Moderators Popular Post AY Mod Posted February 24, 2022 Moderators Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 Coradias and Adelantes in N & 00 Revolution Trains is offering the Class 175 ‘Coradia’ and Class 180 ‘Adelante’ units in N gauge and 00 gauge as its next multiple unit models. The 100mph Class 175s were built by Alstom in Birmingham between 1999 and 2001 and initially entered service with First North Western. The fleet comprises 11 two-car sets and 16 three-car sets, and after spells with Wales and Borders and Arriva all are now in service with Transport for Wales, operating across Wales and into the Midlands and North West England. The faster 125mph Class 180 5-car trains are designed for higher speeds and while they share many family similarities with the Coradia units they feature very differently styled aerodynamic cab ends. They were constructed for First Great Western expresses from London to South Wales and the West Country, however they were not a success and were transferred to routes to Oxford and Birmingham. Subsequently they were transferred to Grand Central, to operate between London, Bradford and Sunderland and Hull Trains. Most recently East Midlands Railway has introduced them between London St Pancras, Nottingham, Derby, Sheffield and Corby. The Revolution Trains model will feature our usual high specification including directional lighting, couplers that can transfer power and DCC control signals between cars, smooth coreless motor with pin-point axles and full interiors with saloon lighting as standard. “The Coradia and Adelante units are full of character, eye-catching and have been used widely in England and Wales,” says Revolution Trains’ Mike Hale. “We think they are exactly the kind of interesting, but niche, model that our customers will like.” “Both these trains are interesting in different ways,” adds Revolution’s Ben Ando. “The 175 has been a stalwart in the English West Midlands, North West or Wales since the late 1990s whereas the 180 – despite its inauspicious start – has proved to be a successful and stylish train in Grand Central’s unmistakeable black and orange colours – and has seen operation on three of our busiest lines.” Revolution has been working on the Class 175 and 180 for some time, with the assistance of Alstom, Grand Central and Transport for Wales. CAD work on the N gauge version is almost complete, and the design will be upscaled to 00 in due course. Liveries have not been finalised yet, as the order book has not opened, however they are likely to include for the Class 175 original First North Western, Arriva and Transport for Wales and for the Class 180 First Great Western, First Hull trains ‘dynamic lines’, Grand Central and East Midlands Railway. “For lots of people modelling the last twenty years these units are the ‘missing link,” explains Ben. “The 175 opens up the chance to model many very appealing locations in Wales and the Marches, while the Class 180 goes every well with either First HSTs for those modelling the Great Western mainline, or the latest LNER ‘Azumas’ on the East Coast. And the 180s create new scope for modelling the present day Midland mainline too.” The N gauge model is expected to precede the 00 version by a few months and the order book, with a low EarlyBird price, is expected to open up in the next few weeks. 21 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2022 Announced this morning: http://www.revolutiontrains.com/revolution-goes-ahead-with-adelante-and-coradia/ N Gauge details here Excellent choice from Revolution. Fills a huge gap in modern ECML traction. Tom. 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 This could be expensive! I’d go for a 175 as while strictly not a WCML unit, they do run from Wales to Birmingham and Crewe. That said the 180 goes nowhere near the WCML and I would be tempted by one of those too… David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Excellent news! Will be having a 175 in First North Western livery. Cheers Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Yay! I have always said the 180 would be a good one, I will probably have a GC one in OO. The diagram on the website pretty much says it all TBH as to why these are good choices IMO. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2022 Looks like I might need to dig out some of my few pics of them in the original GW livery. (not that they are my eera or anything like that but pics can always be helpful I'm sure. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruggers Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, bmthtrains - David said: This could be expensive! I’d go for a 175 as while strictly not a WCML unit, they do run from Wales to Birmingham and Crewe. That said the 180 goes nowhere near the WCML and I would be tempted by one of those too… David First North Western had three in use from 2008-2011 (103/106/108) worked in and out of Blackpool, if that's any help. R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Yay! I have always said the 180 would be a good one, I will probably have a GC one in OO. Dependent on price I may join you. Although I'm still DC I like the idea of being able to fit a decoder without removing the body - don't know if loco manufacturers can copy this design feature. I'm guessing sometime in 2024 for these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Ruggers said: First North Western had three in use from 2008-2011 (103/106/108) worked in and out of Blackpool, if that's any help. R And it is shown on the map too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Graham108 said: Dependent on price I may join you. Although I'm still DC I like the idea of being able to fit a decoder without