Granitechops Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 There was mention at one point that the newly raised section could be a metre or so lower than the height of the existing walkway. Has that idea now been dropped (sorry no pun intended)? I guess one issue would be providing steps or a ramp between the two levels. The problem with a ramp is that it could become very slippery at this location and steps inhibit buggies and wheelchairs. If the ramp will be higher than the present low walkway, it should be well out of the way of seaweed & algae growth they grow usually when the concrete surface is mostly underwater as at each tide etc., with the length involved there would be plenty of room for a GENTLE slope that would be safer when shingle gets thrown up The slipway at the Old Lifeboat House is lethal even when dry if its covered with just a scattering of the fine shingle That walk way leading to the slipway has still not had any official action I have personally swept that slope many times in the last couple of months having seen people go flat on their backs just walking down it but a gentle slope of say 3% would only take say about 33 meters each end for a 1 meter drop in level pesonally I think a level walkway right through would be the safest way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 In view of their very recently nearly making an unwanted trip out to sea in their front rooms I would have thought that the residents would be rather keen on anything which reduces the risk of such an excursion happening in the future. Maybe this pair fancy a swim without having to walk to the beach? I think all of us are very defensive of our own properties, quite often its the fear of something new or different. And if in the past they have had a private view of the sea without anyone looking into their properties. But on the other hand there are plenty of houses which have no front gardens and folk walking right past the front windows. Am I right in thinking that the path is the beach side of the railway, if so they would have to have binoculars to see in !!. Net curtains should solve the problem And as what has been said already is that it is the railway that is stopping the sea reclaiming their houses. Those poor souls on the eastern side of the country where coastal erosion is at its worst would love a path built between them and the sea to stop the coastal erosion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Playing catchup Thurs 10th July 2014 Coryton Cove new beach huts assembled & being painted parapet to walk way in need of repair, highlighted in red aerosol waiting for tide to go down to take un-needed items off site taken across to the slipway by the Pirates Chest cafe where it was loaded onto a pick-up & the return trip with a compressor a later arrival was small work boat work boat beached at Boat Cove slipway Edited July 15, 2014 by Granitechops 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewstone Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Please accept my apologies if I have stated incorrect information. I don't know why but I thought that a proposal had been put forward to try and appease some of the Sea Lawn Terrace residents that the raised sea wall should be a metre lower than the existing high level sea wall. Personally I agree with Granitechops that one level is preferable. I personally want to be able to see the trains, although I absolutely promise not to use binoculars and peer through the residents windows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 To get things into perspective looking at Network Rails pic from 25th March on their website Even if the walk way comes upto the top of the "L" shaped concrete sections ( which does look unlikely ) the far wall is approx 6 - 8 feet tall so I doubt if from the walkway you would even see the ground floor & all you would see of the upper floors would be the room ceilings IF there were no reflection from the sky turning the windows into mirrors! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Playing catchup Thurs 10th July 2014 Coryton Cove new beach huts assembled & being painted 100_3185 (Medium).JPG parapet to walk way in need of repair, highlighted in red aerosol 100_3186 (Medium).JPG waiting for tide to go down 7-14-2014_024.jpg to take un-needed items off site 7-14-2014_026.jpg taken across to the slipway by the Pirates Chest cafe where it was loaded onto a pick-up 7-14-2014_036.jpg & the return trip with a compressor 7-14-2014_030 C.jpg 7-14-2014_033.jpg a later arrival was small work boat 7-14-2014_041.jpg work boat beached at Boat Cove slipway 100_3172 (Medium).JPG Granitechops When are you getting one of those grabs for the back of your off roader Great photos and thanks for sharing them, I think most of us now have a very soft spot for Dawlish now and hopefully the washout and repair will give the town a bit of a welcome tourism boost. But please don't look into the windows of the terrace !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Granitechops When are you getting one of those grabs for the back of your off roader Great photos and thanks for sharing them, I think most of us now have a very soft spot for Dawlish now and hopefully the washout and repair will give the town a bit of a welcome tourism boost. But please don't look into the windows of the terrace !! My dear lady who rides tandem behind didn't think much of my idea of a FORKLIFT on the FRONT so I think the idea of a grab above her head would be a NO-NO 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 Granitechops, on 15 Jul 2014 - 16:48, said: To get things into perspective looking at Network Rails pic from 25th March on their website Even if the walk way comes upto the top of the "L" shaped concrete sections ( which does look unlikely ) the far wall is approx 6 - 8 feet tall so I doubt if from the walkway you would even see the ground floor & all you would see of the upper floors would be the room ceilings IF there were no reflection from the sky turning the windows into mirrors! 25-March---view-of-concrete-_L_-sections-and-tops-of-old-containers.jpg Unless they have mirrors on their ceilings!