micklner Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Twenty plus sitting on a shelf at Smiffs Bluewaters with the same amount of U Boat 1st issue , not exactly much of a take up at 50p a pop. Two GBL Compounds too if anyone wants any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcltel Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I too don't understand how cellulose thinners can etch brass. I am a retired chemist and can see no reason how this could happen; on the other hand I would caution against soaking brass in caustic alkalis. There is a phenomenon called de-zincification which can occur with brass in alkaline solutions and even, over a time, in very soft water, which tends to have a higher pH than hard water. Under the microscope the surface appears to be like a Swiss cheese with holes where the zinc has dissolved leaving only the copper lattice holding the component together. I know from cleaning caked on castor oil from model aero engines that it pays to be cautious in your choice of cleansing product to avoid pitting. Aluminium, like zinc, is amphoteric and can dissolve in both acids and alkalis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted August 31, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2014 I too don't understand how cellulose thinners can etch brass.I can only assume the thinners wasn't entirely thinners or the brass isn't entirely brass. Probably the thinners as now I come to think of it the stuff has a tint to it. It was a tin of stuff from the model shop left over from when I did a tissue & dope aeroplane. Anyway Nitromors & wire wool did the trick although I was really hoping to just be able to soak the stuff off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 31, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2014 I can only assume the thinners wasn't entirely thinners or the brass isn't entirely brass. Probably the thinners as now I come to think of it the stuff has a tint to it. It was a tin of stuff from the model shop left over from when I did a tissue & dope aeroplane. Anyway Nitromors & wire wool did the trick although I was really hoping to just be able to soak the stuff off. I left the brass fret test piece in the thinners for nearly 48 hours in the end and the only marks were slight discolouration from some residue that was in the glass dish I was using! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfmouf Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Hi, Garryflex block removed the varnish coating & I suspect many more abrasives would, but my concern is the depth of the etched grooves on the cab (this i issue 1 dont forget ) for folding unless scored or worked on were not deep enough to merely bend into shape caused distortion of the cab windows, unless you have small bending gear which most gluers/starters of this type kit (beginners) wont have or want the further expense of buying & these tools are not recommended in the first issue, however if you guys same as me I prefer to buy quality washout plugs & the first issue is worth 50p just for them ! Also for your attention I personally dont like the idea of sticking parts together with superglue only solder. & im also miffed that as bieng a original subscriber that showed the body as whitemetal has now migrated to plastic ! ALF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 vs £819.60 direct from DJH in one lump sum... so you are paying £203.12 for the befefit of buying in parts (or £1.58 an issue) and the magizine. Doesn't seem like a bad deal to me? But the A3 had quite a few short cuts/improvements, delete one option as desired, over the original DJH kit that formed the starting point for the project. You will not know until way down the road what changes will be made. Already there is talk of plastic body parts. I did see some very good models produced with the aid of the part work in the case of the A3. They did require a heck of a lot of extra work to get to that standard. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Would Mallard have to be built as Mallard, or could it be built as another, and without the valances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted September 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2014 Would Mallard have to be built as Mallard, or could it be built as another, and without the valances? I'm hoping not, I want something silver! (Well, the valances can stay for that obviously.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenglade Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Would Mallard have to be built as Mallard, or could it be built as another, and without the valances? if you look at issue 2 in this link you'll notice that the valances are a separate moulding.. should help make life a little easier for anyone wishing to do a conversion.. http://www.buildthemallard.com/collection.html regards Pete Edited September 1, 2014 by greenglade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Twenty plus sitting on a shelf at Smiffs Bluewaters with the same amount of U Boat 1st issue , not exactly much of a take up at 50p a pop. There were at least ten in the box at WHS Ealing last week (which has given it space in preference to GBL), and at least half of these had gone by this afternoon - probably for resale on eBay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Without removing the valences there were 4 A4s that had double chimneys and streamlined non corridor tenders pre war. All others were fitted with double chimneys later, after the valences were removed. Surely somebody makes a suitable single chimney? I've no idea about how easy it would be to remove the valancing. But I can't see it being that big a deal. The following are suitable as the model is intended to be built. 