Malcolm7mm Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) as you are no doubt aware i was team leader of strangers so first a bit of info:- the spitfire was built from an airfix kit and sprayed to the period then 2 tubes were fixed on the underside of the wings nylon fishing line was secured to each end of the layout and the plane suspended horizontally between the two wires by threading through the tubes .A loop of line was then fixed to the propeller longer than the baseboard this was threaded through the bracket at the left hand side and secured to a windlass run by an electric drill this pulled the plane from one end to the other .in order to steady the plane another length of line was secured to the tail and passed through a hole om the right hand side this was used to draw the plane back for a rerun .in order to keep tension on the line two steel nuts were attached to the end of the line and dragged across the floor when the plane was flown. now as to the final ,the episode screened first was actually the last which finished on the Saturday we did not know we were in the final until Saturday evening nor did we know the final theme .this meant that we would be back at Fawley filming the next Wednesday.In the final we had 4 days to build a layout .this time all we had were bare baseboards no pre built items .i had to meet with the team on Sunday conceive a layout get some sort of plan together order supplies and get ourselves together for the start basically this meant we had been working on these two layouts for about 6 weeks .which is why i i was concerned about my garden centre Other teams had up to 5 weeks to work on the final layout alone i hope this clarifies some points Why do people assume they know stuff when patiently they do not Edited October 10, 2018 by Malcolm7mm 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Congratulations, Malcolm, you deserved your heat win! (I won't ask about the final for fear of spoiling it for us all Also i suspect you are sworn to secrecy!!) Edited October 10, 2018 by Hobby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 as you are no doubt aware i was team leader of strangers so first a bit of info:- the spitfire was built from an airfix kit and sprayed to the period then 2 tubes were fixed on the underside of the wings nylon fishing line was secured to each end of the layout and the plane suspended horizontally between the two wires by threading through the tubes .A loop of line was then fixed to the propeller longer than the baseboard this was threaded through the bracket at the left hand side and secured to a windlass run by an electric drill this pulled the plane from one end to the other .in order to steady the plane another length of line was secured to the tail and passed through a hole om the right hand side this was used to draw the plane back for a rerun .in order to keep tension on the line two steel nuts were attached to the end of the line and dragged across the floor when the plane was flown. now as to the final ,the episode screened first was actually the last which finished on the Saturday we did not know we were in the final until Saturday evening nor did we know the final theme .this meant that we would be back at Fawley filming the next Wednesday.In the final we had 4 days to build a layout .this time all we had were bare baseboards no pre built items .i had to meet with the team on Sunday conceive a layout get some sort of plan together order supplies and get ourselves together for the start basically this meant we had been working on these two layouts for about 6 weeks .which is why i i was concerned about my garden centre Other teams had up to 5 weeks to work on the final layout alone i hope this clarifies some points Why do people assume they know stuff when patiently they do not As someone who enjoys aircraft modelling I must admit I'm very tempted to nick your idea, possibly using 1/144 scale airliners to give a bit of forced perspective! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Bird Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 All in all, not a bad advert for the hobby. I thought the scratch building challenge a bit off beat but no doubt Allan Downes would have made something of it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Episode 1 repeats tonight at 7pm. My hat is safe (see page 7 of thread). Edited October 10, 2018 by eastwestdivide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 But is "normal speak" these days, if you are offended by that word I wouldn't go to most places where people gather these days. (I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong, just pointing out that it's a very commonly used word these days in all sorts of situations - I agree that it's unnecessary in that article, though) It is indeed a commonly used word, and I may have used it on occasion myself, however there was no need whatsoever to use it in that article and all it showed was the writer's inability to express her opinions any other way - And this from a so-called 'professional journalist' ? Needless to say, I did not sign up for any further articles from this person ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I watched the repat tonight and enjoyed it. There was no micley taking of railway modellers, ! agreed with the winning layout (even though I knew who it was through foolishly readcing this topic before the programme had ended !) and the other two team leaders were gracious in defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesiac Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Certainly gave off a good -non stereotypical- impression of the hobby I thought. A good bit of fun that could entice new people! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I caught the second half of the repeat yesterday, and I found it really quite enjoyable. (If I'd known it was on I might have tried to watch the whole thing). Didn't seem to be mocking the hobby or its participants, and the results were really good given the time they had to achieve them. The right team won, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Channel 5 did contact me to participate if I could bring in some more modellers. Through three local model railway clubs I did contact over 100 people but no-one was interested. I told Channel 5 what I had done in a follow up call so I was unable to help them. I was very impressed with the programme. I would like to invite them round to my flat to make the last railway joints and to ballast the track on my N gauge layout. What was running on the layout seemed almost irrelevant compared with laying the track and building the scenery. I am pleased to see more model railway programs. It reminded me of Blue Peter with Christopher Trace and Valerie Singleton. