talisman56 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hi Martyn Veering off topic a bit, I never visited the castle or the one at Hadliegh. When you live near something you can go and see, or do any day you never get round to doing it. How many Londoners have seen the changing of the guard, except those who were passing Buck house going form A to B at the time? While still in the 'courting' stage of our relationship, one Sunday afternoon with no idea of what to do I suggested to my now-wife that we visit Clevedon Court (just outside the town on the Bristol Road). She said that she had never been to it, despite being born in the town 22 years previously and going past it twice a day on the bus to work... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 ECML today around Abbotts Ripton and Finsbury Park. The Finsbury Park photos were taken late on a very dull January afternoon. They are included to illustrate the difficulties of photographing trains in the days of 100ASA slide film in winter - digital cameras have made life so much easier (though perhaps less challenging). Abbots Ripton Class 55 down July 77 C3390.jpg Abbots Ripton Class 55 down July 77 C3390 David C3390, the famed 'Deltic + 8' which Roger Ford still uses as the yardstick for train performance in his Modern Railways column. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ill take a stab at the routine spot the Deltic theme of this thread for C3390. In that timescale, plated headcode and very short nameplate it can only be 55003 Meld? Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hi, Dave. That's great set of ECML photo's from Abbot's Ripton and Finsbury Park. The first photo' is interesting for it shows a 40 plus 8 formation. Then we get to see, in C3390, one of the Deltic plus 8 trains. There's no way a 40 could equal a Deltic even with just 8 coaches. I wonder if it was an emergency stand in for a Deltic? Or are we seeing a summer extra? With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 J4525 from the formation and angle of the sun was the 08:30 KX-Cleethorpes J4538 from the formation, the nearer train is an up Cleethorpes-KX train, probably the 12:53. If that is correct the down train could be 14:20 KX-Leeds (which also looks to be 47 hauled). C3390 from the formation and sunlight was likely to be the 11:25 KX-Harrogate. An RMB was substituting for the usual RB. 1L20 was the 14:20 KX-Leeds. C2593 (timing from 1L20) the Cravens DMU was probably the 13:25 Hertford North-KX. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Castle Hedingham Barclay Victory and Hunslet WD190 May 79 C4568 What is going on with the enclosed cab? Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Castle Hedingham Barclay Victory and Hunslet WD190 May 79 C4568 What is going on with the enclosed cab? Paul I think the Barclay was ex-Chatham dockyard. Most of their Barclay locos were either built(?) or modified like that. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I think the Barclay was ex-Chatham dockyard. Most of their Barclay locos were either built(?) or modified like that. Adam Adam Thanks, presumably to provide protection in a munitions works. It looks like it could be very hot to work in! Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 8, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 J4525 from the formation and angle of the sun was the 08:30 KX-Cleethorpes J4538 from the formation, the nearer train is an up Cleethorpes-KX train, probably the 12:53. If that is correct the down train could be 14:20 KX-Leeds (which also looks to be 47 hauled). C3390 from the formation and sunlight was likely to be the 11:25 KX-Harrogate. An RMB was substituting for the usual RB. 1L20 was the 14:20 KX-Leeds. C2593 (timing from 1L20) the Cravens DMU was probably the 13:25 Hertford North-KX. Thanks again Mark. Those times make sense as they fit in with when Dad and/or I would have been at those locations. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) I'm struggling to get a good enough handle on the Brush 4 in C2592. The experimental headlight fitted below the driver's side tail light as part of experiment DL447 suggests that it's either 47 432, 47 434 or 47 523 but I can't find enough detail to identify it against any photographs of the time from elsewhere. As it's January 1976 it might be possible to identify which of the three had their headcode blinds wound to 0000 from 1st of that month and isolate one that way, seeing that your subject is showing 1L20 - but it's a long shot! Edited January 9, 2018 by 35A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm struggling to get a good enough handle on the Brush 4 in C2592. The experimental headlight fitted below the driver's side tail light as part of experiment DL447 suggests that it's either 47 432, 47 434 or 47 523 but I can't find enough detail to identify it against any photographs of the time from elsewhere. As it's January 1976 it might be possible to identify which of the three had their headcode blinds wound to 0000 from 1st of that month and isolate one that way, seeing that your subject is showing 1L20 - but it's a long shot! 47432 I think - this was taken in 1976 http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0187020388000. 47434, according to this photo from 1975 http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0187020441000 the headlight had already been plated over. 47523 had lost its left hand buffer beam lamp bracket - see https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4601/24539616147_822662e762_b.jpg taken in 1975, although strangely it had got it back by 1987 https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8296/7802535468_db39f2f258_b.jpg!. C3390 - not certain but my immediate reaction was 55003 looking at the number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 47432 I think - this was taken in 1976 http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0187020388000. 