GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The Birdcages are right at the top of my want list too, along side the H & H2 so I'm more prepared to fork out for them over other items, if Rails of Sheffield email me and say I've gotta pay £164 instead of £134 for my Merchant Navy I'll likely cancel that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted January 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2017 ............. Hattons have just sent me a note saying that the recommended retail price is £64.95 per coach and their price is £55.21 which is the lowest any retailer can sell them for. I am not sure whether there is much point in pre-ordering models. I did not pre-order the Hornby ex LSWR coaches but I still obtained them at the same price. Although I understand why you are saying that, there may be some dangers in not pre-ordering. Firstly, if a model is particularly popular on release, you may miss the opportunity to get one. The original SECR C Class sold out in under two weeks at any store I could find, and the later simplified livery one sold out within 3 weeks at most stores. I could see the SECR livery bird cage coaches going the same way if the production run is relatively short. And if a model comes out just as you have gone on holiday, you computer crashes irreparably or you have gone into hospital....... Well you could well miss out. Secondly, if enough people decide there is no point in pre-ordering then the manufacturer may have a false view on demand. He may reduce the number of models being made (and then see the first point coming into force) or may even decide there is not sufficient demand to warrant make the model at all and so withdraws it. Pre-ordering seems to carry no risks. You don't pay until the model is available for dispatch. You can cancel if prices rise during the wait for release. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venator Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 But I've already got over a dozen Pullmans with lights and, whilst the table lamps are very nice and visible in daylight, it wouldn't bother me if they didn't work. I never intend to run a night-time scenario, so having lights in anything else represents (for me) a pointless gimmick that I don't want and wouldn't pay for. John Point taken, however my point is that one can justify that price if they have additional features such as lights and passengers installed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Do we know if the SR ones are going to be in lined or unlined olive? (assuming they wore both) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Very informative information on this site, know it some years , it changed a bit since i visit a few years ago, but there's more added since. For who is interrested in SR trainformations, take a look on this site www.maltoni.co.uk/formations.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Do we know if the SR ones are going to be in lined or unlined olive? (assuming they wore both) Lined olive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Lined olive. Thanks, I was rather hoping for unlined to match all the other carriages on the layout, but it doesn't really matter. Not that I can find any writing anywhere that suggests they ever appeared unlined before going malachite... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Here some trainformations including birdcage set 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Here are a few more, hope this is of any help. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 That is useful If Bachmann could do a LBSC 3 set next, that'd be great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 That is useful If Bachmann could do a LBSC 3 set next, that'd be great! Could we wait that long? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Well, at the tender age of 25, unless the universe strikes me down, I've got time, I can wait. I only stuck the Birdcage carriages on preorder in November so the wait doesn't seem quite so long to me haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Well, at the tender age of 25, unless the universe strikes me down, I've got time, I can wait. I only stuck the Birdcage carriages on preorder in November so the wait doesn't seem quite so long to me haha. I was only 25 when I ordered the Birdcages. Must go, got to collect my pension. Edited January 16, 2017 by Fireline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Jones Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Well, at the tender age of 25, unless the universe strikes me down, I've got time, I can wait. I only stuck the Birdcage carriages on preorder in November so the wait doesn't seem quite so long to me haha. The Bachmanns will most probably still arrive well in advance of me building my Mallard 3 coach set that was bought in the last century and will definitely have a better paint finish than I can achieve!(but no conflict anyway as they are different coaches....) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 That's what puts me off kits, I've always been alright building model planes, but my painting skills aren't quite up to standard compared to factory finish, anything I made myself would look really naff running along side rtr. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 At a RRP now of £64.95 I am expecting something exceptionally exquisite. Out of idle curiosity, how come these are now a full £20 more expensive than the Hornby ex-LSWR stock? Hornby's offering looks jst as exquisite to my untutored eyes. I understand the economics behind higher rrp on the inspection saloons and autocoaches because sales volumes will be lower, but should that apply to coaches which most will buy by the set load? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Out of idle curiosity, how come these are now a full £20 more expensive than the Hornby ex-LSWR stock? Hornby's offering looks jst as exquisite to my untutored eyes. I understand the economics behind higher rrp on the inspection saloons and autocoaches because sales volumes will be lower, but should that apply to coaches which most will buy by the set load? Possibly the Bachmann coaches have refinements that the Hornby ex-LSWR stock do not, like wheels that go round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 They will be exquisite, and worth the wait, promise ! !. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium SR Chris Posted January 20, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2017 And they'll have proper lamp irons that I can hang my tail lamps on. I'm currently working my way through my Hornby ex-LSWR coaches carving off the solid moulded ones from the underframe and fitting 'proper' ones fashioned from staples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) They do sound like they'll be worth the price tag, and unless you're a collector of all liveries, you should only need 3 I noticed Hattons email said something like "this is the lowest price retailers can sell at" but they so far seem to be the only retailer that have raised their prices... Edited January 21, 2017 by GreenGiraffe22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 They do sound lilentheyll be worth the price tag, and unless you're a collector of all liveries, you should only need 3 I noticed Hattons email said something like "this is the lowest price retailers can sell at" but they so far seem to be the only retailer that have raised their prices... Or a train of 2 3-sets, i.e. 6! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Or a train of 2 3-sets, i.e. 6! I suppose, but then you have the hassle of renumbering, which is fine if you have those skills, I do not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Possibly the Bachmann coaches have refinements that the Hornby ex-LSWR stock do not, like wheels that go round. I thought you were joking ... then I read the ex-LSWR thread!! ... still, they are also £20 more than the colletts, hawksworths, maunsells and Bachmann Mk.1s ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Are any of the Birdcage coaches that Bachmann will one day produce the types that ran on the Longmoor Military Railway, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2017 I was only 25 when I ordered the Birdcages. Must go, got to collect my pension. It was my dad who asked about more rtr buffet cars, I've passed on the story to my children. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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