martinC37LG Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 well i read the last sentence above as "selling our wives" glad i preordered "merl" when it was announced though They've already gone Jim! How do you think we've got this far. LOL. If anyone else wants any other flavour of current or future Bachmann Class 37, you know where we are! We want to be the single point of contact for your English Electric Type 3! Although we're not adverse to Types 1's, 2's (if it comes out in wee form), 4's or 5's! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centraltrains Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 If you're talking about 32-939DS then Derails & Rails have a pre-order price of £229 with free postage if that helps, must admit the prices vary wildly on the web but these two seem to be offering a decent price considering it comes with DCC Sound. Here are the links; http://www.derails.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1661 https://railsofsheffield.com/class-150-2-150236-arriva-trains-wales-2013-livery-JJJA30625 Don't Bachmann have some initial pricing policy so they'd have to charge a higher amount based on RRP anyway though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2018 I fear you may be disappointed Martin; see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/130437-Bachmann-class-37-merl-evans-colas-rail/&do=findComment&comment=3014678 All stock sold at Bachmann and I know several retailers have had their allocations pre-ordered by their customers; it looks to be a very popular release. Cue daft ebay prices..................................... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Don't Bachmann have some initial pricing policy so they'd have to charge a higher amount based on RRP anyway though? Yes I think they do where retailers are not permitted to discount more than 10-15% I think for a certain time period but someone else can correct me with the exact details on their pricing policies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Cue daft ebay prices..................................... Cheers, Mick Not all is lost, there are still quite a few online retailers who are accepting pre-orders at decent low prices (approx. £117) for this model thus it's not yet sold out everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Yes I think they do where retailers are not permitted to discount more than 10-15% I think for a certain time period but someone else can correct me with the exact details on their pricing policies. That's actually illegal under both UK law (Resale Prices Act 1976) and EU law (Articles 101 and 102 of the Treaty on Functioning of the EU). Suppliers cannot set a minimum resale price for their products (including setting a maximum discount from RRP), or refuse to supply a customer that resells the products at a price below the supplier's approved minimum. Including such a clause in a contract is unlawful, and if present is automatically deemed void. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2018 That's actually illegal under both UK law (Resale Prices Act 1976) and EU law (Articles 101 and 102 of the Treaty on Functioning of the EU). Suppliers cannot set a minimum resale price for their products (including setting a maximum discount from RRP), or refuse to supply a customer that resells the products at a price below the supplier's approved minimum. Including such a clause in a contract is unlawful, and if present is automatically deemed void. But presumably the dealers wish to remain handling and selling Bachmann products, and thus abide by the ruling, legally binding or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 But presumably the dealers wish to remain handling and selling Bachmann products, and thus abide by the ruling, legally binding or not. But Bachmann can't stop them. If Bachmann was to attempt to close a dealer's account, or in any way restrict their ability to buy from them, because the dealer had gone below Bachmann's recommended minimum retail price, then a) the dealer could sue for damages, and would easily win, and b) Bachmann would almost certainly be prosecuted by Trading Standards. Now, it may be that there isn't any contractual clause to that effect at all, and it's just a "gentlemen's agreement" between Bachmann and their bigger customers (who, after all, don't necessarily want to get into a price war with their rivals). That's not illegal, so long as it doesn't amount to a cartel. But it's vulnerable to being challenged by a newcomer that doesn't want to stick to the agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Having been in receipt of both the Bachmann and Graham Farish catalogues, can someone enlighten me as to what the A in the black box symbol attached to every model stands for? It's explanation is absent in the attached literature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Having been in receipt of both the Bachmann and Graham Farish catalogues, can someone enlighten me as to what the A in the black box symbol attached to every model stands for? It's explanation is absent in the attached literature.You have to be part of a discrete elite to know that secret... :-) it means the model comes with added extras ... (aka Accessory pack). Edited February 4, 2018 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted February 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2018 You have to be part of a discrete elite to know that secret... :-) it means the model comes with added extras ... (aka Accessory pack). The other name for Accessory Pack is "bits we left off to see if you could work out where they go"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2018 The other name for Accessory Pack is "bits we left off to see if you could work out where they go"! "Increased play value"! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir TophamHatt Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 car 158 £259.95 £259?! I hope it's DCC sound for that price! Might just get the old model if it's going to be stupid money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2018 https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/2740-special-edition-wagon-pack This is a Rep limited edition http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/118772-Bachmann-rep-limited-editions/?p=3066931 rather than main range. But I do wonder how Bachmann decides whether something like this should be a limited edition of some sort or main range. Bachmann has produced several triple packs of 16T minerals in the main range but there have been limited editions too from TMC and Kernow MRC at least. I would have expected these to be popular enough for the main range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 70805 now April / May !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 A couple of emails from Hattons with revised delivery schedules: Class 90 RfD Mar-Apr 2019 Western Pullman Jun-Jul 2019 Class 158 Jul-Aug 2019 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just some updates on forthcoming Bachmann loco's; Colas Class 70 70805 31-591 April/May 2018 (as stated already) Freightliner Class 70 70015 31-590 April/May 2018 Colas Class 37 Merl Evans 37099 32-789 July/August 2018 DRS Class 37 Kingmoor TMD 37688 32-392 August/September 2018 DRS Class 57 Chad Varah 57302 32-763A August/September 2018 ROG Class 37 Europhoenix 37884 32-393DS August/September 2018 DRS Class 37 Avro Vulcan 37588 30-375 January/February 2019 Freightliner Class 90 90042 32-612 March 2019 They'll probably move the release dates again in the future, was quite surprised the Freightliner Class 90 has been pushed back another year and honestly thought we would get it this year. Anyway hope this helps. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 And the BR Green 2-HAP 6061 to arrive May/June 2019. Wonder where that puts the Bulleid coaches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9402 Fredrick Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) No one bothered to mention that the J72s are pushed back to March/April of next year, found out via a Hattons email update. Edited March 5, 2018 by 9402 Fredrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 I dread to think when the Caley is pushed back to , given that the models so far mentioned were announced some time ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prtrainman Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I dread to think when the Caley is pushed back to , given that the models so far mentioned were announced some time ago Not to mention the G5 that TMC have commissioned from them. Presumably neither of these 2 commissions will appear before the GWR 94XX or the MR 0-4-4T. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2018 32-007 Dumbleton Hall due Oct/Nov 2018 35-025 94xx pannier tank Sept/Oct 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted March 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not to mention the G5 that TMC have commissioned from them. Presumably neither of these 2 commissions will appear before the GWR 94XX or the MR 0-4-4T. It is to be hoped work had already been proceeded on before announcement like they did with the LT stock. I certainly hope the commissioning parties keep an eye on it and hold them to account . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Mac Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) £259?! I hope it's DCC sound for that price! Might just get the old model if it's going to be stupid money. £306 according to latest Hattons email update.... plus still up to 18 months away.... so that could equate to further price rises before its released..... This is referring to the new 158 with sound....no doubt it’ll be a select chip as opposed to a v4..... Edited March 5, 2018 by Andy Mac Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 At least Maroon Portholes are now shown as due this summer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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