Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said:

J4625 and J4626 are the same train aren't they? In J4625 you can just see the first empty flask wagon behind the van and the shock open (presumably those are there as barrier vehicles).

I stayed on that coast once, just down the line at Seascale - strange place, hovering between desolate and beautiful, depending on the weather!

 

 

Yes, it is the same train.  It's one of Dad's photos so I can't be sure if it was just working to Sellafield or if it had any other freight at the rear.

 

I too have stayed at Seascale, I know exactly what you mean about the weather and how it affects it.  The whole of the Cumbrian coast feels a bit desolate at times.  I nearly ended up working in Whitehaven, I really prefer Northumberland.

 

David

Edited November 23, 2022 by DaveF

[andytrains]

A Copper with the Coppers!

[DaveF]

Mainly the Great Northen (and Great Central) around Nottingham in the early 1950s this afternoon.  Once again I'm not sure I could find these locations Dad used if I went there now.

 

 

gif Kimberley GN J5 up goods c1951 JVol7163

 

 

gif Kimberley Junction J39 up coal c1953 JVol4062

 

 

gif Moorbridge Junction GN and GC between Bestwood Colliery and Bulwell Forest c1952 JVol4292

 

 

gif Moorbridge Junction on GNR-line between Bestwood Colliery sta and Bulwell Forest O4 up coal c1952 JVol3189

 

 

gif Moorbridge Junction WD up coal c1952 JVol4094

 

 

David

[great central]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

Mainly the Great Northen (and Great Central) around Nottingham in the early 1950s this afternoon.  Once again I'm not sure I could find these locations Dad used if I went there now.

 

 

gif Kimberley GN J5 up goods c1951 JVol7163

 

 

gif Kimberley Junction J39 up coal c1953 JVol4062

 

 

gif Moorbridge Junction GN and GC between Bestwood Colliery and Bulwell Forest c1952 JVol4292

 

 

gif Moorbridge Junction on GNR-line between Bestwood Colliery sta and Bulwell Forest O4 up coal c1952 JVol3189

 

 

gif Moorbridge Junction WD up coal c1952 JVol4094

 

 

David

 

Moorbridge junction area may still exist in some form, some of the lines have been made into footpaths, intending to do more exploring of such things when I get out of hospital!

The one showing 'forty bridges' as it's known locally has been totally obliterated apart from the odd bit of brickwork. 

I presume the J5 is standing in the same area so again untraceable. 

[corneliuslundie]

Interesting track levels in JVol4292 as the branch climbs away from the main, so that the far main line had to be raised at the crossing. Not sure how model locos would cope.

Jonathan

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s an excellent selection of replacement photo’s of Sellafield as in August 1975 and 1979. In J6608, with a two car class 108 on a Carlisle to Lancaster service, in August, 1979, you can see, on the lower cab front, where the air pipe has been bashing up against it. It seems that pipe, on first generation DMU’s would come loose, and then it would bash the lower cab front. 

That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of the Great Northen (and Great Central) from around Nottingham in the early 1950s. In JVol4062, at Kimberley Junction, with a grimy J39, on an up coal train, c1953, you can see how the viaduct curved gracefully away. The bracket signal is ripe for modelling. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[DaveF]

Today's replacements come from Nottingham Midland in the 50s and 60s.

 

 

Nottingham Midland goods yard from the castle May 1951 J003

 

 

Nottingham MidlandClass 5 44906 and Class 2 78021 April 63 J045

 

 

Nottingham Midland Class 25 D7501 parcels Dec 68 J1506

 

 

Nottingham Midland Class 45 D52 The Lancashire Fusilier in early blue Dec 68 J1507

 

 

Nottingham Midland Class 47 D1533 GCR bridge behind Dec 68 J1509

 

 

David

[keefer]

J1509 - steam boiler on the Peak is working well, even though most of the heat seems to be escaping!🙂

Edited November 24, 2022 by keefer

[corneliuslundie]

j003: nearly 90 wagons by my reckoning. So I don't have too many model wagons after all!

A great photo of a scene we shall never see again.

Jonathan

[DaveF]

We are still in the Nottingham area in the early 1950s black and white days, this time at Bagthorpe Junction on the Great Central.

 

Here is a link to a map on the railscot site:  https://railscot.co.uk/locations/B/Bagthorpe_Junction/

Note: the map is modern with the railways superimposed.

