Ben04uk Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Fabulous photo of Ipswich Docks - all those 12T Vanfits! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2014 da Bottesford West Junction 47370 eastbound oil April 77 C3276.jpg Bottesford West Junction 47370 eastbound oil April 77 C3276 Nice to see a photo of "Pinky" - did they ever work in multiple I wonder... I've never see photos of them together ("Perky" was 47379). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 If you rode on a 105 you were rattled to pieces I went from Norwich to Great Yarmouth in one and whilst waiting to start every window frame rattled as did every part of the seats and the doors did not seem to fit. properly.Once we started the engine fumes came into the cabin and the driver seemed to be having great trouble driving the thing changing gear seemed a trial judging by the great leaps forward as we accelerated from stops.These units should have never been built and obviously were a cheapskate train to get rid of steam,whereas the Gloucesters were class did they not have a glass partition with engraving on them with comfortable seats Dr Allan praised them in his books on E Anglia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Cravens 105 units were our bread & butter at Cambridge. I absolutely love them, unlike most others on here. Around about 1964-65 ish we had a bit of a dmu re-shuffle, gaining some other 105s, which really were worse than ours. Also 101 and 104 on the Birmingham trains - now they were really bad, even I avoided power cars on them, for a short trip to Ely. Our standard fare until then was early Met-Cam (pre-101) which I did not like (seemed gloomy inside to me), Derby LtWt, Wickham (a classy 101 in my opinion, would love a model), and 105 (everywhere!). My theory is, that up till this time at least, we had had them all from new, and they had been looked after. Beyond then, the cast-offs came to us rough, and of course the general run-down of BR during the blue period started, the dmu's of course becoming older all the time. Stewart Edited September 15, 2014 by stewartingram 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Cravens 105 units were our bread & butter at Cambridge. I absolutely love them, unlike most others on here. Around about 1964-65 ish we had a bit of a dmu re-shuffle, gaining some other 105s, which really were worse than ours. Also 101 and 104 on the Birmingham trains - now they were really bad, even I avoided power cars on them, for a short trip to Ely. Our standard fare until then was early Met-Cam (pre-101) which I did not like (seemed gloomy inside to me), Derby LtWt, Wickham (a classy 101 in my opinion, would love a model), and 105 (everywhere!). My theory is, that up till this time at least, we had had them all from new, and they had been looked after. Beyond then, the cast-offs came to us rough, and of course the general run-down of BR during the blue period started, the dmu's of course becoming older all the time. Stewart A ride from Cambridge to Doncaster via the Joint line used to cure most of any desire to ride a 105. Heating on or off and windows that rattled so much you thought they were going to fall out. I'd pay a handsome penny to do it again. I seem to recall miles of 'roaring rails' too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 15, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2014 Thinking of the Cravens 105s I remember riding on them from Manchester to Derby on the Hope Valley route from time to time in the late 60s/early 70s. One day we ended up with all the luggage falling off the overhead racks onto the floor (and the pasengers' heads). David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 15, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2014 The Highland north of Inverness this evening. A mix of trains, infrastructure and a bit of landscape. Beauly Class 26 down pass to Wick and Thurso Aug 74 J3903 Invergordon harbour branch Aug 74 J3894 Near Ardgay Class 26 up goods Aug 73 J3285 Taken looking down to Dornoch Firth from the B9176 Culrain Class 26 5333 Inverness to Wick and Thurso Aug 73 J3305 Lairg Goods shed Aug 73 C1333 Lairg view north Aug 73 C1332 David 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Hi, Dave. Thanks for this evenings photo's of the Highland line. A great selection. Now, I must comment on those Cravens DMU's. Firstly, the units that were gained in the Ipswich area, were the ones that were sent through from Hull in the mid-sixties(after various line closures rendered a number redundant). Yes, they rattled and vibrated like nothing else encountered on rails! Here is an audio recording of five minutes on board a Cravens DMBS from September, 1982.http://www.mediafire.com/listen/k99z6y5gjz2od38/Nafferton_to_Driffield_-_10.9.1982,_class_105_DMU..mp3 I hope that you will find it of interest! All the best, Market65. Edited September 15, 2014 by Market65 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2014 Whilst we're on the subject of Cravens - I never called them 105's in my spotting days - do you have any photos of the Newton Heath Power twins? Formed for climbing up and down the northern reaches. I rode many of them from Blackburn, but am sorry to say, photographed very little, if any, of them, as they were the mundane workhorse of the area. At least you've gone out and captured the then mundane stuff, which is now interesting from a historical perspective. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben04uk Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 The Highland north of Inverness this evening. A mix of trains, infrastructure and a bit of landscape. bb Beauly Class 26 down pass to Wick and Thurso Aug 74 J3903.jpg Beauly Class 26 down pass to Wick and Thurso Aug 74 J3903 h Invergordon harbour branch Aug 74 J3894.jpg Invergordon harbour branch Aug 74 J3894 l Near Ardgay Class 26 up goods Aug 73 J3285.jpg Near Ardgay Class 26 up goods Aug 73 J3285 Taken looking down to Dornoch Firth from the B9176 m Culrain Class 26 5333 Inverness to Wick and Thurso Aug 73 J3305.jpg Culrain Class 26 5333 Inverness to Wick and Thurso Aug 73 J3305 o Lairg Goods shed Aug 73 C1333.jpg Lairg Goods shed Aug 73 C1333 o Lairg view north Aug 73 C1332.jpg Lairg view north Aug 73 C1332 David Fascinating to see that even as small a Goods Yard Depot as Lairg is part of the National Carriers Ltd system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted September 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2014 When I lived in Cambridge and worked late in London the train home was usually a 105. All rattles and dust. Not good news all stations Potters Bar to Cambridge. I am glad that I was not the only one to notice the sign on Lairg goods shed. I am surprised NC wanted their name associated with it. Not exactly the latest style of things! