Level crossing stupidity...

[PhilJ W]

Causing death by careless or dangerous driving should mean automatic loss of licence for good.

[KingEdwardII]

8 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

were massacred by the Luftwaffe

True, but the decision not to repair them was made by the local authorities.

 

I also remember the destruction of the electric trolley bus system in Cardiff - and that was in 1970 having been first established during WWII.

 

Yours, Mike.

[kevinlms]

9 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

Causing death by careless or dangerous driving should mean automatic loss of licence for good.

But suspending a licence, doesn't always stop them!

[PhilJ W]

36 minutes ago, kevinlms said:

But suspending a licence, doesn't always stop them!

Agreed, there will always be people who will ignore the laws. Hopefully the law in such cases will be rigorously enforced.

[Hobby]

It isn't, they normally just get banned again and told to do community work. If you check your local papers reports of such people is pretty regular, and it's not just the dregs of society that do it either.

[Wickham Green too]

1 hour ago, kevinlms said:

But suspending a licence, doesn't always stop them!

Why should it ? ......... it's not there to be taken away for the next offence !

[Michael Hodgson]

You can only suspend a licence if they've got one in the firsy place.  A lot of the really reckless cases seem to have no licence, no insurance, and the car they're driving is somebody else's anyway (with or without owner's consent).

[Hobby]

Yet they still give them a driving ban (which they then ignore) and points (to be applied if they decide to go all legal and get a license!).

[Michael Hodgson]

3 hours ago, Hobby said:

Yet they still give them a driving ban (which they then ignore) and points (to be applied if they decide to go all legal and get a license!).

If you're banned from driving I don't think they would let you "go straight" and get a licence.

[Hobby]

Yes they can, but they have to serve the ban before being allowed to drive (legally!). It's on the Gov. website.

[phil-b259]

7 hours ago, KingEdwardII said:

True, but the decision not to repair them was made by the local authorities.

 

I also remember the destruction of the electric trolley bus system in Cardiff - and that was in 1970 having been first established during WWII.

 

Yours, Mike.

Its important to understand that in many cases Trolleybuses were only selected in the 1930s because the OHL was not life expired.

 

It could thus be re-purposed for further use by vehicles that were more flexible (they could steer round obstacles) and didn’t need expensive, maintenance heavy rail tracks)

 

However even OLE doesn’t last forever so when it started needed major expenditure it was dumped and more motor busses purchased instead.

Edited August 24, 2022 by phil-b259

[melmerby]

11 minutes ago, phil-b259 said:

Its important to understand that in many cases Trolleybuses were only selected in the 1930s because the OHL was not life expired.

 

 

Birmingham strangely only ever had two routes, the first serving Nechells in 1922 and the second along the Coventry road in 1933.

By the time the decision had be made to convert the Coventry Road tram routes into trollies in 1933 (with some extension to the original tram route), the diesel bus had made it's mark and the trolley was relegated to a minor role.

No further routes were converted and the trolley bus system, of just those two routes, finally closed in 1951, two years before the last trams.

 

The depot for the Nechells route wasn't even accessed by trolley wiring and the trolley bus had to reach it with just one pole up and a skate in the tram track.

 

 

We're now a long way from "level crossing stupidity"😄

 

[meil]

17 hours ago, melmerby said:

Rather OT but on Snapped and Trapped on BBC1 today there was a reckless motorcyclist who when stopped by the police for doing a wheelie on a busy road, sped off at incredible high speeds.

The police gave chase but gave up due to the high speeds.

The biker had obscured his numberplate and was filming from a helmet cam so presumably he could post his exploits on You Tube or such.

He was doing 80+ in a 20mph zone and 111 shortly afterwards.

Unfortunately for him he had already been snapped on a ANPR camera before obscuring his plate and the cops quickly caught up with him at home, complete with his camera footage.

The sentence IIRC was 8 weeks in jail suspended, a driving ban and some unpaid work. All rather lenient I thought.

They should've crushed his bike as well as some proper time in nick.

 

There are moves to make dangerous driving equivalent to murder and careless driving equivalent to manslaughter where a death is caused, not before time IMHO

 

Perhaps some background would be helpful. Originally drivers who killed were charged with manslaughter but juries wouldn't convict them. Death by dangerous driving was therefore introduced to get some conviction.

 

So the same thing might happen again.

 

Be careful what you wish for.

 

Oh and the range Rover was reckoned to have been doing 100mph before it decided it would like to try flying.

Edited August 24, 2022 by meil

[Wickham Green too]

25 minutes ago, meil said:

..... range Rover was reckoned to have been doing 100mph .....

4x4s seem to have forgotten their off-road, muddy field roots somewhat !

[PhilJ W]

11 hours ago, KingEdwardII said:

True, but the decision not to repair them was made by the local authorities.

 

I also remember the destruction of the electric trolley bus system in Cardiff - and that was in 1970 having been first established during WWII.

 

Yours, Mike.

 

3 hours ago, phil-b259 said:

Its important to understand that in many cases Trolleybuses were only selected in the 1930s because the OHL was not life expired.

 

It could thus be re-purposed for further use by vehicles that were more flexible (they could steer round obstacles) and didn’t need expensive, maintenance heavy rail tracks)

 

However even OLE doesn’t last forever so when it started needed major expenditure it was dumped and more motor busses purchased instead.

It wasn't the overhead as in many cases as it had to be replaced anyway, in some cases even the supporting poles had to be replaced (they had to carry twice the weight or more). It was the existing distribution network, underground cables, transformers and sub stations. A lot of that equipment would have been due for replacement during the 1940's but was not done due to the war.

Edited August 24, 2022 by PhilJ W

[Titan]

2 hours ago, Wickham Green too said:

4x4s seem to have forgotten their off-road, muddy field roots somewhat !

 

Range Rovers have been capable of 100mph for over 50 years...

[martin_wynne]

5 minutes ago, Titan said:

 

Range Rovers have been capable of 100mph for over 50 years...

 

That takes them a distance of 43,800,000 miles. 🙂

 

 

 

[boxbrownie]

38 minutes ago, martin_wynne said:

 

That takes them a distance of 43,800,000 miles. 🙂

 

 

 

And a cliff edge…….

[Wickham Green too]

... or was that a 'traditional' Land Rover ?

 

Beachy Head : 6/12/86

[newbryford]

4 hours ago, melmerby said:

 

 

 

We're now a long way from "level crossing stupidity"😄

 

 

Nothing new for this thread then......

[Hobby]

At least it's still in the UK!

[Wickham Green too]

1 hour ago, newbryford said:

Nothing new for this thread then......

..... and let's keep it that way - we don't actually want people to be stupid on level crossings ( however amusing their antics can seem from afar ).

[lmsforever]

Watched the vidio of the Range Rover and you can hardly see it because of the speed  the drivers should be put away for a long time make them suffer.

[melmerby]

5 hours ago, meil said:

 

Oh and the range Rover was reckoned to have been doing 100mph before it decided it would like to try flying.

Only 100mph? At a minimum I would have thought.

Looking at the site it likely cartwheeled after striking the Tesla at the charge point to get enough height to clear the station roof before landing on the tracks

There's some footage from the Tesla security cams and the speed looks incredible:

https://metro.co.uk/video/cctv-footage-shows-range-rover-somersaulting-tesla-centre-park-royal-2755843/?ito=vjs-link

 

 

[Michael Hodgson]

12 hours ago, martin_wynne said:

 

That takes them a distance of 43,800,000 miles. 🙂

 

 

 

Good place for them.