RMweb Gold farren Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2018 A MR 4-4-0 3P would be nice in the future 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 It's alright, I've already got one. Nice photo in the current Steam Railway of M741 in British Railways black. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 An LYR 2-4-2T with extended bunker and belpaire boiler perhaps? Been there ~ done the jigsaw ~ worn the tee-shirt...... Push-pull fitted..... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 London Road bits or scratched? I loved your C Class powered A Class. This is great work . It has given me all sorts of ideas for the bare bones of a Nu Cast kit I have in the bits box!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 London Road bits or scratched? I loved your C Class powered A Class. This is great work . It has given me all sorts of ideas for the bare bones of a Nu Cast kit I have in the bits box!! London Road provided me with a Belpaire 2-4-2T kit and I used the boiler, firebox and spectacle plate. Etchings for long and short bunkers plus a piece of footplate angle were added to the bottom of one of my production coach sheets. Friend PGH of this forum reduced the height of a cast dome for me in his lathe (it is seen prior to being reduced in the top picture). Even just fitting a long bunker to the Bachmann model makes a big visual difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Your idea of looking for commercial powerdrives is a great timesaver. My mate Mike Wiltshire made the point that, at my age, approaching 61, saving modelling time for the more eldritch projects is a good idea! The C Class will be going under a Craftsman Belpaire fireboxed A Class. A quick check of Sharmans book and drawings, tells me I can use the C on an old Wills Q class kit. The cost of a C being similar or less than the cost of a chassis kit , wheels and powerdrive. Over 20 years ago, I had put a first series Buhler motored chassis under a Hornby Patriot body that Mike had repainted and detailed as a Chrstmas present. Not my idea, I got it off the Rewley Road layout. Still runs perfectly now. Still with the same chassis but with a Mainline tender. I had an old K's Jubilee which had worn out. The motor was beyond saving and the wheels were the same. The beast had done some miles on my trainset!! Rails were selling new Bachmann Jubilees for under £100, the same or slightly less than the cost of wheels and powerdrive. Some judicious and gentle cutting and filing and, Bingo!!, fits like a glove. Unlike the Bachmann model, it will handle my 11 coach proprietry, converted and kitbuilt rakes without masses of slipping! It also looks like a Jubilee in my opinion 'cos it is metal and has gravitas!!! Thanks again for the ideas, Larry. Keep up the good work. Chris. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejab95 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hoping for a few more Class 150s! Would be chuffed with either London Midland or Northern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) Yep, It's called friendly banter. The other thread is full of "doom and gloom" merchants. "The hobby is dead", "everyone's old" and "no youngsters are interested" type posts. Funnily enough I've been hearing the same things since I was a youngster in the late 1970 and early 1980s. Yes it's a hobby full of old men, it always was since younger people are too busy doing other things and often return when they are a bit older. It's also the fact that some who buy Hornby don't seem to release that other manufacturers products are compatible. Jason If your modelling interests lie where mine do, Bachmann's N stands in solitary splendour. Beyond it, only interlopers like the BR standards, the Somerset & Dorset types (3F,4F,7F) the Ivatt tanks and a couple of GWR classes represent any sort of "compatibility". John Edited January 2, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Anyone reckon they'll add another loco to their 009 range? As an NG modeller myself, I'd love to see something to complement the models already in the range - something like an armoured Simplex perhaps, that could be seen on many different lines. However, given that they've only just got their first wagons out, they might hold off adding anything else until they've had a chance to see how sales go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centraltrains Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hoping for a few more Class 150s! Would be chuffed with either London Midland or Northern! Why the last 2 announcements have only been 150/2s I don't get... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 As an NG modeller myself, I'd love to see something to complement the models already in the range - something like an armoured Simplex perhaps, that could be seen on many different lines. However, given that they've only just got their first wagons out, they might hold off adding anything else until they've had a chance to see how sales go. Had a chat with people on the Bachmann stand at Warley - even pre-locos-on-sale they're delighted with how the sales have gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejab95 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Why the last 2 announcements have only been 150/2s I don't get... Yeah I'm gutted that there aren't enough 150/1s about! There are so many more liveries that could be done on them. I'm sure that one in Northern would sell really well for them, considering how quickly the FGW 150/1 and Northern 150/2 have sold out in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2018 If your modelling interests lie where mine do, Bachmann's N stands in solitary splendour. Beyond it, only interlopers like the BR standards, the Somerset & Dorset types (3F,4F,7F) the Ivatt tanks and a couple of GWR classes represent any sort of "compatibility". John Don't worry John, thee and me are going to get a huge present on Monday (well, the announcement of a huge present and by huge I do not mean 5"gauge) . Probably not a loco though.................. Phil Osopher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) As an NG modeller myself, I'd love to see something to complement the models already in the range - something like an armoured Simplex perhaps, that could be seen on many different lines. However, given that they've only just got their first wagons out, they might hold off adding anything else until they've had a chance to see how sales go. Yeah I might be getting ahead of myself by a year. I was thinking that with the wagons being released and the loco being imminent (I may have to double check that part) that the next one must surely be in the planning stages. As you say though, seeing the sales figures must be their first consideration and also with them planning to announce locomotives at a later stage in development that probably fits with no new additions this weekend. I think that Talyllyn locomotives would sell like hot cakes. They exist in preservation at a popular railway and with lots of livery variations. Also, one of the ubiquitous Hunslet 'Alice' class seen across quarries and heritage NG railways. Lots of different livery variations and opportunities there. Edited January 2, 2018 by GWR8700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I