Matt Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Guys, great to see the lengths you are going to. Just a thought… the large diesels I have from another manufacturer that have frame mounted cam coupling mechanisms all cause derailments on certain trains - this seems to really show up when hauling longish takes of bogie wagons (e.g. TEAs) whilst ok with short wheelbase wagons. My analysis is that the swing needed on the longer wagons puts the cam far out one way as enters the corner but as the wagons progress into the corner the coupling wants to swap sides but can’t due to the coupling cam being unable to pass centre with the weight of the train on it. I have modified some by filing bits of the cam off and lubricating. Thought worth sharing so you can verify that your definitive model of this class isn’t similarly afflicted! M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Matt, cam coupling mounts allow a more realistic space between stock but were never intended to be used with tension lock couplers. If you are using a solid coupling like the Roco close couplers and you still have a problem then the manufacturer has messed up. If not, try some. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 21 hours ago, ellocoloco said: Matt, cam coupling mounts allow a more realistic space between stock but were never intended to be used with tension lock couplers. If you are using a solid coupling like the Roco close couplers and you still have a problem then the manufacturer has messed up. If not, try some. Prob should have clarified - I use Kadee couplers and have this issue. Realise this is not a fixed coupler. But if cams not suitable for tension locks (which is what they are supplied with) then surely shouldn’t be fitted? Are many people using fixed couplings on locos? I do use them within fixed rakes but not on locos. The minor mods I’ve made to my cam fitted locos has sorted the issues. The point in the centre just needs to be less pointed (fractions of a mm off fixed it). M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 We have run the loco extensively with tension locks and not had any issues so far. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grimleygrid Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 Cavalex Class 56 painted samples - Warley preview We’re really looking forward to the Warley exhibition this weekend! We will have all four painted class 56 samples on our stand B20 to view, as well as the latest news and samples from other projects! 33 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2022 Looking very good! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PJ10 Posted November 22, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2022 Evening, There's a great deal to like about these and I'm looking forward to getting the 2 I have on order. Are the samples representative of the final models? The body grill surround looks a little "heavy" on the blue sample and I'm wondering if there are some further tweaks or fit adjustments still to be done. Some of the photos of the unpainted samples earlier in this thread seem to show a finer border to the etch. Thanks PJ10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Looking forward to seeing these in person! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PJ10 said: Evening, There's a great deal to like about these and I'm looking forward to getting the 2 I have on order. Are the samples representative of the final models? The body grill surround looks a little "heavy" on the blue sample and I'm wondering if there are some further tweaks or fit adjustments still to be done. Some of the photos of the unpainted samples earlier in this thread seem to show a finer border to the etch. Thanks PJ10 No they are not the final product, they are samples to show colour application for approval, and show tweaks done to the tooling since the EP samples. We also changed the etch design for the side grilles as we weren't happy with the old ones, however, as a first look at these new versions it is clear that they have not been reproduced correctly as per our design change, the frame has been made too thick, so will undergo further refinements prior to delivery. Edited November 22, 2022 by RBE 6 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PJ10 Posted November 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Morning RBE. Thanks for that information. PJ10 Edited November 23, 2022 by PJ10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Cavalex Class 56 - Roof fan grille mesh Ahead of Warley we wanted to show some of the detail that has been included on our forthcoming Class 56. The first Engineering Prototype samples that we received in July were reviewed and comments passed to the factory for minor tooling tweaks and refinement. One of the areas that we were not happy with was the roof fan grille mesh. The mesh for both versions were redesigned and as can be seen from the photo of the roof of the Romanian built example 56008, the new etch really enhances the model with the authentic weave as per the prototype. 16 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 24, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2022 I have a Colas 56 on order to work my log train on the in-build club layout (based on the S&C), but I'm sure I could accommodate one on Deadmans Lane heading an infrastructure train from Toton to the north via Derby - passing the RTC site on the way............ 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wairoa Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Well done Cavalex. They look smashing. I was thinking I can't afford to buy more trains. I then heard a story at my local hobby shop I believe it was. A man had his home paid off, the kids had left home and he wanted to start a model railway. He ran up a huge credit card bill of $30,000 all on model trains and refused to pay it off. All he suffered was bad credit. I ran this idea past my wife. She refuses to even think about it. A little rough of her in my humble opinion. 