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There was mention at one point that the newly raised section could be a metre or so lower than the height of the existing walkway. Has that idea now been dropped (sorry no pun intended)? I guess one issue would be providing steps or a ramp between the two levels. The problem with a ramp is that it could become very slippery at this location and steps inhibit buggies and wheelchairs.

If the ramp will be higher than the present low walkway,

 

it should be well out of the way of seaweed & algae growth

 

they grow usually when the concrete surface is mostly underwater as at each tide etc.,

 

with the length involved there would be plenty of room for a GENTLE slope

 

that would be safer when shingle gets thrown up

 

The slipway at the Old Lifeboat House is lethal even when dry

 

if its covered with just a scattering of the fine shingle

 

 

That walk way leading to the slipway has still not had any official action

 

I have personally swept that slope  many times in the last couple of months

 

having seen people go flat on their backs just walking down it 

 

but a gentle slope of say 3%

 

would only take say about 33 meters each end

 

for a 1 meter drop in level

 

pesonally I think a level walkway right through would be the safest way

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In view of their very recently nearly making an unwanted trip out to sea in their front rooms I would have thought that the residents would be rather keen on anything which reduces the risk of such an excursion happening in the future.  Maybe this pair fancy a swim without having to walk to the beach?

 

 

I think all of us are very defensive of our own properties, quite often its the fear of something new or different. And if in the past they have had a private view of the sea without anyone looking into their properties.

 

But on the other hand there are plenty of houses which have no front gardens and folk walking right past the front windows. Am I right in thinking that the path is the beach side of the railway, if so they would have to have binoculars to see in !!. Net curtains should solve the problem

 

And as what has been said already is that it is the railway that is stopping the sea reclaiming their houses. Those poor souls on the eastern side of the country where coastal erosion is at its worst would love a path built between them and the sea to stop the coastal erosion.

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Playing catchup

 

Thurs 10th July 2014

 

Coryton Cove

 

new beach huts assembled & being painted

 

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parapet to walk way in need of repair, highlighted in red aerosol

 

 

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waiting for tide to go down

 

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to take  un-needed items  off site

 

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taken across to the slipway by the Pirates Chest cafe

 

where it was loaded onto a pick-up

 

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& the return trip  with a compressor

 

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a later arrival  was  small work boat

 

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work boat beached at Boat Cove slipway

 

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Please accept my apologies if I have stated incorrect information. I don't know why but I thought that a proposal had been put forward to try and appease some of the Sea Lawn Terrace residents that the raised sea wall should be a metre lower than the existing high level sea wall. Personally I agree with Granitechops that one level is preferable. I personally want to be able to see the trains, although I absolutely promise not to use binoculars and peer through the residents windows.

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To get things into perspective

 

looking at Network Rails pic from 25th March on their website

 

Even if the walk way comes upto the top of the "L" shaped concrete sections

 

( which does look unlikely )

 

the far wall is approx 6 - 8 feet tall

 

so I doubt if from the walkway you would even see the ground floor

 

& all you would see of the upper floors would be the room ceilings

 

IF there were no reflection from the sky turning the windows into mirrors!

 

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Playing catchup

 

Thurs 10th July 2014

 

Coryton Cove

 

new beach huts assembled & being painted

 

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parapet to walk way in need of repair, highlighted in red aerosol

 

 

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waiting for tide to go down

 

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to take  un-needed items  off site

 

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taken across to the slipway by the Pirates Chest cafe

 

where it was loaded onto a pick-up

 

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& the return trip  with a compressor

 

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a later arrival  was  small work boat

 

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work boat beached at Boat Cove slipway

 

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Granitechops

 

When are you getting one of those grabs for the back of your off roader  :jester:

 

Great photos and thanks for sharing them, I think most of us now have a very soft spot for Dawlish now and hopefully the washout and repair will give the town a bit of a welcome tourism boost. But please don't look into the windows of the terrace !!

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Granitechops

 

When are you getting one of those grabs for the back of your off roader  :jester:

 

Great photos and thanks for sharing them, I think most of us now have a very soft spot for Dawlish now and hopefully the washout and repair will give the town a bit of a welcome tourism boost. But please don't look into the windows of the terrace !!

My dear lady who rides tandem behind didn't think much of my idea of a FORKLIFT on the FRONT

 

so I think the idea  of a grab above her head would be a NO-NO   :no:   :no:  :no:    :nono:

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Granitechops, on 15 Jul 2014 - 16:48, said:

To get things into perspective

 

looking at Network Rails pic from 25th March on their website

 

Even if the walk way comes upto the top of the "L" shaped concrete sections

 

( which does look unlikely )

 

the far wall is approx 6 - 8 feet tall

 

so I doubt if from the walkway you would even see the ground floor

 

& all you would see of the upper floors would be the room ceilings

 

IF there were no reflection from the sky turning the windows into mirrors!

 

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Unless they have mirrors on their ceilings!!!! :O

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Apparently there will be another one here soon

 

No.7 is alongside to have a mobile crane loaded on deck

 

seen from the carpark

 

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Also has a name-  Haven Seariser 4 

 

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seen thro a hole in the fence

 

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Close up

 

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And

 

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seen from Polly Steps car park

 

 

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A serious bit of kit

 

I shudder to think what the hire of two of them will cost

 

BUT

 

the right tool for the job maybe

 

 

 

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Quoted from 

 

http://www.seawork.com/news101/another-jack-up-for-red7marine2

 

 

& dated 14th July

 

 

Probably the largest vessel yet to be formally christened at SeaWork is the jackup barge 'Haven Seariser 4', delivered to Red7 Marine from the builders Ravestein. The group’s fourth purchase of this type from the Dutch builder helps to underline its position as a leading provider of self-elevating platforms to the marine civils and construction sector.