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 15, 2014 Unless they have mirrors on their ceilings!!!! Kinky Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Unless they have mirrors on their ceilings!!!! ...pink champagne on ice. Couldn't resist Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Lets get back on topic seen at 8.30 this morning Wed 16th July looked like an upturned table being towed by a tug awaiting the high tide to get into Teignmouth Dock turned out to be No. 7 from Harwich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Apparently there will be another one here soon No.7 is alongside to have a mobile crane loaded on deck seen from the carpark Also has a name- Haven Seariser 4 seen thro a hole in the fence Close up And seen from Polly Steps car park A serious bit of kit I shudder to think what the hire of two of them will cost BUT the right tool for the job maybe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Quoted from http://www.seawork.com/news101/another-jack-up-for-red7marine2 & dated 14th July Probably the largest vessel yet to be formally christened at SeaWork is the jackup barge 'Haven Seariser 4', delivered to Red7 Marine from the builders Ravestein. The group’s fourth purchase of this type from the Dutch builder helps to underline its position as a leading provider of self-elevating platforms to the marine civils and construction sector. Haven Seariser 4 is a Standard RCP-250 type jackup measuring 29.3m loa by 17.10m width, with a height of 2.45m and a leg length of 36m. Its payload is 250 tonnes. Its modular construction makes it suitable to be broken down for road transportation but on this occasion it was towed from Rotterdam by MTS Victory - See more at: http://www.seawork.com/news101/another-jack-up-for-red7marine2#sthash.8PH5XVhY.dpuf At a rough guestimate that legs of over 116 feet and 55 feet wide by 94 feet long and looks like one of its first jobs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted July 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2014 Ball Diamond Ball, restricted in ability to manoeuvre, draft needed greater than 12 metres. I was sat in this very chair last year and saw the top of a tug and 4 black poles poking above the sand dunes. it was a very tall set up it's the only time I have ever seen anything at sea from here. The Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2014 What is it actually going to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 What is it actually going to do? Probably it will sit on the beach opposite the washout site jack its legs down to lift the deck up to a height above high spring tides will then receive shipments of precast concrete units ( 6 tons each?) barged in from Teignmouth docks & with a large crane on its deck be able to place said units on their bases on the seawall & also remove the containers ( still full? ) on to waiting barges And being a stable platform , independent of tide level, will enable work to continue whatever the tide BUT still subject to storm, rough swells & surges causing difficulties on the shore site Seeing that an idle swing arm shovel was rumored to cost £1000 per day I recon we will very soon see a great deal of activity Maybe Network Rail will achieve the completment of the wall well before many people expect it to They wont want any accusations of waste, with these babies sitting idle doing nothing unnesseserily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Ball Diamond Ball, restricted in ability to manoeuvre, draft needed greater than 12 metres. I was sat in this very chair last year and saw the top of a tug and 4 black poles poking above the sand dunes. it was a very tall set up it's the only time I have ever seen anything at sea from here. The Q I am not a nautical type, but I doubt if there is anything like 12 meters depth at that width at the entrance to the river Teign So to check facts;- Teignmouth dock website says 5 mtrs Draught at the dockside & quote from Harbour commisioners ""Teignmouth can currently accommodate vessels of in excess of 100 metres in length and up to 5.0 metres draft on the highest spring tides."" I would have thought that for close maneuvering the draught required with columns raised would be little more than 2-3 metres max appears to be flat bottomed with a hull depth of only 2.5 mtrs Judging from the above photo its tide line on the hull is only about just a bit more than 1 mtr Edited July 16, 2014 by Granitechops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Fort further reference Ball-Diamond-Ball is a reference to Day Signals hoisted so other vessels can see status of boat, so as to avoid collisions etc see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_shapes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Wednesday 16th July 2014 Breakwater Boat Cove strengthening the outer end they are using (so I am told) double mesh stainless steel reinforcing sheets against the wall about 9" off? and being enclosed in place with spraycrete close up of digger holding mesh off wall while spraying proceeds this stuff goes off rock hard within 15 mins I was told 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) The holes have now got the stainless pins in place & they were pumping 'grout' in to seal them But I have an idea that someone has underestimated the amount needed in theory you can work out the volume of the hole, & some are 8 mtrs deep But that does not allow for any VOIDS in between the masonry rthat the grout will also fill one bore took 1.5 pallets of grout approx 1.5 tonnes? could really be one solid piece when done!! View of wall after tide caused crew to withdraw to higher ground Next step is to remove scaffolding so as to move higher with cladding Edited July 17, 2014 by Granitechops 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 What is it actually going to do? The two barges, when in position opposite Sea Lawn Terrace, will form a working platform for the raising of the public walkway along that 300 metre section. They should both be in position by the end of the first week in August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 The two barges, when in position opposite Sea Lawn Terrace, will form a working platform for the raising of the public walkway along that 300 metre section. They should both be in position by the end of the first week in August. But then the workers will be able to look through the windows on Sea Lawn Terrace - surely that can't be right, there'll be demos on the Terrace at this rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_1066 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 "If you can see what i can see when i'm cleaning windows repairing the sea wall at Dawlish" Doesn't scan quite so well unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 "If you can see what i can see when i'm cleaning windows repairing the sea wall at Dawlish" Doesn't scan quite so well unfortunately. 40 years ago I used to clean windows along Sealawn & Riviera Terraces the first clean of the season just before Easter, you had to SCRAPE the encrusted salt off before you could wash them!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I dont know if the magnificent Dawlish orange army are the same as the present day Teignmouth sea wall orange army? But this army seems to be more yellow than orange. Tuesday I witnessed little action on the sea wall apart from sitting, drinking and talking during my walk along the beach. Today however I actually saw work being done. In comparison to the destruction at Dawlish and the wonderful and quick work done there it seems to take the yellow army a lifetime to repair small (in comparison) areas of wall. I understand that there are probably underlying reasons that orange clad men are inactive for seemingly long periods but it looks odd to see no work being carried out so often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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