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 15, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Whilst we're on the subject of Cravens - I never called them 105's in my spotting days - do you have any photos of the Newton Heath Power twins? Formed for climbing up and down the northern reaches. I rode many of them from Blackburn, but am sorry to say, photographed very little, if any, of them, as they were the mundane workhorse of the area. At least you've gone out and captured the then mundane stuff, which is now interesting from a historical perspective. Cheers, Mick I don't have all that many photos in the north west but I will keep my eyes open for the power twins as I work through all my images - but you may have to wait for quite some time. David Edited September 15, 2014 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 16, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2014 A visit to the Isle of Wight this evening, the first of several over the coming months years. Ryde Pier Head O2 32 Bonchurch Ryde to Ventnor Aug 59 J013 Ryde Pier Head 3TIS 033 and 4VEC 043 Pier Head to Esplanade June 75 C2146 Ryde Esplanade 3TIS and 4VEC Pier Head to Shanklin June 75 C2157 Ryde Esplanade 4VEC 043 and 3TIS Pier Head to Esplanade June 75 C2155 Brading 4VEC 045 Shanklin to Pier Head, train to Shanklin on left June 75 C2153 David 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We cant have being to far apart Dave, i was their in June 75. You should have a pic of the 05 at Sandown somewhere ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 16, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2014 We cant have being to far apart Dave, i was their in June 75. You should have a pic of the 05 at Sandown somewhere ? I think I missed that, but I'll check when I get chance to. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hi, Dave. I like this evenings photo's of the Isle Of Wight. Always been interested in the Islands railways, and your photo's show some great views of the Islands railways. The first photo' shows a good view of a O2 on a train of non-corridor carriages, one of which is still in carmine finish. There is quite a contrast with the former London Underground units in the following photo's. Please keep the photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 As a little aside, someone on ebay has just sold what he claimed as the air pressure gauge from "Bonchurch"! JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Thanks for the IOW pics always enjoy any pics of this area,incidentely the 4vec units when owned by LT were the first train I rode on in 1948 from Newbury Park to Stratford very comfortable but dark inside .The steam service was amazing and shifted thousands of passengers shame they cut the island network it is needed now as the cars are overrunning the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 That photo c7706 of 08844 shows something you don't see modelled very often. Of you look at the front you can see the 08 has had a 3 link hung off the draw hook for use when shunting. I know the rules stated that when you attach a loco to the train, you use the coupling of the loco to the wagon draw hook, IIRC because the loco hook was usually stronger, but the use of the 3 link for shunting must have speeded things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 You make a good point and to carry on: a few years ago a colleague and I were discussing the Co-Bos, generally derided but evidently the Barrow in Furness crews got on with them reasonably, his theory on the matter being that comparing with what went before could well give a clue as to satisfaction levels. So it all seems very much a case of whether delivered from new or replacing something worse and so on. Up here the standard fare was 114s and although the odd ones of them did tend to hunt at speed on straight sections of welded rail they were a hard act to follow. On overall condition there did appear to be wide variations between regions and even depots; I recall the endless scorn heaped upon "Midland cars" at Lincoln ie. the Derby allocated sets which worked into St. Marks and sometimes onwards towards Cleethorpes I remember boarding a recently transferred in 120 from the western region at Nottingham. It ran like a well oiled sowing machine. After 6 months or so of Etches Park 'maintenance' they rattled and shook just the same as the 104s and others that they'd replaced. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2014 A journey starting at Nottingham and traveling along the Midland line in the direction of Newark this evening - it will be continued at a future date. Nottingham 150112 ecs 10th June 89 C12015 Lowdham Class 31 x2 down oil 10th April 90 C14281 Gonalston Crossing Class 47 up freight Oct 75 C2516 Gonalston Crossing Class 104 Lincoln to Crewe Feb 76 C2630 Fiskerton Class 120 Nottingham to Lincoln St Marks Aug 69 J1824 David 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Like the Fiskerton shots the classs 104,s miht have been a bag nails but I like the cab for the some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hi, Dave. Great selection of photo's of the line to Nottingham this evening. I also like the photo' of the class 104 at Gonalston Crossing on a Lincoln to Crewe service - a good 'classic' shot of a train in the countryside. Please keep the photo's coming. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Like the Fiskerton shots the class 104,s might have been a bag nails but I like the cab for the some reason. They were a bit rough but they had the best seats (high backs and deep boingy cushions!) and the finest exhaust rasp this side of a well tuned Leyland PD3! JF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Hello. Intrigued by picture C12015 of the Sprinter (150 112) and HST. Perhaps it is the perspective, but they look very close to each other possibly even touching. AFAIK they can't couple up. Wonder if there is a story behind that picture? Excellent thread, BTW. One of those that I look for updates to each evening :-) Well worth the effort you are making to scan and upload the images. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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