Judith Edge kits

[Sandhole]

1 hour ago, Michael Edge said:

Two new kits on sale now.

Sentinel oil fired 0-6-0, Dorman Long version with low height cab.

The kit also includes parts for the normal height version supplied to GKN, this is the test etch - production ones are in brass.

Price is £75 + £4 postage

We also now have the Stone Faiveley pantograph in 4mm scale

Shown fitted to a Triang AL1.

Price of the kit is £10 + £2 postage

Is the Dorman Long loco up on your kit site yet?

[Michael Edge]

Not yet but we have some ready to go - RMweb usually gets the news first.

[St Enodoc]

9 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

We also now have the Stone Faiveley pantograph in 4mm scale

Looks good! I'll be in touch regarding a pair of those.

[Arun Sharma]

Do you have an approximate time for the 7mm S-F pantograph Mike?

[Michael Edge]

After all the recent problems with RMweb I'll post the latest kit information again.

New loco kit available now, Sentinel oil fired 0-6-0.

This is the Dorman Long version with their not quite dumb buffers, the model is a bit scruffy but this was the first test etch with quite a few problems.

The kit can also be built with a normal height cab and conventional buffers (not included) as supplied to GKN. This is the second test etch which was done in n/s (although production etches are brass), a lot cleaner but most of the  handrails weren't fitted - we didn't have enough of the "utility" ones in stock when I built it and this small loco has 36 of them....

Price is £75 + £4 postage.

Stone-Faiveley 25kv pantograph kit

Shown here fitted to a Bachmann AL5, this retains the rtr model's air motor but parts for this are included in the kit.

Price is £10 + £2 postage.

We don't have the 7mm version of this yet but it's on the way later this year.

In response to considerable interest in the one-off high sided tender which ran with LMS Compounds 933 and 936 we now have a small production run of this etch.

This is just the etch in .015" brass but the fittings are easily available from Comet or Gibson.

Price is £20 + £2 postage.

 

If anyone needs to see the missing photos from earlier let me know and I'll try to replace them.

[Tony Teague]

4 minutes ago, Michael Edge said:

After all the recent problems with RMweb I'll post the latest kit information again.

New loco kit available now, Sentinel oil fired 0-6-0.

This is the Dorman Long version with their not quite dumb buffers, the model is a bit scruffy but this was the first test etch with quite a few problems.

 

 

Boy, that is one ugly loco!

 

[Michael Edge]

Something of a speciality of ours then.....

[MJI]

4 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

After all the recent problems with RMweb I'll post the latest kit information again.

New loco kit available now, Sentinel oil fired 0-6-0.

This is the Dorman Long version with their not quite dumb buffers, the model is a bit scruffy but this was the first test etch with quite a few problems.

The kit can also be built with a normal height cab and conventional buffers (not included) as supplied to GKN. This is the second test etch which was done in n/s (although production etches are brass), a lot cleaner but most of the  handrails weren't fitted - we didn't have enough of the "utility" ones in stock when I built it and this small loco has 36 of them....

Price is £75 + £4 postage.

Stone-Faiveley 25kv pantograph kit

Shown here fitted to a Bachmann AL5, this retains the rtr model's air motor but parts for this are included in the kit.

Price is £10 + £2 postage.

We don't have the 7mm version of this yet but it's on the way later this year.

In response to considerable interest in the one-off high sided tender which ran with LMS Compounds 933 and 936 we now have a small production run of this etch.

This is just the etch in .015" brass but the fittings are easily available from Comet or Gibson.

Price is £20 + £2 postage.

 

If anyone needs to see the missing photos from earlier let me know and I'll try to replace them.

 

That looks oil fired as in injected into cylinders at high pressure, rather than for a boiler.

[Michael Edge]

No it's a steam loco, the otherwise conventional Sentinel boiler was oil fired. It was started up on diesel, then switched to heavy oil when it warmed up, one of the snags with them was that often didn't warm up sufficiently and carried on burning more expensive diesel. Provision was made for coal firing but as far as I know this wasn't tried. Eventually two of them were used to build the first 0-6-0DH locos, a more efficient way of burning diesel.

The boiler is in the cab as usual, the two cylinder power unit at the front end with water and fuel tanks in between.

[Adam]

You may think it ugly (and maybe it is), but it's perhaps the most 'Sentinel' of Sentinel's designs, something with real engineering 'personality', taking their proven tech* - the vertical boiler and high speed engines - and taking them to their logical extremes, though Mike is right, sticking a diesel engine on the frames was a more efficient result. I've always wanted model of one as soon as I learned of their existence and now I can, and will.