removing the body - don't know if loco manufacturers can copy this design feature. I'm guessing sometime in 2024 for these? Bachmann 90 is like that. I thought Accurascale were doing that with one/some of their locos too but might be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shedmaster Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Hi All, Just a line to say 175 112 ventured to Hither Green, South East London before entering traffic all those years ago. This was to do with ride quality testing on the wonky Southern Region metals, so I was informed. Pictures do exist, so that Rule No. 1 can most definately be used! Kindest Regards, Shed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, TomScrut said: Bachmann 90 is like that. I thought Accurascale were doing that with one/some of their locos too but might be wrong. Correct, all of the accurascale locomotives can be chip-fitted without body removal 2 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, bmthtrains - David said: This could be expensive! I’d go for a 175 as while strictly not a WCML unit, they do run from Wales to Birmingham and Crewe. That said the 180 goes nowhere near the WCML and I would be tempted by one of those too… David Not just as mentioned above, but they did have a brief hire period to First Transpennine Express which would have taken them along parts of the WCML (as highlighted on revolutions map). A 180 or two has also visited Oxley depot when Virgin were looking to hire 3 to replace the Pendolino written off in the Grayrigg incident - they were looked over at Oxley for a while before being leased to NXEA for the Lincoln services. In the end I think NXEA subleased them to Northern - and low and behold, after they finished with them, they returned, full circle, back to First Great Western! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2022 Oh my! i need a sit down, the first ever unit I drove with FNW was 175010 and the last train i drove with Arriva trains wales was an ECS from Piccadilly to chester with units in ATW and FNW livery now which livery to choose? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sej Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Definately having one in Arriva green! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2022 Not a surprise to see these units come out given how widespread they are. I hope they sell well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2022 Brilliant news - just as I put orange stripes on a 3D print 180 and look to masking windows on tfw 175 - time to take a new hobby --- knitting perhaps. Robert 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted February 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2022 Superb choice on the Adelante in OO guys! I look forward to buying at least one original FGW Barbie version for the later period running on my Didcot layout, with fond memories of them zooming through the Oxford curve at speed, and what a gorgeous livery! Cheers James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Very excited for this! Definitely a 175 or two for me, maybe a cheeky 180 too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raetiamann Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Great news. First time for a while that I've been excited about a new release. Could easily be tempted with both classes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 If I were them I would be pushing the idea of getting the 00 gauge model done as there will be a nice demand for them to meet and allow them to then reinvest in other tooling they are working on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtybella Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Shedmaster said: Hi All, Just a line to say 175 112 ventured to Hither Green, South East London before entering traffic all those years ago. This was to do with ride quality testing on the wonky Southern Region metals, so I was informed. Pictures do exist, so that Rule No. 1 can most definately be used! Kindest Regards, Shed. Also 175101 spent time on the Severn Valley Railway, so one in a steam era environment is realistic as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharrc20 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) You can also run TfW 175s on the Mid-Cheshire line via Northwich to allow TfW staff to retain route knowledge. 175004 did 1D79 00:32 Manchester Piccadilly to Chester and 175001 did the 1H77 04:46 Chester to Manchester Airport this morning for example. And indeed they were used on same Mid-Cheshire line when new too. The Northern Rail 180s also ran to Hazel Grove on peak-time services through Manchester to Blackpool North too. Cheers Paul Edited February 25, 2022 by pharrc20 Headcode added Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Robert Shrives said: Brilliant news - just as I put orange stripes on a 3D print 180 and look to masking windows on tfw 175 - time to take a new hobby --- knitting perhaps. Robert Are you thinking of the newly announced Bachmann DB Class 90 or possibly the Class 89? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Although - sadly - just outside my period of interest a great announcement for recent/contemporary modellers and a great spec. Wide sphere of operation too, and the 5 car 180 is the perfect model railway sized high speed train. Given the original plan when these units were ordered was for North West Trains to use them on open access operations along the West Coast Main line from places off the electrified line in the north west to London, it would be a plausible Rule 1 to use them on a WCML themed layout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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