RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) This is my Father in Law's photo (taken on a box brownie apparently!) of 32469 on Horsham shed probably 1959: I am beginning to think that the funnel is slightly different to that on Bachmann's 32500 (possibly hence the change of number just before production commenced perhaps?) but near identical to 32470? I seem to have walked into a renumbering minefield of little detail variations.... Edited April 3, 2015 by John M Upton 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Was going to include my own short review.. although a little late as it was going to be on my post on the other page... Word of warning if anyone is going to put crew in the cab, be careful when removing the cab...luckily nothing fell off but but it's not an easy job to put it back on.(Ignore the bigger than normal Bulleid on the end of the clip, may post that up one day) Edited April 4, 2015 by Bluebell Model Railway 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 How's about showing us the underside, how the coupler pockets are mounted and how much play the rear axle has? The underside is illustrated in the current Model Rail review of the E4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Was going to include my own short review.. although a little late as it was going to be on my post on the other page... Word of warning if anyone is going to put crew in the cab, be careful when removing the cab...luckily nothing fell off but but it's not an easy job to put it back on. (Ignore the bigger than normal Bulleid on the end of the clip, may post that up one day) Nice video Matt. Out of interest, what is the middle carriage of your Maunsell set? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Nice video Matt. Out of interest, what is the middle carriage of your Maunsell set? It's an Ian Kirk Maunsell Dining Saloon / Kitchen Buffet was built on a spare Hornby Maunsell coach chassis / body, cut the sides out, modify the roof, and put the new sides in, pretty straight forward, did write about it for BRM no idea when that is due. Hope that answers your question Chris 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Some screen shots of the BR Lined Late version from my recent review. Hope these are of help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jcGZSZ4rWg Edited April 4, 2015 by SDJR7F88 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I bought a Southern E4 at the Swanage Station shop on Thursday. The shop had about 9 E4s: three of each type released to date and they sold out today. Although they never appeared on the Swanage Railway I have fond memories of being hauled by Birch Grove in the early days of the Bluebell Railway. Strictly speaking it cannot represent a future visit of the preserved locomotive on the Swanage Railway as there seem to be detail differences which make it a model of the locomotive as it was in the 1920s. Before the gremlins set in on my Corfe Viaduct layout at the Stables at Godlingston Manor, Swanage that caused all the Chinese built model steam engines to derail the E4 ran very well. It stayed on the track when I ran it for over 30 minutes both ways and easily coped with four Hornby Maunsell coaches and a pull-push set. My layout has second radius points and third radius curves and there are four baseboard joints that are slightly out of alignment as the floor has warped badly. Perhaps it is asking too much to expect a modern locomotive to perform faultlessly in those conditions. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Some screen shots of the BR Lined Late version from my recent review. Hope these are of help. Thanks but did you take any of the other side? Edited April 4, 2015 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Thanks but did you take any of the other side? Sadly not. Again a flaw in my review :scratchhead:Though it is very much the same, with-out the cab side pump though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Some screen shots of the BR Lined Late version from my recent review. Hope these are of help. Have to say, you once again did another good review mate. Definitely tempting to get on myself for my layout. Love how it comes with the head code disks for the different routes it worked on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Note the 'Ashford' smokebox door on the early crest version.. Is that from Bachmann's C class? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5, 2015 I am struggling to find a picture of any E4 in plain black with early crest as produced by Bachmann. All the pictures I have found have been lined black with either late or early crests plus a few which are lined but so filthy that the lining is almost invisible that it could be mistaken for plain black. Were there really any plain black E4's as depicted? Personally I favour buying a late crest lined one and backdating the crest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I think there must have been for Bachmann to have done the model. They are pretty good at rooting out appropriate photos to support livery options. Indeed, they are very good at finding elusive shots such as the photo on page 41 of the Winter BCC magazine that shows a Conflat A with TOPS code FAV which until seeing that picture I had always been led to believe by others that no Conflat A survived long enough to carry this code painted on them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I am struggling to find a picture of any E4 in plain black with early crest as produced by Bachmann. All the pictures I have found have been lined black with either late or early crests plus a few which are lined but so filthy that the lining is almost invisible that it could be mistaken for plain black. Were there really any plain black E4's as depicted? Personally I favour buying a late crest lined one and backdating the crest. 