RMweb Premium E100 Posted August 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 4, 2021 53 minutes ago, mdvle said: Given that yesterday's video on the Class 47 indicated that it had been started about 3 years ago if I recall correctly (and note I'm not saying that the Class 69 will take 3 years - the 69 is a much simpler project from a research and tooling perspective given the lack of variations and the current prototype design document availability) it would be a reasonable guess that the Class 69 will have similar level of detail/accuracy. As noted by others in the Class 47 thread, Bachmann apparently has decided high end detail is where the market is for them going forward. Good point on the tooling variation. Yes it certainly seems so. If I'm honest that high end detail, though expensive is what's driven me to get back into the hobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Without checking the dimensions of wheelbase etc I wonder if the new 47 and 69 will share some components. If so this will speed up the development time scales. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, AMJ said: Without checking the dimensions of wheelbase etc I wonder if the new 47 and 69 will share some components. If so this will speed up the development time scales. I would doubt it. While (per Wikipedia) the 56/69 and 47 are only 1" different in length everything else is very different - particularly given that Bachmann is now doing internal engine compartment details so that it isn't just a plain block anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, AMJ said: Without checking the dimensions of wheelbase etc I wonder if the new 47 and 69 will share some components. If so this will speed up the development time scales. As mdvle says, I also think it is unlikely. But what I do think is that if it's as feature filled as the new 47 it will be a belter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted August 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, AMJ said: Without checking the dimensions of wheelbase etc I wonder if the new 47 and 69 will share some components. If so this will speed up the development time scales. Body screws, couplings, maybe gears ? i’m not sure theres much else in common. Given Bachmann completely retooled for the HAP, instead of using the trailer of the 205 and motor coach of the EPB, (which is the same thing as a HAP) for what is marginal demand as a model.. i’d doubt they’d cut corners, especially considering what the new 47 looks like in detail. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Any idea when these will be ready to pre order? cheers craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 At a guess, the quarterly announcement before release. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted October 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) Both 69's were out today, caught sight of them but not enough time for a photo 69002 leading as it passed south of Huntingdon www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:68762/2021-10-13/detailed Edited October 13, 2021 by ruggedpeak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Well, I for one really hope they do this one: Pic is on Flickr, not mine 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, TomScrut said: Well, I for one really hope they do this one: Pic is on Flickr, not mine I liked the RTC livery and I thought it sat well on everything that carried it, but somehow the 69 doesn't suit it in my opinion. It may just be those enormous GBRf logos! Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2022 Nice, but the later Intercity style version would have suited it better. Steven B. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Steven B said: Nice, but the later Intercity style version would have suited it better. Steven B. 6 more to go! Not one has been the same yet. Edited February 18, 2022 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 hours ago, TomScrut said: Well, I for one really hope they do this one: Pic is on Flickr, not mine Me too!!! I’d prefer this over the first two models announced! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2022 This is shaping up to be a colourful fleet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 oh , that sucks . too much block colour and a scheme they never wore . Now transrail dutch would have been better 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 18, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rob D2 said: oh , that sucks . too much block colour and a scheme they never wore . Now transrail dutch would have been better To be pedantic, 69s have never worn any livery before the past year or two..... However, fingers crossed for you, there are rumours of other heritage liveries on later locos Edited February 18, 2022 by newbryford 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Actually i'm wondering if we will ever see the three shadow freight companies or EWS on a loco like this - probably not as DB still own all the rights to those brands . Cant see GB asking a competitor for permission , probably why we see BR and trainload liveries from before the sell off 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, rob D2 said: Actually i'm wondering if we will ever see the three shadow freight companies or EWS on a loco like this - probably not as DB still own all the rights to those brands . Cant see GB asking a competitor for permission , probably why we see BR and trainload liveries from before the sell off But, 37240 is in Transrail livery and is owned by Colas AFAIK. So maybe not a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, TomScrut said: But, 37240 is in Transrail livery and is owned by Colas AFAIK. So maybe not a problem? Privately owned (by Neil Boden?) and hired to Colas. Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 So it probably wasn’t colas asking DB, it was a private individual ? That’s probably the difference I’d say 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covkid Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 19 hours ago, TomScrut said: 6 more to go! Not one has been the same yet. I think it is twelve more to go Tom. I believe GBRf are going for the full sixteen as I think there are 69001-69016 in TOPS system and have read it elsewhere. I imagine there will be the usual suspects but maybe without the logos, but also a Dutch and a railfreight red stripe, even maybe the livery that those few 31/4s got - 31405 31420 31422 etc. A totally impractical livery would be black and silver like the "kerosene castle" and the Ivatts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Covkid said: think it is twelve more to go Tom. I believe GBRf are going for the full sixteen Ah right, for some reason I had 10 in my head.... 32 minutes ago, Covkid said: also a Dutch and a railfreight red stripe Dutch would be good, I wish somebody would put a 37 in it on the mainline (I know 250 is in it in Wensleydale). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 19, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Dutch would look nice to me, and a Railfreight Sector, and Grey/Red stripe, and to be subtle… just plain blue/yellow. Edited February 19, 2022 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Just got a late tip off, that it run its first revenue service tonight… ran out with the mobile…caught it on a trainload of brand new Network Rail FEAs from Dollands Moor to Eastleigh, at Purley Oaks. Edited February 20, 2022 by adb968008 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 13 hours ago, adb968008 said: ran out with the mobile…caught it on a trainload of brand new Network Rail FEAs from Dollands Moor to Eastleigh, at Purley Oaks. Was the 73 on there in case it failed with it being almost new? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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