David Bigcheeseplant Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I think the tank is black rather than just dirty as the splasher sides are clearly green, but why has the left hand tank got the upturned type of step, I would have thought it unlikely to change a step so I expect the whole of the left hand tank was changed too, its a pity we can't see the other side, so were both tanks changed and if so could it be that when the new top feed boiler was put on it was a simpler job to swap the tanks too from tanks that had been fitted to a top feed boiler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) I have just noticed another detail the handrail on the side tank on photos with no top feed version has a kink where the pipe to the top feed should go by the cab, so this seems to fit that 6403 was fitted with a top feed but when a non top feed boiler was fitted the tanks remained the same as they still had the kinked handrails. Edited January 26, 2014 by David Bigcheeseplant 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 At Expo EM yesterday Chris Gibbon at High level kits said he is quite advanced on a etched chassis for the Bachman 64XX although it will capable to be built for a 54XX and 74XX, apparently the brake hanger brackets are different on the 74XX and he is looking for a drawing. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted May 18, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the info. Is it just me or has the High Level website been down for quite a long time now? Edited May 18, 2014 by Mikkel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 When Chris returns from Expo, information on 64xx and 54xx brake hangar brackets is awaiting him in his inbox. The 74xx pattern was slightly different, and will be sent soon. The chassis project is somewhat speculative at the moment, because no one knows whether it will fit the Bachmann body! (Wheel clearances for the 5'2" 54xx will be 'interesting'.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Having read through the last few pages of this thread, I'm amazed than any manufacturer even tries to make RTR models, given that it seems hardly any two engines in the same class were identical, and details on the same loco changed from year to year. Luckily, it also appears that I'm ignorant enough to not notice all but the most glaring errors, so I can enjoy my purchases, so long as I don't read RMweb too much! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 ...The chassis project is somewhat speculative at the moment, because no one knows whether it will fit the Bachmann body! (Wheel clearances for the 5'2" 54xx will be 'interesting'.) If experience with the 3F and 4F is anything to go by, the 64XX splashers will be about the right size for a 54XX Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi i hope they get the cab side numbers right as all of the class had cast iron side number plates not brass ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi i hope they get the cab side numbers right as all of the class had cast iron side number plates not brass ones. But from a visual perspective, surely that won't be relevant for printed cabside numbers on the model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Printed or otherwise, the colour of an iron plate is different from the colour of a brass plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) Printed or otherwise, the colour of an iron plate is different from the colour of a brass plate. Sorry, not what I meant. Was thinking in tongues about etched plates - after market suppliers using (or not) iron instead of brass to ensure a colour match - not that the numerals and the outer edge on printed plates should be a different colour. Edited June 2, 2014 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 At Expo EM yesterday Chris Gibbon at High level kits said he is quite advanced on a etched chassis for the Bachman 64XX although it will capable to be built for a 54XX and 74XX, apparently the brake hanger brackets are different on the 74XX and he is looking for a drawing. David He did say at RailEx that it couldn't really progress any further until such time as Bachmann release their model. I do hope the chassis can also be made to fit under the old Westward whitemetal body! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 And the Stephen Poole! I can build it as a 54xx at last. Mike Wiltshire 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) According to todays Kernow newsletter,Bachmann have advised they're doing new running numbers for these.Can anyone hazard a guess on why the change please. 31-365 6406 [GWR green] 31-636 6417 [Early emblem BR black] 31-637 6412 [Lined green late crest.] Edited June 6, 2014 by gwrrob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted June 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2014 Great news re high level, Any idea which of the 3 numbers quoted by Kernow Models is the gw liveried release, with a chassis in development I think I will certainly be pre ordering for the 54xx I require... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted June 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 6, 2014 Any news about when the 64xx will be released? - Soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) According to todays Kernow newsletter,Bachmann have advised they're doing new running numbers for these.Can anyone hazard a guess on why the change please. 31-365 6406 [GWR green] 31-636 6417 [Early emblem BR black] 31-637 6412 [Lined green late crest.] The BR (WR)Welsh Mafia at Bachmann ? The GWR green version looks fit for purpose in the West Country though, as it seems to have been based at Laira from 1932-60. Of the BR versions 6412 (lined green) appears to be Welsh, as does 6417 (black) from October 1953 but hardly the end of civilisation as we know it. Edited June 6, 2014 by cary hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2014 Excellent - two Welsh ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Printed or otherwise, the colour of an iron plate is different from the colour of a brass plate. IIRC the cast iron ones had the numbers picked out in cream. There was an article about iron vs. cast plates in GWRJ but the issue concerned is in my loft storage at the moment. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 6, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 6, 2014 IIRC the cast iron ones had the numbers picked out in cream. There was an article about iron vs. cast plates in GWRJ but the issue concerned is in my loft storage at the moment. Adrian A very yellow cream on some (most?) of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 A very yellow cream on some (most?) of them That sounds right. I got my journals mixed up it was by Gerry Beale in MRJ. Issue 216. Still one in the loft though. Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 According to todays Kernow newsletter,Bachmann have advised they're doing new running numbers for these.Can anyone hazard a guess on why the change please. 31-365 6406 [GWR green] 31-636 6417 [Early emblem BR black] 31-637 6412 [Lined green late crest.] Strange. Bachmann's tank front steps are for 6410 onward, so that legitimises 6412 and 6417, but not 6406. Bachmann's inclusion of the footplate-mounted lubricator legitimises 6406, but not 6412. (6417 unknown in that respect.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Bachmann's revised running numbers would seem to indicate the production slot is now booked. The brake hanger differences for the High Level 54/64/74xx chassis have been resolved, and the chassis kit is now ready to appear when the Bachmann model is released. Chris Gibbon is confident about the usability of 5'2" 54xx wheels under Bachmann's overlarge 64xx splashers, but have your scrapers ready just in case. Depending on etch real estate, Chris might include some bespoke 64xx splashers in the kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2014 The BR (WR)Welsh Mafia at Bachmann ? The GWR green version looks fit for purpose in the West Country though, as it seems to have been based at Laira from 1932-60. Of the BR versions 6412 (lined green) appears to be Welsh, as does 6417 (black) from October 1953 but hardly the end of civilisation as we know it. Merl retired last Christmas.....a nation stands acquitted.Had my hands on a sample last month.Delicious .Were any of this trio either Abercynon or 86J up to 1958 ,I wonder? I would love to recreate the Aberdare-Abercynon auto train of my schooldays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 7, 2014 Merl retired last Christmas.....a nation stands acquitted.Had my hands on a sample last month.Delicious .Were any of this trio either Abercynon or 86J up to 1958 ,I wonder? I would love to recreate the Aberdare-Abercynon auto train of my schooldays. 6417 spent some time at Aberdare Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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