32517 on the Southern E-group web site looks to be unlined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 My BR lined black 32500 arrived today, just as I was going out! Once I got home, I opened the box and placed it on the rolling road on DC power and ran it for a good 45 minutes in each direction. Running was as smooth as silk and it exhibited absolutely no wobbles at all; it was so steady that the only indication that it was running was the motor noise and the wheels turning (from above, where one could not see the wheels turning, it looked just like a static model).After running in, I took out the three screws indicated on the diagram and the body came off very easily. I fitted a CT Electronik DCX75 6-pin decoder, a brand and type I have never used previously, and tried to set the address on the programming track ... no dice! I had inserted the decoder upside down! Once I had corrected that, it read properly and I was able to set the address, plus my usual inertia / momentum settings (CV3 = 20, CV4 = 15, usually adjusted slightly after testing, until I am happy with the behaviour).I also found that I had to tweak CV2 (starting voltage) to a value of 6, altered from the default of 3. I expect things to just start moving on speed step 1. This may be revised downwards later as the mechanism frees up a little more.Finally, I tweaked the pickups on the backs of the driving wheels as a couple of them weren't touching when the axles were on full deflection.I tested the locomotive both backwards and forwards through a crossover and there were no problems with the trailing wheels derailing or causing any of the problems a couple of other people have reported here. I haven't tried it with a load, yet. I'll do that in the next few days and take a few photos. Overall, I'm very pleased with it and think Bachmann have produced a real winner here.Now I'm just awaiting the arrival of the LBSCR version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Marshall Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I am struggling to find a picture of any E4 in plain black with early crest as produced by Bachmann. All the pictures I have found have been lined black with either late or early crests plus a few which are lined but so filthy that the lining is almost invisible that it could be mistaken for plain black. Were there really any plain black E4's as depicted? Personally I favour buying a late crest lined one and backdating the crest. A quick look at the Colour Rail website shows 32468/79/87/92/93/94/97/98/500/506/08/10/15/18/57/66/77 with early crest and lined. 32497 is shown in plain black, but lettered BRITISH RAILWAYS. The pics are copyright, so can't put on here, but you can browse the thumbnails before buying the ones you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 The BR Lined version of the E4 arrived today - It is quite the wee marvel! Having converted to 7mm it meant hastily laying out some new narrower track to accommodate it... (also the 2 HAL which has not had a serious outing since it arrived last year).... It ran perfectly right out of the box. It is a superb model in every aspect. The next thing, in the absence of the birdcage stock, will be to mate it up with Hornby's maunsell push-pull set pro-tem... Also... Its so good that the Southern version has now become a serious contender... (Who needs an APT anyway?) The problem now is how to design the 7mm layout in such a way as it can incorporate the 00? Perhaps an elevated track as a part of the back-scene might do the trick? Whatever happens its going to be a fascinating and creative year.... Seriously - if anyone is holding back on getting an E4 it is something you might well regret if left too late.. It's Bachmann's design team at the top of their game... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Postie just knocked, brown Bachmann carton with '35-076, Qty 4' handed to me postmarked Sheffield Park. Will my model be worth more to collectors if I keep it in an original shipping carton? Days spent working from home can be tough, especially with a loco sitting unopened....! must not procrastinate.... Edited April 9, 2015 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lee Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Have been playing with my new toy intermittently since Monday (when it arrived). At first, it was derailing intermittently when going from toe to heel backwards along the curved path of one of the points. It seems to be a bit better now, although I have made a note of 34theletterbetweenBandD's suggestions for curing it. I have to put my hand up to not being a perfect track-layer. Edit: Added "backwards" in second sentence. Edited April 9, 2015 by Richard Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2015 Mine is now renumbered (pic to follow tomorrow all being well) and I must say I do like those head code disks supplied as an add on part. Bachmann would do quite a bit of trade from me if they were to sell those separately. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2015 Now off my workbench and in service (all be it currently minus any crew on the footplate as I have temporarily run out!!) renumbered and with some proper coal in the bunker. Those head code disks are wonderful! 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2015 Now off my workbench and in service (all be it currently minus any crew on the footplate as I have temporarily run out!!) renumbered and with some proper coal in the bunker. Those head code disks are wonderful! E4-1.jpg E4-2.jpg Lovely. Presumably the green Mk1s are the latest Hornby versions with lighting. Did the factory applied coach set number come off easily and whose transfers did you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted April 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2015 They came off reasonably easily although I have yet to remove the crests that really shouldn't be there. The replacement numbers for both coach and set numbers are Replica Railway rub down ones. I intend to modify the lighting strip in the BSK's at some point to get that end compartment illuminated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) I am struggling to find a picture of any E4 in plain black with early crest as produced by Bachmann. All the pictures I have found have been lined black with either late or early crests plus a few which are lined but so filthy that the lining is almost invisible that it could be mistaken for plain black. Were there really any plain black E4's as depicted? Personally I favour buying a late crest lined one and backdating the crest. 32477 was plain black with early crest, see http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p759558576/h15affe67#h15affe67there is also a pic of one fully lined with NO crest/emblem at all http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p759558576/h5297b31#h5297b31 Cheers Tony Edited to hopefully make the links work Edited April 15, 2015 by Rail-Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted April 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 15, 2015 32477 was plain black with early crest, see http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p759558576/h15affe67#h15affe67there is also a pic of one fully lined with NO crest/emblem at all http://www.zenfolio.com/railonline/e/p759558576 Cheers Tony 32477 is actually an E4X class locomotive - an E4 rebuilt with a larger boiler. However there's a picture of 32517 on this page in plain black with early crest. http://www.semgonline.com/steam/e4class_01.html The link to zenfolio requires a username and password. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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