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction J11 propelling brake van c1952 JVol3033 gif

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction K3 up goods c1950 JVol3226 gif

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction O1 up coal c1952 JVol3030 gif

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction V2 60857 up ex pass c1953 JVol5069 gif

 

 

Bagthorpe Junction V2 down goods c1952 JVol2055 gif

 

 

David

Edited November 24, 2022 by DaveF

[Peter Kazmierczak]

A superb image, David. Your dad certainly had a photographer's eye. I took the liberty to tweak it a bit to remove some of the dots from the scan. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Peter Kazmierczak

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a remarkable set of replacement photo’s of Nottingham Midland station in the 1950’s and 1960’s. In J1507, with class 45, D52, The Lancashire Fusilier, in early BR blue, in December, 1968, you can see that the secondman’s windscreen wiper has overshot, and is resting just above the window.

The Bagthorpe Junction photo’s from the early 1950’s are incredibly atmospheric, especially those from snowy days. As stated already, the last photo’ of that V2 is truly magnificent. A classic scene of a steam train in the snow. And the first photo’ of a Pom Pom, class J11, propelling a brake van, c1952, is something you don’t often see on models. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[great central]

Minor pedantry if you don't mind David? 

J5069 and 3226 might be better described as New Basford than Bagthorpe junction. 

The bridge shown is Perry Road, Bagthorpe junction is at the far end of the cutting seen through the bridge, spent many hours on those sandstone rocks in the early 60s, I was born in 1953.

They were at the rear of Basford Carriage shed, and probably now the only, even slight, evidence that any of that existed at all.

The bridge has been underfilled I believe, so possibly the deck still carries the road. 

The cutting beyond has been filled back to original levels and houses built up. 

As for Bagthorpe junction itself, it stood on a massive embankment which has been completely removed down to original ground level, leaving a low retaining wall as the only remnant of the Valley Road bridge abutment.

What I, as a child, thought of as permanent had already more or less gone by the time my son was born in 1980.

[DaveF]

11 hours ago, great central said:

Minor pedantry if you don't mind David? 

J5069 and 3226 might be better described as New Basford than Bagthorpe junction. 

The bridge shown is Perry Road, Bagthorpe junction is at the far end of the cutting seen through the bridge, spent many hours on those sandstone rocks in the early 60s, I was born in 1953.

They were at the rear of Basford Carriage shed, and probably now the only, even slight, evidence that any of that existed at all.

The bridge has been underfilled I believe, so possibly the deck still carries the road. 

The cutting beyond has been filled back to original levels and houses built up. 

As for Bagthorpe junction itself, it stood on a massive embankment which has been completely removed down to original ground level, leaving a low retaining wall as the only remnant of the Valley Road bridge abutment.

What I, as a child, thought of as permanent had already more or less gone by the time my son was born in 1980.

 

Thanks very much for pinpointing the locations for me.  I took the captions from the notes in Dad's photo catalogues which he must have made in the late 60s, before that I think the details were just noted on the pages of the photo albums.  At the time he had a track pass and I suspect that he wrote the album notes related more to where he started from than where he got to - he also tended to use station names only when at them.

 

The family lived in and around Nottingham until 1965 so I ought to be familiar with the locations especially as at one time we lived just off Hucknall Road! 

 

Thanks too for the notes on how it has all changed, I've just had a look at Google Earth - there isn't much left at all.  Also my old school has gone and where we lived now appears to be offices.

 

David

Edited November 25, 2022 by DaveF

[DaveF]

Some photos from the Great Eastern for this morning's replacements.  

 

I am sure the locations are right but I know I would need a map to get there now  and doubtless it will all look very different.  Some years ago I thought about going back to look at the railways in Essex again.  In the end I decided not to as it would not have been the same and might have spoilt my memories.  I know when I have been back to other places I've lived it has always been disappointing.

 

 

Margaretting Class 37 Norwich to Liverpool St in rain Oct 74 C1809  near Church Lane level crossing

 

 

Margaretting 306073 Liverpool St to Chelmsford  rain March 75 C1905 near Church Lane level crossing

 

 

Harold Wood 308161 Clacton to Liverpool St 13th June 76 C2786

 

 

 Harold Wood 47091 up continental goods 13th June 76 C2788

 

 

Harold Wood Class 307 Liverpool St to Southend Victoria 13th June 76 C2789

 

 

David

[lmsforever]

Agree about not going back to places years after you lived there ,nowadays  places are built up full of traffic and you wonder why you actually lived there .

[mullie]

I go back to Essex occasionally including Ingatestone and the Essex Coast. It seems to be much busier, there are places that haven't changed, simply because so much is farmland. The railways have certainly changed, whilst they might be more efficient, to me they are not as interesting and the seats are more uncomfortable. 

 

Today's Essex photos bring back loads of memories.