Haven Seariser 4 is a Standard RCP-250 type jackup measuring 29.3m loa by 17.10m width, with a height of 2.45m and a leg length of 36m. Its payload is 250 tonnes. Its modular construction makes it suitable to be broken down for road transportation but on this occasion it was towed from Rotterdam by MTS Victory

- See more at: http://www.seawork.com/news101/another-jack-up-for-red7marine2#sthash.8PH5XVhY.dpuf

 

 

At a rough guestimate that legs of over 116 feet

 

 

and 55  feet wide

 

by  94 feet long

 

and looks like one of its first jobs

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ball Diamond Ball, restricted in ability to manoeuvre, draft needed greater than 12 metres.

I was sat in this very chair last year and saw the top of a tug and 4 black poles poking above the sand dunes. it was a very tall set up it's the only time I have ever seen anything at sea from here.

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What is it actually going to do?

Probably

 

it will sit on the beach opposite the washout site

 

jack its legs down to lift the deck up to a height above high spring tides

 

will then receive shipments of precast concrete units ( 6 tons each?)

 

barged in from Teignmouth docks

 

& with a large crane on its deck

 

be able to place said units on their bases on the seawall

 

& also remove the containers ( still full? )

 

on to waiting barges

 

And being a stable platform , independent of tide level,

 

will enable work to continue whatever the tide

 

BUT

 

still subject to storm, rough swells & surges causing difficulties on the shore site

 

Seeing that an idle swing arm shovel was rumored to cost £1000 per day

 

I recon we will very soon see a great deal of activity

 

Maybe Network Rail will achieve the completment of the wall 

 

well before many people expect it to

 

They wont want any accusations of waste,

 

with these babies sitting idle doing nothing unnesseserily

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Ball Diamond Ball, restricted in ability to manoeuvre, draft needed greater than 12 metres.

I was sat in this very chair last year and saw the top of a tug and 4 black poles poking above the sand dunes. it was a very tall set up it's the only time I have ever seen anything at sea from here.

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I am not a nautical type, but I doubt if there is anything like 12 meters  depth at that width at the entrance to the river Teign

 

So to check facts;-

 

Teignmouth dock website says 5 mtrs Draught at the dockside

 

 

& quote from Harbour commisioners

 

""Teignmouth can currently accommodate vessels of in excess of 100 metres in length

 

and up to 5.0 metres draft on the highest spring tides.""

 

I would have thought that for close maneuvering the draught required with columns raised would be little more than  2-3 metres max

 

appears to be flat bottomed with a hull depth of only 2.5 mtrs

 

Judging from the above photo its tide line on the hull is only about just a bit more than 1 mtr 

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Wednesday 16th July 2014

 

Breakwater Boat Cove

 

strengthening the outer end

 

they are using (so I am told)

 

double mesh stainless steel reinforcing sheets against the wall

 

about 9" off?

 

 and being enclosed in place with spraycrete

 

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close up of digger holding mesh off wall while spraying proceeds

 

this stuff goes off rock hard within 15 mins I was told

 

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The holes have now got the stainless pins in place

 

& they were pumping 'grout'  in to seal them

 

But I have an idea that someone has underestimated the amount needed

 

in theory you can work out the volume of the hole,

 

 & some are 8 mtrs deep

 

But that does not allow for any VOIDS in between the masonry

 

rthat the grout will also fill

 

one bore took 1.5 pallets of grout

 

approx 1.5 tonnes?

 

could really be one solid piece when done!!

 

View of wall after tide caused crew to withdraw to higher ground

 

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Next step is to remove scaffolding so as to move higher with cladding

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What is it actually going to do?

The two barges, when in position opposite Sea Lawn Terrace, will form a working platform for the raising of the public walkway along that 300 metre section. They should both be in position by the end of the first week in August.

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The two barges, when in position opposite Sea Lawn Terrace, will form a working platform for the raising of the public walkway along that 300 metre section. They should both be in position by the end of the first week in August.

But then the workers will be able to look through the windows on Sea Lawn Terrace - surely that can't be right, there'll be demos on the Terrace at this rate  :jester:

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"If you can see what i can see when i'm cleaning windows repairing the sea wall at Dawlish"

 

Doesn't scan quite so well unfortunately.

40 years ago I used to clean windows along Sealawn & Riviera Terraces 

 

the first clean of the season just before Easter,

 

you had to SCRAPE the encrusted salt off before you could wash them!!

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I dont know if the magnificent Dawlish orange army are the same as the present day Teignmouth sea wall orange army? But this army seems to be more yellow than orange.

Tuesday I witnessed little action on the sea wall apart from sitting, drinking and talking during my walk along the beach. Today however I actually saw work being done.

In comparison to the destruction at Dawlish and the wonderful and quick work done there it seems to take the yellow army a lifetime to repair small (in comparison) areas of wall. I understand that there are probably underlying reasons that orange clad men are inactive for seemingly long periods but it looks odd to see no work being carried out so often.

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