🙃 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted November 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2022 On 22/11/2022 at 15:54, Grimleygrid said: Cavalex Class 56 painted samples - Warley preview We’re really looking forward to the Warley exhibition this weekend! We will have all four painted class 56 samples on our stand B20 to view, as well as the latest news and samples from other projects! They look smashing. The two on the left, please! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2022 13 hours ago, newbryford said: I have a Colas 56 on order to work my log train on the in-build club layout (based on the S&C), but I'm sure I could accommodate one on Deadmans Lane heading an infrastructure train from Toton to the north via Derby - passing the RTC site on the way............ I’ll just leave this here for you The IM train failed at longbridge and I had to rescue it, the 37 lead onto the RTC as it was the DBSO at fault (the driver forgot to switch the battery charge switch on and it ran for a while before the batteries died shutting down the desk!) I can’t remember if I left the 56 in the station yard and walked back for it rather than going onto the RTC with it 10 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grimleygrid Posted November 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2022 The final teaser photo of 56008 ahead of this weekend’s Warley National Model Railway Exhibition. A lot of time and effort has been spent researching the Class 56 in order to best replicate the features and finer details of the prototype in the design of our model. As can be seen in the above photo showing the fine details that have been incorporated including; the kick plate, see-through cantrail grilles and the bogie with over 36 separately fitted detail parts alone per bogie! If you are attending the show, please visit our stand, B20, and have a look at the Class 56 samples and other projects that we have on display. 31 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) So I’ve got to admit I wasn’t like wow about the idea of a new 56… but this morning I’ve seen them in the flesh, and tbh there very good. Really crisp and neat. These are first paint samples, the 3T grey needs a bit of work but this is nice.. the colas 56 has two different cab ends following an accident swap. These and the newton chambers are the two highlights of my day so far Edited November 26, 2022 by adb968008 15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Yes the roof colour is wrong on the triple grey due to the factory not having access to the correct colour that we specified in order to get the models here on time. They went for a best match, which isn't correct. The final colour will be correct, mixed specially using a colour swatch that we will send to them to match. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Is the centre pillar between the two windscreens supposed to be narrow at the top and wide at the bottom? Is this specific to a cab variant I'm not familiar with? I don't know the prototype very well but I can't say it's something I've noticed on the real thing or the CAD/DEMU samples on the previous pages? DEMU sample Other than the grille which has already been discussed it looks stunning. Very crisp and well finished, looking forward to them. Apologies if this is a stupid question. I've never seen a 56 in real life! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) Hi Richard, the moulding hasn't changed, the windows are still parallel to each other, it's the paint application that hasn't gone quite straight giving the illusion that there is a taper. This will be fed back to the factory for the production run. Edited November 26, 2022 by RBE 6 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard w Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Brilliant, thanks for the clarification. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2022 Cavalex were kind enough to lend 56049 for a test run on Deadmans Lane. With a bit of luck, they'll let us give a good run tomorrow as well. And then I can accidentally pack it away with my stock......... 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2022 The painted samples were looking beautiful today! I was saying to Will actually, ironically the lighter grey roof on the Trainload Coal one is the ideal basis for a faded roof weathering job after a good few years in service, I’d happily have it like that...you could sell them at a premium as part-weathered 🤣 Very much looking forward to these arriving now the appetite has been whetted further! Cheers, James 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, James Makin said: The painted samples were looking beautiful today! I was saying to Will actually, ironically the lighter grey roof on the Trainload Coal one is the ideal basis for a faded roof weathering job after a good few years in service, I’d happily have it like that...you could sell them at a premium as part-weathered 🤣 Very much looking forward to these arriving now the appetite has been whetted further! Cheers, James So, you're suggesting along with DCC Sound Fitted (SF), DCC Fitted (DCC) and DCC Ready (blank), the classifications of Pristine (blank), Weathered (W) and Weathered Ready (WR)... or combinations thereof! Oi! Cavalex! One SFWR for Mr Makin please! ;) Seriously though, the models look great and hoping to get an order placed very soon once I decide suffix type (i.e. Sound or not)! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Saw these in the flesh today. Absolutely stunning - once the right livery comes along, we will be ordering several! Top job guys well done 👌 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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