 

Martyn 

[Market65]

Good evening, David. Those replacement photo’s of the Great Eastern are fascinating, and the first one of Margaretting, with a class 37 on a Norwich to Liverpool Street express, in the rain, in October, 1974, near to Church Lane level crossing, is full of atmosphere, with one the GEML’s iconic diesels, the 37, looking quite imposing from the low level the photo’ was taken from.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[DaveF]

Today has been a "bit" busier than I expected.  Having had a very pleasant day out, getting home in time for a cup of tea and to put these photos on I found a matter concerning guttering at Mum's flat and the neighbour's still hadn't been properly fixed so had to go and chase that up which took some time.

 

Today's photos were taken in Austria, around Innsbruck and Zell am See when Mum and Dad were on holiday there in 1989.  I've included the shot of Mum as it also shows the interior of an Austrian coach.  Most of us only take photos of the outside of trains

 

 

Pat loading film on OBB train near Zell am See Sept 89 J10230

 

 

Zell am See 2092 002 shunting Sept 89 J10259

 

 

Lans Sistrans    Innsbruck tram 40 Sept 89 J10353

 

 

Innsbruck Westbahnhof  Haltstelle tram 52 Sept 89 J10462

 

 

Innsbruck Westbahnhof Sept 89 J10474

 

 

Innsbruck Westbahnhof 1044 094 and Class 1042 at rear Innsbruck to Munchen Sept 89 J10489

 

 

David

Edited November 25, 2022 by DaveF

[Market65]

Good evening, again, David, and I’m glad you are safely back home. The photo’s of Austria, from around Innsbruck and Zell am See, in September, 1989, are so atmospheric and show much of interest. That first photo’ with your Mum in it is a lovely shot, as your Mum loads her camera. And in J10474, of the station at Innsbruck Westbahnhof, your Dad has captured a great shot of the station buildings.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[DaveF]

Today's replacements are from the north west of Scotland on the Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh line, specifically at Plockton and Kyle of Lochalsh.  Once again they are Dad's photos taken on holiday in the area.

 

The Plockton ones are taken looking across the water from the village.

 

 

Plockton Class 26 Kyle to Inverness Aug 73 J3323

 

 

Plockton Class 26 Kyle to Inverness Aug 73 J3324

Kyle of Lochalsh Class 24  5121 arrived on east side of station Aug 73 J3317

 

 

Kyle of Lochalsh Class 24 5121 Aug 73  J3318

 

 

Kyle of Lochalsh Class 24 5121 awaiting departure  Note open wagon next to loco Aug 73  J3320

 

 

Kyle of Lochalsh from ferry Aug 73 J3322

 

 

David

[lmsforever]

Smashing pics my favourite part of the world more of these please ,  your contributions are great reminders of what we all enjoyed  thanks.

[BernardTPM]

That's a great selection of a very modelable location, thanks Dave. Taken a little later (1979), this old hut appears to have once been part of the superstructure of an old ship. I think it is part of the grouping between the single van and long row of vans seen in J3317.

 

 

[hexagon789]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

Today's replacements are from the north west of Scotland on the Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh line, specifically at Plockton and Kyle of Lochalsh.  Once again they are Dad's photos taken on holiday in the area.

 

The Plockton ones are taken looking across the water from the village.

 

 

Plockton Class 26 Kyle to Inverness Aug 73 J3323

 

 

Plockton Class 26 Kyle to Inverness Aug 73 J3324

Kyle of Lochalsh Class 24  5121 arrived on east side of station Aug 73 J3317

 

 

Kyle of Lochalsh Class 24 5121 Aug 73  J3318

 

 

Kyle of Lochalsh Class 24 5121 awaiting departure  Note open wagon next to loco Aug 73  J3320

 

 

Kyle of Lochalsh from ferry Aug 73 J3322

 

 

David

That's a superb set of photos there, J3323 is especially picturesque.

 

I always think the Kyle Line doesn't get quite the attention it deserves - personally I think it's mote scenic than the significantly more popular (to tourists at least) West Highland and West Highland Extension.

[DaveF]

Some local trains in Newcastle this afternoon.

 

 

Newcastle Class 143 on High Level Bridge Nov 87 J9397

 

 

Newcastle 156436 ecs  27th Oct 88 C11582

 

 

Newcastle 143324 16th Aug 89 C13852 Newcastle to Sunderland

 

 

Newcastle QE2 Metro Bridge with Metro and King Edward bridge 18th Nov 89 C13864

 

 

Newcastle 143617 Newcastle to Hexham 8th May 90 C15459  leaving over the High Level bridge, it will turn right at Gateshead and go past the former loco sheds to reach the Carlisle line.

 

 

David