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) And this from a so-called 'professional journalist' ? I thought she was a "blogger" which is a very different beast. The 'net seems to be a wild west place where anything goes, bad language being just one part. No doubt if she was publishing an article in a magazine or paper she would tone down her language but as her blog isn't restrained by such constraints then that's what we get... She "writes as she speaks" no doubt... Many comedians are the same, stick them on TV and it's all sweetness and light, see them live and... Edit: she calls herself a journalist but I can't find any evidence of paper based articles, they all seem to be 'net based, and for independent sites, she seems to be a Formula E fan. Edited October 11, 2018 by Hobby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 As someone who enjoys aircraft modelling I must admit I'm very tempted to nick your idea, possibly using 1/144 scale airliners to give a bit of forced perspective! Having had several BBMF flypasts at Wallingford station this year, I'm tempted to add it to my Wallingford layout! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ryde-on-time Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 I had thoughts about using Corgi 1:72 Vulcan but think the weight might be a problem? That and making it travel across the 10 foot layout at an appropriate speed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 I had thoughts about using Corgi 1:72 Vulcan but think the weight might be a problem? That and making it travel across the 10 foot layout at an appropriate speed? I'd worry more about it dropping a 500 pounder on the layout. . . Operation Black Buck only needed to get one hit to render it inoperable. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Something else just ocurred to me. As noted above, most of the Strangers team were quite a bit younger than the other participants. Does this imply that the younger participants in the hobby are less likely to be part of a traditional club and more likely to be lone workers, perhaps maintaining contact with the hobby at large via the Internet? Too small a sample size to draw definitive conclusions but it does make me wonder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Most narrow gauge modellers aren't members of "clubs" either I suspect, probably the same for other specialist modellers such as Continental/US modellers. We tend to be members of "societies", though, but spread out over the whole country rather than all in one place... Makes you think where "forums" come into the equation, in many cases people are members of them but not of their local club! I suspect that the majority of modellers are not members of their local club but are members of other organisations such as forums or societies. How did the Strangers get together, i wonder, through a forum perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I had thoughts about using Corgi 1:72 Vulcan but think the weight might be a problem? That and making it travel across the 10 foot layout at an appropriate speed? Have you thought about the size of the speakers you'd need to create the appropriate sound effects? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 I'd worry more about it dropping a 500 pounder on the layout. . . Operation Black Buck only needed to get one hit to render it inoperable. . Yes, imagine all that lipstick splashing all over the place! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Yes, imagine all that lipstick splashing all over the place! Good special effect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Something else just ocurred to me. As noted above, most of the Strangers team were quite a bit younger than the other participants. Does this imply that the younger participants in the hobby are less likely to be part of a traditional club and more likely to be lone workers, perhaps maintaining contact with the hobby at large via the Internet? Too small a sample size to draw definitive conclusions but it does make me wonder. Many years ago, when I was in my late 20s I was a club member for a while, and whereas there were a couple of people younger than me, I'd say the majority were somewhat older - more like 40s - 70s. Now that age has caught up with me, I'm probably old enough to re-join now! When I was in my 30s I went to try out a photographic club for a week - I think everyone there must have been at least 20 years older than me! I've also been a member of an amateur drama group - the age range there was much more widely spread from approximately 20 to 70 - it is of course much harder to put on a play on your own though! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 How did the Strangers get together, i wonder, through a forum perhaps? I think one of the members of Strangers has mentioned earlier that the production company put them together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted October 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2018 It is indeed a commonly used word, and I may have used it on occasion myself, however there was no need whatsoever to use it in that article and all it showed was the writer's inability to express her opinions any other way - And this from a so-called 'professional journalist' ? Needless to say, I did not sign up for any further articles from this person !Billy Connolly explained it all. WARNING contains bad language. Search you tube for "Billy Connolly f off" WARNING contains bad language Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I see that the second episode of the programme is on tomorrow evening and it's the 'critics' choice' in the ST Culture magazine again. Where did that week go? Probably wasted much of it reading this forum thread. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Model Centre Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Not sure if this has been mentioned, I may have missed a post or two. When I was setting our Planner to record the series, I noticed that it says "S1. Ep.1". That makes me think that there will be another series. Having watched the re-run last night, I would have to say there are plenty of positives to take from the programme and it has been widely discussed this week in the shop. No negatives from anyone. Looking forward to the next episode. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharris Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I liked the show more than the new series of Doctor Who* - Team Porthcawl's monsters were more convincing. * Jodie Whittaker: good; writing: pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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