have heard of them and purchased from them and very nice they are too. Still run the Bachmann ones though as well It is very true though many modellers I know have totally no idea of the existence of many of the minor manufacturers such as SLW, Little Loco works etc. It is a difficult situation for the small suppliers advertising is expensive and eats heavily into profits, so if modellers don't use websites like RMWeb etc it is hard to get the message across. Back in the late 60s when N gauge UK modelling was born! there was a small advert in the RM 1/8 page, for \ a company called Jamie Micro Traction (or something like that). It advertised a soon to be available GWR 2-6-2T in N Gauge, the ad appeared for 3 months or so then all went quiet, I telephoned the number in the ad eventually to find out what the situation was, only to be told the project could not continue due to lack of capital which meant no more ads could be afforded. a shame really but AFAIK that's only to be expected if they only have one diesel on offer. are they adding to the product line with another new diesel (or electric?) then maybe more people will get switched onto them faster.........maybe they don't want faster though and are happy with small batch offerings. I bet theyd do a grand job of the classes 26/27 all the bells and whistles with a better and more robust lighting set up than the Heljan offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 would there really be enough money to be made to return their investment on Class 26s and 27s. there must be faults in the Heljan models but I wouldn't think enough ... and I think that as someone with 11 class 26s and 3 class 27s so I like those classes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2018 would there really be enough money to be made to return their investment on Class 26s and 27s. there must be faults in the Heljan models but I wouldn't think enough ... and I think that as someone with 11 class 26s and 3 class 27s so I like those classes I’d look at the bargain bins at Hattons as a guide, you could buy two green ones for the price of one new one being announced. They’ve been there for quite some time. Back in the 90’s the Lima 26/27 were a hard sell too. Steady, but hard. People want 26/27 but it’s not the same demand as other classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I’d look at the bargain bins at Hattons as a guide, you could buy two green ones for the price of one new one being announced. They’ve been there for quite some time. Back in the 90’s the Lima 26/27 were a hard sell too. Steady, but hard. People want 26/27 but it’s not the same demand as other classes. thats the early green Class 26/0s in there - the market for those may have been saturated for the moment when they're at £59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) would there really be enough money to be made to return their investment on Class 26s and 27s. there must be faults in the Heljan models but I wouldn't think enough ... and I think that as someone with 11 class 26s and 3 class 27s so I like those classes I agree, for any new 26/27 to sell in the numbers Bachmann require, it will have to represent a big enough improvement to make existing owners of the Heljan want to replace them. Catering for the portion of the market that is sufficiently bothered to do that might be more up SLW's street. John Edited January 3, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted January 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2018 Catering for the portion of the market that is sufficiently bothered to do that might be more up SLW's street. John While I think SLW's Class 24 is truly superb (just too early for me), I'm at the stage that I hope they don't now carry on with a 26 or 27. For as much as I'd love to see how detailed they could make this, the cost of replacing my Heljan fleet (22 x Cl26 & 6 x Cl27) would financially cripple me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I agree, for any new 26/27 to sell in the numbers Bachmann require, it will have to represent a big enough improvement to make existing owners of the Heljan want to replace them. Catering for the portion of the market that is sufficiently bothered to do that might be more up SLW's street... Where there is an existing model that is dimensionally correct, looks right overall, and has a decent standard mechanism, Bachmann have very wisely not duplicated. And generally speaking neither has the other volume producer, or the established second tier players. What gap is there between the present 26/27 from Heljan and these other producer's technique, that would enable an unarguably superior model? That's the key question for me. There very definitely are existing models that are weak enough that a current volume market producer could produce something better. Dapol are on that with a 59, Bachmann with the 90 Going after the small enhancements possible over an existing satisfactory model is small volume specialist territory, aimed at those who want the best that can be obtained commercially and are prepared to pay the premium. Although there's no reason why they shouldn't have a go at something that currently has any of no model at all, or only something deeply unsatisfactory, or a weak current model. Classes 21, 29, 30, 31, 55, DP2, 81, 91, would head my electric and diesel loco dorklist, and doubtless others could be identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_H Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I wonder if there will be much to talk about on announcement day? I just had an email saying 31-029 GWR 166 has been cancelled from production! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I’d look at the bargain bins at Hattons as a guide, you could buy two green ones for the price of one new one being announced. They’ve been there for quite some time. Back in the 90’s the Lima 26/27 were a hard sell too. Steady, but hard. People want 26/27 but it’s not the same demand as other classes. I think the problem with the Class 26 is most of the discounted ones are of Eastern Region versions before they moved to Scotland. It seems that most people want them in "Scottish" condition. I'm not an expert on them. but I think there are differences. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Hmm, We’ve had an LNWR 0-6-2t, and 0-8-0. We’ve had an MR 3F, and 0-4-4t to come We’ve had a GCR 0-6-0 and a 4-4-0 We’ve only had one L&Y 2-4-2t... an A class would be nice. I still can't make my mind up how to read the trends in Bachmann's recent releases of pre-grouping prototypes- maybe we're working through a series of LMS passenger tanks of pre-grouping origin- the L&Y 2-4-2, the Coal Tank and now the Midland 0-4-4 (Yes, I know the Coal Tank was officially a freight loco, but they saw enough passenger use to fit the logic of where I'm heading). Maybe something like a Caledonian '439' might be next up, or a Tilbury tank? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2018 I wonder if there will be much to talk about on announcement day? I just had an email saying 31-029 GWR 166 has been cancelled from production! More info here Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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