 

Adam

 

* You should see the Sentinel fireless (which isn't quite an accurate description, nor was the tech' proven and no, they didn't really work...).

[Steamport Southport]

The Sentinel we had at Southport was a decent engine. Could easily manage two coaches and even then wasn't working hard. Great locomotive for a shorter preserved line or heritage centre.

 

Now at Preston undergoing an overhaul.

 

https://ribblesteam.org.uk/exhibits/steam/sentinel-9373-1947-st-monans/

 

Apparently the weak points were the firebox/boiler and superheater which were prone to leaking. Maybe why they altered a few of them to diesels.

 

 

 

Jason

[Michael Edge]

Our first exhibition since December 2019 is coming up next month - Expo EM at Bracknell. If anyone wants to put in pre-orders for kits it would make our life easier, we have very little stock packed at the moment. We will also both be at the Bristol show at the end of this month with Herculaneum Dock if anyone wants to contact us there.

[Michael Edge]

Another development on the way now, replacement compensated frame for the Heljan class 14.

The frame goes together in much the same way as our kits but this one is very narrow with springs and axleboxes outside. Etched layered overlays for the outside of the gearbox and the springs/axkleboxes. This one is built for P4 with Gibson wheels and uses all the layers, for more sideplay on the centre axle the middle axleboxes can be assembled with fewer layers. There is a crack off line on the frame spacers for EM frames. The production vesion may well include moulded full thickness axleboxes as well. Etched cranks match the Gibson wheels for anyone who doesn't want to use plastic cranks.

From underneath the compensating beams can be seen with added wire straps to prevent them from flexing inwards. The frames are also marked for High Level hornblocks. Drive would be on the leading axle, trailing axle rocks under the knife edge. The frame itself, even at P4 width is actually narrow enough to fit 00 gauge wheels. The Gibson wheels are tapped 12BA and fitted with plain Romford crankpins, as is my usual practice.

Completed frame on the test track, the rods are overlapped on the crankpins to provide articulation.

The other side, brakes and guard irons stand out a long way from the frame plates. The brake cross beams are two layers of etch sandwiching wire pull rods.

The finished frame in the Heljan platform and buffer beams. The wheels supplied are from two batches, the grey ones are presumably much older and have a thicker boss on the backs, the axles supplied with them are a bit short as well. I can't check the fixing screws as I don't have the rest of the loco here but almost everything else fitted perfectly.

 

 

[ColinK]

Looks like a great improvement on the Heljan chassis which has never ran well. Doubt if I’ve got the ability to make it though.

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

You little b&gger Mike, no excuse for not finding a proper home for my Ultrascale wheels now, which I assume will fit, although you obviously haven't got any to try!.

Put me down for one please.

 

Mike.

[Michael Edge]

Depends on the crankthrow of the Ultrascale wheels, the etched cranks are 3.3mm.

[Enterprisingwestern]

Fingers crossed then!

 

Mike.

[Down_Under]

That C.14 chassis looks good Mike. Captured the size of the axle boxes well with those etches and the cranks look good too.

Put me done for a couple of those chassis.

 

James

[Waveydavey]

Hi Mike,

 

Have you had any more class 83 grill sets etched since I last asked you a year or so back? I've got a couple of Bachmann 85 bodies desperate to get shortened and begin their new lives as an 83 and an 84.

 

David

[Michael Edge]

No, they come on etches we don't run very often.

[Waveydavey]

No worries Mike. Thanks for the quick reply.

 

[Covkid]

hi Mike

Just making enquiries about a 7mm scale Janus kit please

AIUI you have produced the 4mm kit and have plans to produce the 7mm version, but it has not been announced yet. 

Is this correct please ? As my friend wishes to order one.

 

Many thanks 

[Michael Edge]

I’ve built one 7mm Janus which you will find in my workshop thread. It didn’t need much correction but I couldn’t say when we might put it into production, it will be on here though when we do. 

[Staffordshire]

   A couple of pretty poor photos of the next two 'Judith Edge' kits to be built ...

 

   Excuse  the photos, they look much better in 'OO' real life ! 

 

   On to the next ones  now .......  2 x Class 17's ..... 

[Staffordshire]

   Mike,    

 

      Any hope for the SR C14 and 15201  .....

 

       I'm running out of time !