pb_devon Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, locoholic said: Does the strengthening of the Dawlish Sea Wall mean that train passengers will no longer be able to see the sea properly? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-48472901 No. The length of work is between Dawlish Station and Kennaway tunnel ONLY. About 1/3rd of a mile. For this length it is possible the sea will still be visible, but not the beach. The remainder of the sea wall is unaffected. Edited June 1, 2019 by pb_devon 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted May 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2020 Plans unveiled for remaining section of £80m Dawlish sea wall https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/plans-unveiled-for-remaining-section-of-gbp-80m-dawlish-sea-wall-that-will-protect-the-railway-and-the-vital-link-it-provides-for-the-south-west 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Dagworth said: Plans unveiled for remaining section of £80m Dawlish sea wall https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/plans-unveiled-for-remaining-section-of-gbp-80m-dawlish-sea-wall-that-will-protect-the-railway-and-the-vital-link-it-provides-for-the-south-west Bring it on ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted May 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Expensive and arguably ugly lifts rather than a simple ramped access to the down side (up side is already ramped access or could easily become so). Either a planning issue or a fixed-in-concrete mindset. Ramps don'g go out of service and need a fitter to fix them either. Edited May 22, 2020 by Gwiwer 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted May 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2020 Cue nimby responses!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2020 You can see some progress here: https://railcam.uk/cameras/watchsingle.php?Cam1=DBBlenheimFree&Diag=DBBlenheimFree 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Dagworth said: Plans unveiled for remaining section of £80m Dawlish sea wall https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/plans-unveiled-for-remaining-section-of-gbp-80m-dawlish-sea-wall-that-will-protect-the-railway-and-the-vital-link-it-provides-for-the-south-west I note they will 'remove pigeon roosts' from under the down platform. That will definitely get rid of a lot of mess. I have not walked along there for about 18 months, and when this current lock down is lifted I will enjoy a day out along the wall. cheers 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Of note, it's also been pointed out on another forum that, Hidden as the last item on the consultation is demolition of the Coastguard’s Boathouse which is said to have been designed by Brunel himself. Though the boathouse is not listed, it is a positive building in the Conservation Area. Personally I'm not a fan of these new designs. While I can accept that something does need to be done about the sea & sea wall though the area, this does seem to include some rather over the top features. The bridge I feel is out of keeping with the station and surprisingly, for a place concerned about the weather, is open to the elements. I'm not impressed by the height of the new "promenade" either. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 22/05/2020 at 10:56, Gwiwer said: Expensive and arguably ugly lifts rather than a simple ramped access to the down side (up side is already ramped access or could easily become so). Either a planning issue or a fixed-in-concrete mindset. Ramps don'g go out of service and need a fitter to fix them either. Ramps have the problem of space required, so it may be a case of them not being viable, though only NR would know the reasoning. 17 hours ago, surfsup said: Personally I'm not a fan of these new designs. While I can accept that something does need to be done about the sea & sea wall though the area, this does seem to include some rather over the top features. The bridge I feel is out of keeping with the station and surprisingly, for a place concerned about the weather, is open to the elements. I'm not impressed by the height of the new "promenade" either. I agree that at least the computer image shows an open to the weather bridge which would seem to be ill advised - I could see disability groups / individuals filing court cases over the issue. And while not necessarily a fan of the new promenade, I also acknowledge that I am (currently) an able bodied adult with no young children. Extending the promenade to be effectively a single level with a comfortable width(*) for the entire length of the Dawlish area will I suspect in hindsight be viewed as a positive for Dawlish tourism as it makes using it that much more attractive not just to the disabled but to families with young kids. But as Devon changes, and commuting to Exeter for jobs (hence the Devon Metro concept) becomes ever more a reality, the "quaint" images of the sea soaking the down side become more of an issue of being unacceptable. * - and it may even be wide enough to allow proper social distancing if still required when finished, or again in the future at some point 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, mdvle said: But as Devon changes, and commuting to Exeter for jobs (hence the Devon Metro concept) becomes ever more a reality, the "quaint" images of the sea soaking the down side become more of an issue of being unacceptable. For those who live and work here this is much needed, whilst I agree it may be enjoyable for visitors ( and locals ) to admire it can make a vast difference between remaining quaint or moving into the future. We can all live in the past and dream but the reality of it strikes home when the line is closed due to bad weather and local commuters need to get to work. This can disrupt many of the local services which also leave commuters stranded or having to rearrange their day and become frustrated. It is one of the most scenic railway journeys in the country, long may it continue to be so especially when going to or returning home in the knowledge that it will be possible in the future due to these proposals. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Dawlish Beach Cams has a video interview with David Lovell of Network Rail where questions from the public were asked. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted July 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 23/05/2020 at 17:51, bgman said: For those who live and work here this is much needed, whilst I agree it may be enjoyable for visitors ( and locals ) to admire it can make a vast difference between remaining quaint or moving into the future. We can all live in the past and dream but the reality of it strikes home when the line is closed due to bad weather and local commuters need to get to work. This can disrupt many of the local services which also leave commuters stranded or having to rearrange their day and become frustrated. It is one of the most scenic railway journeys in the country, long may it continue to be so especially when going to or returning home in the knowledge that it will be possible in the future due to these proposals. I'm not at all unsympathetic to that view but I do find (and I'm talking very generally here, more than just the railways) that despite the good intentions and real practical benefits in many cases behind each measure and scheme the net result is a world I find ever more depressing to live in. Would I feel the same way if my circumstances were different (e.g. not able-bodied)? Who can ever say, although I do always at least try to think "if I was in that position how would I feel?" And don't forget "enjoyable" - the look and feel of your day to day surroundings - can have a very big impact on your state of mind and hence quality of life. No doubt I'll get an earful for this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 23, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2020 Difficult to tell from the image above, but if kids can’t see over the wall to see the beach, it’s not going to be much fun for families to use. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 It could be more fun - get the kids a pair of stilts, let 'em walk along the top of the wall, maybe walk along the beach, or give up and go elsewhere, like the warren. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 And they have started work again on the beach 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted November 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2020 An interesting new bit of kit has arrived. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000pchh/spotlight-late-news-10112020 starts 5m 45s in. Note that this will only available up to 22.45 tonight 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Assuming the news thing was about the wave walker, the Dawlish Beach Cams YouTube people have a video to 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted November 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2020 Indeed it was. Thanks for that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 New video by someone who has flown their drone over the area. Some trains pass by which help to give an idea of how big the wave walker is. Second half of the video he goes down to view the completed new wall section between the station and the tunnel mouth, giving a good idea of how it should better protect the railway. So having seen that went looking and found this video from August showing the new sea wall walkway on foot. Despite all the concern prior to it being built I think it works out well - the "railing" doesn't really seem to block the view and it looks to provide a nice safe walkway that families can be comfortable walking along. Comparing where this video starts - the gloomy section of walkway underneath the station platforms - I think the next segment of work will provide a much better experience overall for everyone who wants to walk along the coast as well as being more friendly to those with mobility issues. With the caveat that I don't know if Network Rail changed things based on feedback, I think Network Rail deserves credit for creating something that while protecting the railway will likely be considered by the town one of the key attractions for tourists in 5 years when most have forgotten all the angst of the last year or so. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Dawlish Derrick ! What a wonderful piece of engineering in its own right. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted November 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2020 Its looks spectacular at night, all lit up. Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted November 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) A few images of the wave walker in place alongside the station today. It's a big bit of kit, much larger than the platform used during the 2014 rebuild of the seawall. Also showing the temporary 'container wall' alongside the Dawlish Water outflow - not quite sure what this is for A class 150/143 combo departing for Paignton, viewed form the stone pier A couple of images of the completed walkway between the station and Kennaway Tunnel. Sadly there are metal railings being installed alongside the pathway so the view of trains is impaired; not sure how things look from the trains though. Obviously the walkway alongside/under the station platforms is now blocked off, but the path from the station access up towards the road allows a good viewpoint across the station carpark Edited November 21, 2020 by Ramblin Rich 4 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2021 With all this work that has been done the track still gets problems when stormy as today. Trains are running "wrong line" between Dawlish Warren & Teignmouth as the seaward (down) line is considered blocked. Causing a bit a backlog of trains. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, melmerby said: Trains are running "wrong line" between Dawlish Warren & Teignmouth as the seaward (down) line is considered blocked. Apparently the weather has caused s signal to lean at a jaunty angle. Both lines were blocked for a time until bi-directional working could be safely established over the Up road. That requires XC services to be terminated at / started from Exeter and a few other alterations to permit up to three trains each way each hour along the sea wall. I saw posts on the antisocial media calling for the immediate reopening of the inland (LSWR) route, perhaps predictably, but these always overlook the practical realities not least the continued need to serve Torbay and the coastal towns. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gwiwer said: Apparently the weather has caused s signal to lean at a jaunty angle. Both lines were blocked for a time until bi-directional working could be safely established over the Up road. That requires XC services to be terminated at / started from Exeter and a few other alterations to permit up to three trains each way each hour along the sea wall. I saw posts on the antisocial media calling for the immediate reopening of the inland (LSWR) route, perhaps predictably, but these always overlook the practical realities not least the continued need to serve Torbay and the coastal towns. Cross Country trains are still running in both directions along the sea wall but the signallers are queueing the trains and sending them two or three in sequence each way between Teignmouth and Dawlish Warren, there are less signals controlling the bi directional working and trains travelling south are running a lot slower in that direction. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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