47434, according to this photo from 1975 http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=0187020441000 the headlight had already been plated over. 47523 had lost its left hand buffer beam lamp bracket - see https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4601/24539616147_822662e762_b.jpg taken in 1975, although strangely it had got it back by 1987 https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8296/7802535468_db39f2f258_b.jpg!. C3390 - not certain but my immediate reaction was 55003 looking at the number. Thanks, Andrew. Yes, that was the best that I've managed (so far). If I have time later I'll keep searching. I've checked my notes for that month but, sadly, no observation of any of those three locos or of 1L20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2018 More photos from Derbyshire today, taken over about thirty years. Ambergate East junction ballast tamper April 69 J1655 Cowburn Tunnel Class 101 Hull to Manchester Oct 77 J5826 Chinley North Junction Class 47 47101 limestone Oct 77 J5829 Great Rocks 19th April 90 C14400 Taken on a quiet day. Ambergate Central Trains Class 156 Derby to Matlock 25th March 02 C25802 David 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Is that your car dumped on the junction on C25802 or just a well timed shot. Quick sprint for the Sprinter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2018 Is that your car dumped on the junction on C25802 or just a well timed shot. Quick sprint for the Sprinter. Just good luck, I've no idea whose car it was. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 J5829 is carrying burnt lime for what is now the TATA plant at Port Talbot; I believe it was used in the Basic Oxygen steel plant, rather than in the blast furnaces. These wagons were used until a decade or so ago, being supplanted first by ex-Grainflow and other Polybulk bogie hoppers, and more recently by containers. The source of the lime changed as well, to Shap, and more recently, to one of the quarries near Ferryhill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 C14400 - must have been a very quiet day - the crossover is still on 'reverse'... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a splendid set of photos of Derbyshire this evening. In the second photo, I just have a feeling that the class 101 DMU might be standing in for a failed Trans Pennine unit. It’s certainly a long journey on even a refurbished class 101 from Hull to Manchester. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a splendid set of photos of Derbyshire this evening. In the second photo, I just have a feeling that the class 101 DMU might be standing in for a failed Trans Pennine unit. It’s certainly a long journey on even a refurbished class 101 from Hull to Manchester. With warmest regards, Rob. Are we sure it was a Hull-Manchester, 101's were used on short workings? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Are we sure it was a Hull-Manchester, 101's were used on short workings? Mike. The 101 just pre dates the use of TPs on full service over the Hope Valley. The 2car will be substituting for a 3 car Met-Camm. Al Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a splendid set of photos of Derbyshire this evening. In the second photo, I just have a feeling that the class 101 DMU might be standing in for a failed Trans Pennine unit. It’s certainly a long journey on even a refurbished class 101 from Hull to Manchester. With warmest regards, Rob. I would doubt it is a replacement for a Trans Pennine set; these ran Liverpool-Hull on the LNWR route via Standedge and Huddersfield rather than the Midland Edale Valleyl ine. I had a sister that lived in Selby for some time and remember the sets passing the back of her garden at the eastern end of the triangle; late 60s early 70s. I agree it is a long journey for a 101, but they were appearing on Cardiff-Weymouth trains not long after this. They had corridor connections and toilets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2018 I recall that the TP class 124s used the Standedge and the TP class 123s used the southern route from Manchester to Sheffield via Edale. It was very rare to see a 123 through Standedge. Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 More photos from Derbyshire today, taken over about thirty years. a Ambergate East junction ballast tamper April 69 J1655.jpg Ambergate East junction ballast tamper April 69 J1655 I assume you mean Ambergate North Junction Dave. I am not aware of Ambergate having an East Junction, the next box was Crich Junction for the Butterley line. There were some sidings at Crich Junction which were used by the Civil Engineer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 10, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2018 Another trip to the Harrogate area with photos of trains crossing the Stray and at Crimple viaduct. Once again these are from half frame slides. Crimple Class 110 Manchester to Harrogate Aug 65 J267 Crimple viaduct and Y&NMR trackbed beneath it Aug 65 J269 Harrogate Class 104 Manchester to Harrogate July 65 J205 Harrogate LMS Cass 5 45210 Harrogate to Kings X Sept 65 J375 Harrogate B1 61319 Harrogate to Kings X Feb 66 J444 David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2018 Today's photos are lovely, just the inspiration I need for my layout. DMUs in green and class 5 locos on short trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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