4468 Mallard 4901 Capercaille 4902 Seagull 4903 Peregrine I want one. But I don't think I can justify one. I'll try to pick up the first issue and decide. Regards Jason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steve Purves Posted September 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 1, 2014 Any other of the original subscribers had their bits yet? they said they would send the first 3 issues free but I havent recieved anything yet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenglade Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 not yet Steve...letter said first delivery should be early sept so I guess this week... next delivery consisting issues 2 and 3 will be 28 days after that.... not very good... means subscribers will be many weeks behind general release at least for a month or two, hence why i bought issue 1 already and will probably also buy 2 and 3, will keep the subscribed issues when they arrive as spares. Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR_Blue_1986 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I'm sure the valences could be cut down to make the non valenced versions, that's I fully intened to do, although I will buy a an extra mag or two for them so I have some spare if I go wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Popped up to see my dad today and he had 3 of issue one with him. Looking at the magazine the boiler smoke box and skirts are all in injected moulded plastic. That should make construction a lot easier. I don't need an A4 but I was tempted, although if I did it would be without skirts. The thing is could you effectively remove the skirts and then get hold of what ever bits you need that would be on display underneath ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenglade Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Don't think you'll have much trouble removing the skirts Steve... Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I seen that, but would you then get the cylinder detail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Line Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Any other of the original subscribers had their bits yet? they said they would send the first 3 issues free but I havent recieved anything yet... I've not received mine yet, but have picked up a copy of the first issue and made up the cab assembly using solder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Did I hear the TV advert correct, "was the worlds fastest steam locomotive"? I thought that she IS the worlds fastest steam... Pedant mode off. back on again "original replica features"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralfmouf Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Hi, Had an email from them today promising the first 3 issues free & gifts @ no cost & wonder how many shiny propellers are on ebay , BTW Has anyone had a D/D on there card for £12 odd as I have this week wonder if its them ??? Hatchette. Also they keep going on about registering on there website with the subscription number I have setup the website but even now have never been told by them my subscription number ? will I have to call premium rate number just to find out ????? im getting more miffed by the day about this whole kit ! ALF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 There were a few copies of issue one in our local Asda yesterday. They are still stocking the GBL collection too. Our local newsagents also carried issue one, but have long since ceased stocking GBL. I am not an 0 gauge modeller and I have only ever completed one kit in my life. Considering how dire my attempt at a card building was should I really consider attempting this? I have bought issue one and certainly have the motivation at the moment, whether I have the funds to subscribe is doubtful although I do think that it is cost effective to spread the amount over such a long period of time. I may attempt the cab and see if my motivation remains! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted September 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Also they keep going on about registering on there website with the subscription number I have setup the website but even now have never been told by them my subscription number ? will I have to call premium rate number just to find out ????? When they finally send you issue one there will be a letter with your subscriber number on it. Edited September 4, 2014 by 30801 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Line Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Hi, Had an email from them today promising the first 3 issues free & gifts @ no cost & wonder how many shiny propellers are on ebay , BTW Has anyone had a D/D on there card for £12 odd as I have this week wonder if its them ??? Hatchette. Also they keep going on about registering on there website with the subscription number I have setup the website but even now have never been told by them my subscription number ? will I have to call premium rate number just to find out ????? im getting more miffed by the day about this whole kit ! ALF This may help but according to my letter the 0333 number is charged at local rates (although I haven't yet had to call them to see if this is true). You could email them about your subscription number on buildthemallard@jacklinservice.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) This may help but according to my letter the 0333 number is charged at local rates According to Ofcom the charge is the same as an 01 or 02 number i.e. national rate: "03 numbers – UK-wide geographic numbers Many organisations use 03 numbers as an alternative to more expensive 08 numbers. How much do calls cost? Calls cost no more than calls to geographic numbers (01 or 02) and must be included in inclusive minutes and discount schemes in the same way. Calls from landlines are typically charged up to 9p per minute; calls from mobiles typically cost between 8p and 40p per minute. Calls from landlines and mobiles are included in free call packages." Keith Edited September 4, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenglade Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Part 1 arrived in this mornings post.. no sign of the fee gift though, perhaps it comes from a different source, I have sent an email to ask the question... Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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