RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2021 Do we know if all the marker lights at both ends illuminate? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 20227 looks good, I have the old Lima version of it in Railfreight, really liked this livery on them and remember seeing them on MGR in Fife. Usually pairs of them, 2 blue or 1 blue and 1 Railfreight. Don't remember if I ever saw two railfreight on the Longannet MGR. I have a few 1980s loco which have been preserved which allows them to make a guest appearance on modern image layout, 20227 could fit into this although not sure what livery or condition it is at the moment. Edited February 3, 2021 by Waverley47708 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Sloth Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Erixtar1992 said: What sound file will it have? same as the whisky galore one or? If it's the sound file they played in the video, then it doesn't sound anything like the soundfile used on the W/G set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, G-BOAF said: OK, good one less model to buy. I will wait for a preservation era both-ends lighted release! you might be waiting a while for the same loco to be re-issued in a slightly different state, if it is produced. If you're never or rarely going to use it nose-first, would fitting a dummy headlight on the nose end do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, GordonC said: you might be waiting a while for the same loco to be re-issued in a slightly different state, if it is produced. If you're never or rarely going to use it nose-first, would fitting a dummy headlight on the nose end do? The loco is wired for headlights at both ends. (we know that from DRS version). So why not fit a working headlight if that's what you want? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2021 Oh wow very nice ! I’m glad I just held off on the last ones. It looks like a few new 20’s for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erixtar1992 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Super-Sloth said: If it's the sound file they played in the video, then it doesn't sound anything like the soundfile used on the W/G set. Hmm wonder if its biffos one. i dont know if its just me, but i dont think there is a properly good 20 file out there for ESU. wonder if theyve done a fresh one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stationroad Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Rails have a function list on their website https://railsofsheffield.com/products/43156/Bachmann-35-357sf-oo-gauge-class-20-0-headcode-box-20227-br-railfreight-red-stripe-diesel-locomotive-dcc-sound- Is this the same as the Biffo or Whiskey Galore projects? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 20227 is attractive, As it was in August 87, https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclass20/e2a563763 That light that seems to fascinate you all was white then, and there is a depot sticker below the number. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) This is a new tooling, so besides the lights, were there any actual inaccuracies in the recent 20/0 that needed addressing shape wise ? Edited February 3, 2021 by rob D2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, stationroad said: Rails have a function list on their website https://railsofsheffield.com/products/43156/Bachmann-35-357sf-oo-gauge-class-20-0-headcode-box-20227-br-railfreight-red-stripe-diesel-locomotive-dcc-sound- Is this the same as the Biffo or Whiskey Galore projects? Not the same as Legomanbiffo, nor the Bachmann 20172 sound fitted collector’s club model I have. Roy Edited February 3, 2021 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, rob D2 said: This is a new tooling, so besides the lights, were there any actual inaccuracies in the recent 20/0 that needed addressing shape wise ? Taper around the nose and cab roof shape are the main ones if I recall. The new tooling can also do variations the old one couldn't, like English and Scottish bufferbeam arrangements. Edited February 3, 2021 by Simon Bendall 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 20227 has peaked my interest, seen it more recently in its Railfreight livery, then the garish LUL livery. Probably cant justify one on a GWML branch line in the late 80s, but ah why not! NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, WhiteRoseRambler said: A good choice from Bachmann. Sorry if I have missed the details but do we know if the sound fitted version will have a V5 chip? Some of the latest sound offerings from Bachmann have been Zimo fitted. e.g. the 158, but others appear to be ESU. Edited February 3, 2021 by newbryford 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Simon Bendall said: Taper around the nose and cab roof shape are the main ones if I recall. The new tooling can also do variations the old one couldn't, like English and Scottish bufferbeam arrangements. Was aware of the difference in cab side window size between the Scottish and English Class 20s on disc versions but unaware of the difference between bufferbeam. Interested to find out more. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, rob D2 said: This is a new tooling, so besides the lights, were there any actual inaccuracies in the recent 20/0 that needed addressing shape wise ? As per my earlier post: “Great to see the gentler cantrail curve has migrated from the DRS version. The sharper crease of the original tooling was my least favourite part!” The caveat is I’m judging by the photos, not having seen an actual model, but I’m as convinced as I can be that the major shape error has been fixed. I’m definitely up for a couple of DRS examples. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Waverley47708 said: Was aware of the difference in cab side window size between the Scottish and English Class 20s on disc versions but unaware of the difference between bufferbeam. Interested to find out more. Scottish disc had their pipes mounted higher up the bufferbeam to help clear the snowploughs , blue star is the most obvious but so were the main reservoir and control air. In contrast, English disc had all these mounted lower down and also had no plough brackets. The Scottish arrangement became standard on the h/c box. Bachmann has tooled both. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, newbryford said: Latest sound offerings from Bachmann have been Zimo fitted. Peaks aren’t, they are Loksound v5 DCC. Roy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Erixtar1992 said: No lighting and very little room for sound installs ect. they run well and look ok though No reason for me to upgrade then! I'd only remove those and throw them in the bin. Stewart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Roy Langridge said: Peaks aren’t, they are Loksound v5 DCC. Roy Thanks - seems unusual to be swapping again. I've amended my post. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drt7uk Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Would love to see them produce one in the Metropolitan line livery currently being used for TfL excursions. I know you can get decals for it now, but I don't trust myself to do it properly. Maybe next year Bachmann? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 12 hours ago, WhiteRoseRambler said: A good choice from Bachmann. Sorry if I have missed the details but do we know if the sound fitted version will have a V5 chip? The current railfrieght and the one from the whiskies set both use a loksound 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Super-Sloth said: If it's the sound file they played in the video, then it doesn't sound anything like the soundfile used on the W/G set. I agree, the brief clip they played actully sounded pretty similar to TTS. I know its not but its deffo no the W/G soundfile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted February 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2021 Bachmann seem to mostly use ESU decoders for OO models and Zimo for N gauge. With some exceptions. The function list for the 20's posted by Rails reads like a Zimo project and that would fit with them being Plux22 sockets - the only factory sound Plux22 model so far was the 158 with a Zimo decoder. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 11 hours ago, drt7uk said: Would love to see them produce one in the Metropolitan line livery currently being used for TfL excursions. I know you can get decals for it now, but I don't trust myself to do it properly. Maybe next year Bachmann? Would make a good Collectors Club model. Weren't the London Transport Museum already considering producing a limited edition in this livery however or did that idea die? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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