Brian Hawkins Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Typical, I've ordered two Wickam trolley's from my local model shop, 32-991 and 32-993 and which one turns up first........yep, 32-992, I hate this hobby sometimes :-) Edited October 31, 2016 by Brian Hawkins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) I have emailed Hattons as the option to have them DCC fitted seems to have been removed. Edited October 31, 2016 by thebritfarmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlebox Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 ...and don't forget the sound chip with Dora Bryan shouting in the style only she could master, "I claim the reword fwa St Twinians". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_8ZisNSk8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacon butty Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I have emailed Hattons as the option to have them DCC fitted seems to have been removed. Yes I too noticed this - I have it on pre-order for the maroon one with the option of Hattons soldering the decoder in. I emailed them at lunch time Monday regarding that the option has now been taken off the system. As soon as I hear off them I will post what they say - you never know it may be that they are getting too many orders for them to fit the decoder and it's a way to make sure that they don't get a back-log. I'm sure we will know on Tuesday. The model does look good! Stuart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Trofimow Posted October 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2016 I have emailed Hattons as the option to have them DCC fitted seems to have been removed. I had one on order from Hattons, but had an email from them to say that now they have had the opportunity to examine one, they will not be able to offer the decoder fitting service. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted October 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_8ZisNSk8 Another livery, black! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Another livery, black! Black is good, an excellent base for the Loadhaul version we all really want! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacon butty Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've had a notification off Hattons and now that they have the model they have decided not to offer this service. From the reply I have it's obvious that it requires a little more effort than soldering 2 wires! They we're using their own decoder for cost reasons - I notice that the DCC Concepts one is a little smaller but a little more costly. I'm wondering about attacking the wagon load with a dremel and then modelling a tarpaulin to go anything that is visible. Hope this helps to clarify the DCC conversion offered initially by Hattons. Stuart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 You'll need to break into the wiring so there is a bit of work required - at least 4 wires to solder. Do it in the railcar and a tiny chip could be hidden in the back under "stuff". In the trailer you'll need to make a taller load BUT I think the existing one is structural as it appear to hold the motor down. Removing and replacing the top seemed to make a difference to the gear noise until the screws were replaced properly. I don't see this as a problem - just something to be aware of. The load is plastic by the way so you won't need a Dremell. All the weight is either side of the motor in the casting. DCC doable? I would think so, but it's more than a plug-in job. Blame the prototype! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Well no trolley for me then, it is a little poor that in this day and age DCC provisions have not been made. Edited November 1, 2016 by thebritfarmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 it is a little poor that in this day and age DCC provisions have not been made. We've been over it all before - there is simply no room for a decoder and socket in the model in a way which would suit a product for the mass market. Those of us who want to DCC it will find a way (or someone who can); if the product had a socket on the railcar floor and lost more space with a decoder there would have been more people objecting to that compromise (especially if they're DC). So if the market was adamant that it had to be DCC compatible we wouldn't have a Wickham trolley full stop. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hi. I'm both DC and DCC on my layout. I've just bought a trolley, and will use it in DC mode. I hope to upload a video to YouTube either later today or tomorrow. Best regards, Rob. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 Look forwards to seeing that Rob Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hi, I've made two little videos of it, and now I have to get them uploaded to YouTube. I will do my best. Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Here are the two videos I've just uploaded to YouTube of the trolley. They are not perfect, and my layout is not perfect either, but I think they give a reasonable idea of how the trolley runs on a layout. Peco code 100 track.[/url] [/url] Best regards, Rob. Edited November 1, 2016 by Market65 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2016 Many thanks Rob Looks a nice little mover - and layout looks good too! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Well I'm torn. I really want one, but I won't be having any DC on my layout....so it would be for display only. .....It's so cute though..... - Alex Edit: Plus it might be worth buying it as I live in hope that a DCC solution may one day be found. Edited November 2, 2016 by Midland Mole 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 If a Farish 03 can be dcc'ed then there is no reason why this cannot.Obviously a hard wiring job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 40-something Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Well no trolley for me then, it is a little poor that in this day and age DCC provisions have not been made. I don't think you realise just how small this model is, there is just no room for a plug and play dcc option without losing substantial detail from the trolley or having a very unrealistic load on the trailer. Why don't you fit a chip yourself or pay someone to do it rather than slate the manufacturer? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted November 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2016 I called in at Arcadia Models, Shaw today for another item and discovered they had the yellow wickham trolley in stock. I had to get one. It really is tiny. Bachman have done an amazing job to squeeze a motor into such a little beast. Five years ago dcc decoders were bigger than the Wickham Trolley, so no suprise that it isn't DCC ready. Hopefully someone will show us how to squeeze one of the tiny decoders which you can now get into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I don't think you realise just how small this model is, there is just no room for a plug and play dcc option without losing substantial detail from the trolley or having a very unrealistic load on the trailer. Why don't you fit a chip yourself or pay someone to do it rather than slate the manufacturer? Because :- A) I don't have the skills B) I am in Canada and do not have anyone that coudl do it for me I am entitled to an opinion and don't think I should be bashed because of it. I haven't said anything mean or degrading or anything other members may be thinking. Enough on the subject I get it, it's micro and DC................................... Edited November 2, 2016 by thebritfarmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I am entitled to an opinion and don't think I should be bashed because of it. Entitlement? Really? And if you do express an opinion which is wholly impractical please do expect others to respond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacon butty Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Well I've still kept my order for the maroon version but added a separated DCC Concepts Zen Nano decoder to the order - not sure yet how I'm going to fix it all together but I am sure with the expert advice always available on here that I'll get it to work on DCC! My crew are all ready to be fixed inside (the Preiser seated industrial workers) - just can't wait for it to become available. I'm now spending my spare hours practicing my solder skills... gulp! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I hope those of you that have got a Wickham have seen the warning about DCC controllers - it says : "Do not run the Wickham Trolley as an 'analogue' item on a DCC system (DCC Address 0, or 10 on E-Z Command as the motor will be permanently damaged by the DCC signal" I read this just in time.......... BIG question - does this mean that it CANNOT be chipped for DCC - answers please? Edited November 2, 2016 by Martin_R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Coreless motor. OK for a decent chip of which all "micro" decoders should be. Edited November 2, 2016 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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