RMweb Premium njee20 Posted October 25, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt there, looking at photos the depth of the grey looks better on the OR coach - the top of the handrail should reach into the grey, with the door handle being just above it. But I certainly don’t profess to be an expert on blue/grey, so can’t comment on shades. Edited October 25, 2018 by njee20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 In side profile from that photo above the OR coach has the better looking disguised coupling (helped a bit by the pipeworks and ETH sockets etc) - that huge black L shaped box with coupler sticking out of it slung underneath the Hornby coach looks terrible. Id rather endure the old lima bogie mounted D hoops! One point back in Oxford Rails favour LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I also prefer Oxford's rendition of BR Blue if I'm honest, I would be happy enough with these coaches but I'm not a BR Blue modeller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ngram Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 IIRC from Aves, ROD locos had their buffer beams in black not red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 26, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2018 I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt there, looking at photos the depth of the grey looks better on the OR coach - the top of the handrail should reach into the grey, with the door handle being just above it. But I certainly don’t profess to be an expert on blue/grey, so can’t comment on shades. HST and 3A had different liveries and this shows it well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 In side profile from that photo above the OR coach has the better looking disguised coupling (helped a bit by the pipeworks and ETH sockets etc) - that huge black L shaped box with coupler sticking out of it slung underneath the Hornby coach looks terrible. Id rather endure the old lima bogie mounted D hoops! One point back in Oxford Rails favour LOL. The coupler sits higher on my HST rake and using a different coupling head so doesn't hang down that far, that coach had some damage so is used for linking nem standard coupler height to a tension lock coupler. I'm not a modeller but you have to start somewhere, one of the main reasons I buy the Oxford MK3's is because of the nem close coupling and a good looking coach for the price, Hornby tension locks (D hoops) on any coach nowadays just doesn't look right, big ugly coupling and huge gap, I wish they would follow Oxford and do nem close coupling, saves me the job! I'll stick with my attempt for now, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted October 31, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2018 The coupler sits higher on my HST rake and using a different coupling head so doesn't hang down that far, that coach had some damage so is used for linking nem standard coupler height to a tension lock coupler. I'm not a modeller but you have to start somewhere, one of the main reasons I buy the Oxford MK3's is because of the nem close coupling and a good looking coach for the price, Hornby tension locks (D hoops) on any coach nowadays just doesn't look right, big ugly coupling and huge gap, I wish they would follow Oxford and do nem close coupling, saves me the job! WP_20171010_15_23_11_Pro.jpg I'll stick with my attempt for now, Hornby Couplings are so easy to overcome by using the standard coupling mount and a rigid bar, I've done it with mine. I've also done them with knuckle couplings in the middle. As for the coaches, I find it so frustrating that there isn't a correct MK3 out of any of the offerings - every manufacturer seems to have different errors but when all of them are put together....Hey Presto, there'd be a correct coach. Something is being lost in translation between the prototype and the model.....regardless of scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Hattons presently have some Ox Rail MK3A Swallow TSO & RFM versions from £23 to £27.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2018 Hattons presently have some Ox Rail MK3A Swallow TSO & RFM versions from £23 to £27.............. Sounds like a bargain... you mean £27 down to £23 :-) There was some place offering them at £15 a few weeks back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted November 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2018 I did look at using them for my HST only problem is there is no TGS at present..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) Sounds like a bargain... you mean £27 down to £23 :-) There was some place offering them at £15 a few weeks back. @ £15 each - a real bargain...... RFM = £23 TSO's = version B £26 version C £27 Edited November 1, 2018 by tractor_37260 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Reid Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Inbound blue & grey FO's Now at the warehouse....https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/mk-3a-coach-fo-br-blue-grey-m11052-or763fo001/?variant=28670482883&customer=robertrreid@btinternet.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Noticed on the B/G FO's the door steps are now partially fixed in position by their inner pin the outer pin not being fixed presumably to help retain access to the interior etc...all 4 steps being present on my examples... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted November 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2018 Noticed on the B/G FO's the door steps are now partially fixed in position by their inner pin the outer pin not being fixed presumably to help retain access to the interior etc...all 4 steps being present on my examples... Good news, I am not the best or most patient at fitting the detail parts! I am looking forward to the B/G TSO's being released, hopefully sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Without wishing to repeat (not read the whole thread) the couplings are appalling. I can live with the gap just about but their propensity to break is terrible to the point that I’m not buying any more solely for that reason. I spent hours trying to reaffix the tiny springs to the point I gave up and would happily trade my one month old buffet car for an 80s Lima equivalent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Without wishing to repeat (not read the whole thread) the couplings are appalling. I can live with the gap just about but their propensity to break is terrible to the point that I’m not buying any more solely for that reason. I spent hours trying to reaffix the tiny springs to the point I gave up and would happily trade my one month old buffet car for an 80s Lima equivalent! All 00 RTR couplings look awful. Lima's 80's HST Mk3 was about the worst of all. Oxford's should be easier to change though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Without wishing to repeat (not read the whole thread) the couplings are appalling. I can live with the gap just about but their propensity to break is terrible to the point that I’m not buying any more solely for that reason. I spent hours trying to reaffix the tiny springs to the point I gave up and would happily trade my one month old buffet car for an 80s Lima equivalent! Yes the couplings are rather delicate, but if you strip the coach and secure the small springs at each end/locating lug with a spot of glue, and also coat the CC assembly bearing faces with some powdered graphite, this will help resolve most of the issues. Replacing the supplied couplings with Roco 40270 fixed bar type will reduce the gap. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmacc Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hi What glue did you use please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hi What glue did you use please? Small spots of superglue....and Kadee Graphite Powder for the CC assembly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiddles47 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Yes the couplings are rather delicate, but if you strip the coach and secure the small springs at each end/locating lug with a spot of glue, and also coat the CC assembly bearing faces with some powdered graphite, this will help resolve most of the issues. Replacing the supplied couplings with Roco 40270 fixed bar type will reduce the gap. How well do they go round 2nd rad curves? Any buffer lock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) How well do they go round 2nd rad curves? Any buffer lock? Sorry can't help with that, no curves to run them on ATM - but perhaps someone else could advise......? Edited November 20, 2018 by tractor_37260 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) How well do they go round 2nd rad curves? Any buffer lock?Fine in my layout. My only gripe on couplings is they tense by stretching at an angle, rather than remaining straight, it’s a personal choice if you want to fix this, the solution is using Roco couplings. But to answer your question, straight out of the box with standard couplings doesn’t impair them on 2nd radius corners. Edited November 21, 2018 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiddles47 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Fine in my layout. My only gripe on couplings is they tense by stretching at an angle, rather than remaining straight, it’s a personal choice if you want to fix this, the solution is using Roco couplings. But to answer your question, straight out of the box with standard couplings doesn’t impair them on 2nd radius corners. Sorry I should've said what are they like round 2nd rad with the Roco couplings??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) Sorry I should've said what are they like round 2nd rad with the Roco couplings??? https://youtu.be/OAM3R1vILkkFine, the video above shows with Roco loop couplings, I’ve run with Roco close couplings also, though not in reverse with a DVT I should add ! Edited November 21, 2018 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_crisp Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Having a crazy moment and thinking about redoing the roof ribs. Anyone know what the size of the real ribs? Thanks Will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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