Bachmann 2015/16 Speculation ... or Divination 101 as it is known on the Hogwarts Express

[Budgie]

and the mk1 suburban coaches according to this months rail express magazine are one of bachmanns oldest toolings.

If they're going to retool these I hope they make the longer ones. That way, two longer seconds plus two driving motor coaches from the 2EPB will make a 4EPB.

[Pint of Adnams]

When will the new catalogue be available - on the launch date or sometime afterwards? And will Bachmann respond to the direct plea made to their marketing people last year for the catalogue and product descriptions to include running numbers?? And whilst I'm on one, where is the ever-so-useful previous products listing - the link on the Bachmann website goes nowhere

[Joseph_Pestell]

If they're going to retool these I hope they make the longer ones. That way, two longer seconds plus two driving motor coaches from the 2EPB will make a 4EPB.

 

Well almost. The buffering arrangements are not the same.

[Legend]

When will the new catalogue be available - on the launch date or sometime afterwards? And will Bachmann respond to the direct plea made to their marketing people last year for the catalogue and product descriptions to include running numbers?? And whilst I'm on one, where is the ever-so-useful previous products listing - the link on the Bachmann website goes nowhere

I got a note saying catalogues will or be sent out with the next Collectors Cub magazine, so probably mid March.

[Unknown Warrior]

THe 89 is dumped at barrow hill no activity seen in or around it.

To use the word "dumped" is emotive and wide of the mark. Fortunately wolf 27's link sets the record straight!

[wombatofludham]

Much as I dislike the 89 (freak one off, technological dead end, distinctly lemon scented reliability and ugly styling) as a member of the AC Loco Group I know through the group's regular updates on the website and in AC Lines that work has been underway on it for a few years, with a lot of work going into restoring the electrics including traction motors and field converters, some of which has been going on off site.  It is most definitely not dumped.

 

Never will understand the vehement hatred some enthusiasts seem to have for electric traction, electric trains have been around longer than diesels and are a fact of life, and as such should be preserved - although personally I wouldn't have missed 89001...

[Guest]

Much as I dislike the 89 (freak one off, technological dead end, distinctly lemon scented reliability and ugly styling) as a member of the AC Loco Group I know through the group's regular updates on the website and in AC Lines that work has been underway on it for a few years, with a lot of work going into restoring the electrics including traction motors and field converters, some of which has been going on off site.  It is most definitely not dumped.

 

Never will understand the vehement hatred some enthusiasts seem to have for electric traction, electric trains have been around longer than diesels and are a fact of life, and as such should be preserved - although personally I wouldn't have missed 89001...

I have nothing against the electrics, in fact I find they provide a nice alternative to the predominantly steam dominated preserved scene.

 

There's just one issue I have with them: No heritage railway uses 3rd rail, or OHLE, or electric trains altogether in that respect. As a result, electrics are heavily restricted in terms of where they can go under their own power. 

The preserved AC's are part of the heritage scene, yet no heritage line can run them. So they're only of use on the mainline, and even then they're restricted to routes compatible with their method of power pick-up.

 

In that respect, has it ever been considered to convert an AC locomotive to pure diesel power while retaining the same aesthetics to allow a much larger route availability?

 

Apologies - 

[Black 5 Bear]

Rather than to announce further new releases that we probably won't see for 3 years, would it not be more prudent to provide an update on the delivery of the Stanier 5MT, 24(1) etc etc ????

[Roy P]

got a note saying catalogues will or be sent out with the next Collectors Cub magazine, so probably mid March.

"If you don't want to know the results - Look away now!"

 

In the good old days, I'd like to pick up the catalogues from a local shop and see if I could resist looking through it until I'd got home and sat down with a cuppa and optional jaffa cake.

With the news now available online perhaps two clear weeks before my catalogue arrives from the BCC, How long will I be able to go about my business with my fingers in my ears going la-la-la-la.

 

RP

[Dunsignalling]

"If you don't want to know the results - Look away now!"

 

In the good old days, I'd like to pick up the catalogues from a local shop and see if I could resist looking through it until I'd got home and sat down with a cuppa and optional jaffa cake.

With the news now available online perhaps two clear weeks before my catalogue arrives from the BCC, How long will I be able to go about my business with my fingers in my ears going la-la-la-la.

 

RP

I never knew Jaffa Cakes were optional............   

 

John

[Roy P]

I never knew Jaffa Cakes were optional............   

 

John

When you see them, don't delay! When they're gone - they're gone.

 

RP

[locoholic]

I wonder whether Bachmann will do the early metal Speedfreight containers that they did in N gauge a couple of years back, especially as I've managed to get hold of a few of the old Trix ones.

