RMweb Gold Darius43 Posted February 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2 Oh, how I abhor disgusting shelves… Cheers Darius 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post jjb1970 Posted February 12 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 12 I have been highly critical of KR and to be frank am not a fan of the company. However, some are looking for reasons to be outraged by the company, similar to the way some search social media looking for reasons to be outraged. That's not healthy on any level and I'd suggest just letting it go. Criticise models where criticism is justified, criticise their media releases when they are embarrassingly poorly done and if you just don't like the company then avoid them. But judge the models on their merits and apply a similar criteria you'd apply to others. The Leader isn't perfect, but on balance it looks good enough for me and is at that level where I could criticise it while also deciding that overall it is good enough for me. 16 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Chris Chewter Posted March 17 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17 Snapped earlier today at Ally Pally: 15 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Hard to tell from the photo but looks like the coal is squint. That may be a good thing if it means it is removable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikcdab Posted March 17 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17 to be honest i think it looks brilliant. I can't wait. I am frustrated by those who criticise the most trivial items - "the widgets along the top are at slightly the wrong angle and this means i cannot buy the model" - yet are content to run their trains on totally underscale train set track, use budgie grit as ballast or have cavernous gaps between corridor connections. All modelling is a compromise between accuracy and the cost of production and i think this model captures the look and feel of the original excellently. 9 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 12 hours ago, Chris Chewter said: Snapped earlier today at Ally Pally: Thanks for the news. Good to see an update as I thought things were a bit quiet here recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, JSpencer said: Thanks for the news. Good to see an update as I thought things were a bit quiet here recently. It's just a painted sample of an old body shell, so its about 6/7 months old now, as it's still not attached to the chassis, which was still a problem back then which was being resolved... unfortunately not the other 25 things which are not right but hey ho... For @ikcdab If you are going to make a model make it properly... because unfortunately those who are in the know will know.. and as a modeller and a person who knows about it... and lets forget the track being 3.5mm and the body being 4mm, as that will never change... and its been accepted... plus people can re-gauge if they want to.. but if you don't do your research is it worth the price being paid. As modellers we always want more in terms of detail and correctness from spokes, to correct wheels, rivets being flush or not, missing end of the day if you don't do your research it will always be a comprise to what you give the factory to make. Plus we all model differently, most accurate wagons, carriages, locos but budgie grit for ballast and Peco code 100. And yes ok we get a model of Leader... great. But for me, and I will speak for myself the errors especially blatant ones annoy me, as its not about cost... just down to research which is available if they look. Edited March 18 by Bluebell Model Railway 6 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Bluebell Model Railway said: It's just a painted sample of an old body shell, so its about 6/7 months old now, as it's still not attached to the chassis, which was still a problem back then which was being resolved... unfortunately not the other 25 things which are not right but hey ho... Perso, I was finding KR themselves to be relatively quiet but as they were at the show over the weekend, it was good to hear something about them. Despite it's flaws, I am tempted to order a second leader.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, JSpencer said: Despite it's flaws, I am tempted to order a second leader.... or even the whole class? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 54 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: or even the whole class? Well 1 and 2 almost built and a third half built lol sounds like my workbench after I brought one lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Spoke to them and they said delivery expected within the next two months. Ray 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: or even the whole class? Yeah I could do a layout with only Bulleids like as if he became chief mechanical engineer of BR. And thus it came to be for the whole of BR was full with Bulleid diesels, Bulleid Electrics, the west countries growing to cover all regions, the merchant navies on all the mainlines, the Q1s covering all freights, but even all of those would bow before the Leaders.... (Edit : F*in autocorrect) Edited March 18 by JSpencer 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted March 18 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18 26 minutes ago, JSpencer said: Yeah I could do a layout with only Bullieds like as if he became chief mechanical engineer of BR. And thus it came to be for the whole of BR was full with Bullied diesels, Bullied Electrics, the west countries growing to cover all regions, the merchant navies on all the mainlines, the Q1s covering all freights, but even all of those would bow before the Leaders.... There were no "Bullied's" ... 2 3 1 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
On30runner Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 18/03/2024 at 18:23, Graham_Muz said: There were no "Bullied's" ... reminds me of a "Railway World" cartoon of a sad looking pacific surrounded by captions saying things like "stop slipping", "get a hold of it", "call the fire brigade" etc. the punchline was "a bullied pacific" 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 7 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 7 I must admit I am guilty of the Bullied/Bulleid thing, even though his designs are the main reason for my interest in the Southern. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 40 minutes ago, jjb1970 said: I must admit I am guilty of the Bullied/Bulleid thing, even though his designs are the main reason for my interest in the Southern. If I'm typing on the phone, autocorrect doesn't like "Bulleid" and changes it to "Bullied" if i don't keep an eye on it before posting. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Yes slips in unfortunately, most of my devices have now learnt what I generally mean which is an achievement, usually I have no idea what I mean anyway.😄 KR certainly has gone quiet in recent months, Facebook, newsletters.... I keep expecting to see the arrival date slip even more. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 4 hours ago, Bluebell Model Railway said: .…KR certainly has gone quiet in recent months, Facebook, newsletters.... I keep expecting to see the arrival date slip even more. By coincidence, I have just received their Spring newsletter via email. In it there are updates on Leader, predominantly concerning electrickary stuff but also explaining the dearth of communications. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) On 07/05/2024 at 16:28, Deeps said: By coincidence, I have just received their Spring newsletter via email. In it there are updates on Leader, predominantly concerning electrickary stuff but also explaining the dearth of communications. Yea I just saw that lol typical again some of those photos in the newsletter are months old... like December / January, little news the DCC plug has changed to Plux22, still 2nd Quarter... which we are already in almost in the middle of so... still an update but nothing more than I already knew. Still fears on how correct it will be, as I still till this day not seen one properly assembled with a body shell clipped down, probably due to that Dcc chip issue.. So the painted body shells, are from around mid January. Chassis blocks/bogie towers were done in November/December 2023 Edited May 9 by Bluebell Model Railway 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 (edited) Me too. Upgrade from 21pin to Plux 22, new board designed by ESU with built in stay alive. Chip now kept well away from the motor to avoid over heating (can't say I have ever suffered that, Anyway....). They have been too busy with production to send letters and to be honest, I agree with their reasons. The important thing is to get decent models on the layout afterall. 4DD to follow. Edited May 7 by JSpencer 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wass Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I now wait for my 4DD and the Leader I have sent for them both. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 58 minutes ago, John Wass said: I now wait for my 4DD and the Leader I have sent for them both. and the Clayton and the Shay. I suspect the Shay will be the next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUCKOO LINE Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 According to Rails Facebook, now gone into production and delivery before end of year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted May 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 14 (edited) Yep was going to say Rails reporting Leader end of year with 4DD following . Don't seem to be updating their website . Last newsletter 36 seems to date from July 22 Edited May 14 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, CUCKOO LINE said: According to Rails Facebook, now gone into production and delivery before end of year They have been in production since November... unfortunately KRs late decision to change bits a long the way and not have right information on decorations.. has certainly delayed it... I don't expect it in Q2... may Q3/4. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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