit.Another thing I found was that the motor wires had huge lumps of solder holding them on and the metal front motor mount is very close to the brushes,with a risk of shorting. In order to give me more clearance I'm going to slim the mount down tomorrow. DCC chips don't like shorts. One tip that may be useful when undoing and replacing the tiny screws is to either stroke the screwdriver on the motor can or put a small rare earth magnet on the end of the screwdriver. Either method means that Isaac Newton's law doesn't work. And we all know that small screws like the floor don't we. Edited September 11, 2015 by Catweasel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted September 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2015 I have a motorised Knightwing 0-6-0 version. Its a none-runner at the moment as the plastic outside cranks are split, resulting in the (etched) crank rods going out of alignment. Looking at the illustrations it looks as if the Hornby cranks can be used. I hope that they will become available as spares with or without wheels and axles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 11, 2015 I have a motorised Knightwing 0-6-0 version. Its a none-runner at the moment as the plastic outside cranks are split, resulting in the (etched) crank rods going out of alignment. Looking at the illustrations it looks as if the Hornby cranks can be used. I hope that they will become available as spares with or without wheels and axles. Or you could buy a Judith Edge kit........... Here's one I prepared earlier Cheers, Mick 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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