[OOgaugeJaf]

Excuse my stupidity but I can't find any reference to this online... do you have any further information?

[25901]

I have nothing against the electrics, in fact I find they provide a nice alternative to the predominantly steam dominated preserved scene.

 

There's just one issue I have with them: No heritage railway uses 3rd rail, or OHLE, or electric trains altogether in that respect. As a result, electrics are heavily restricted in terms of where they can go under their own power. 

The preserved AC's are part of the heritage scene, yet no heritage line can run them. So they're only of use on the mainline, and even then they're restricted to routes compatible with their method of power pick-up.

 

And there are plenty of 100mph preserved railways for all the 47/50/52 and 55 never mind some of the Big Fours express loco's that have been saved

[ThaneofFife]

Old, yes. One of the oldest, no.

If age of original tooling has anything to do with when a model gets a makeover, the LMS Period 1 corridors and the GW Collett corridors are both much older, dating back to Mainline. The Bulleid stock must be much the same tooling age as the Mk1 non-corridors. Rail Express specialises in the diesel and electric era so tends to ignore earlier stuff as of no interest to their readers.

should of known that every little word here will not escape full scrutiny.........the additional info is bound to be helpful to some but...........I'm going for a cup of tea.   

[south_tyne]

 

Excuse my stupidity but I can't find any reference to this online... do you have any further information?

Thanks!

[brushman47544]

And there are plenty of 100mph preserved railways

 

Arguably in view of Beeching and Serpel, all the existing rail network has been "preserved".

[GordonC]

I have nothing against the electrics, in fact I find they provide a nice alternative to the predominantly steam dominated preserved scene.

 

There's just one issue I have with them: No heritage railway uses 3rd rail, or OHLE, or electric trains altogether in that respect. As a result, electrics are heavily restricted in terms of where they can go under their own power. 

The preserved AC's are part of the heritage scene, yet no heritage line can run them. So they're only of use on the mainline, and even then they're restricted to routes compatible with their method of power pick-up.

 

In that respect, has it ever been considered to convert an AC locomotive to pure diesel power while retaining the same aesthetics to allow a much larger route availability?

 

Apologies - 

 

I doubt any preserved line will ever have a 3rd rail or OHLE due to the cost and safety considerations

 

Aren't 9F's banned by Network Rail due to their wheel arrangement. They're pretty big and powerful locos to be restricted to the light duties on preserved lines, does that mean they should maybe lose a wheel or be modified in such a way that they can be used more widely?

 

The AC electrics are historically significant and I would certainly much rather see them in original condition (albeit rarely on the mainline) than be given a small diesel engine to spend their days chugging up and down preserved lines at 25mph

[Jenny Emily]

I thought 9Fs are restricted because the flangeless wheels have a habit of disagreeing with modern pointwork on the mainline rather than anything else?

[PenrithBeacon]

I doubt any preserved line will ever have a 3rd rail or OHLE due to the cost and safety considerations

 

...

They could convert emus to battery electric though and have dummy third rail. Are there any preserved lines that had third rail (apart that is from the Bluebell).

 

Regards

[Jenny Emily]

Didn't one of the repatriated class 77s get run on batteries? I seem to recall it being mentioned, possibly in the late 1980s when one was at the museum at the former Manchester Liverpool Road site?

[luke_stevens]

Didn't one of the repatriated class 77s get run on batteries? I seem to recall it being mentioned, possibly in the late 1980s when one was at the museum at the former Manchester Liverpool Road site?

I remember having a conversation with Charlie of DCckits when there was an exhibition at Waterloo station in NetworkSE days that they could run a 71 using 73 pickup. Could there have been something similar happening?

 

Luke

[GordonC]

I remember having a conversation with Charlie of DCckits when there was an exhibition at Waterloo station in NetworkSE days that they could run a 71 using 73 pickup. Could there have been something similar happening?

 

Luke

 

Think we've wandered completely off topic ... but I am curious - why would using a Class 73 pickup help? Would the 71 not have its own 3rd rail shoes?

[wombatofludham]

I wonder if Luke means the Class 77, which I do recall seeing at Waterloo in NS livery one Network Day (I think I might have a photo of it somewhere).  Like you say the 71 had shoes and did run in preservation on the mainline on it's own so wasn't in need of a jump start by a 73.

[jonathan452]

RE: Mk1 suburbans.

If they're going to retool these I hope they make the longer ones. That way, two longer seconds plus two driving motor coaches from the 2EPB will make a 4EPB.

But the longer ones won't fit around the Hotel Curve!