Hroth Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, melmerby said: Just to think my Windows 3 PC had 170MB and that was way above the normal for the time. I think my 386 PC might have been running Win 95 on an 80MB hard disk, my first major upgrade was to a 240MB HDD. It seemed a major increase in capacity at the time! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 When I upgraded from MS DOS to Windows 3.1, my PC at the time had a 40Mb hard drive which was only about 80% full when I replaced the PC for one with a dvd drive and speakers! Anyone remember Encarta and web page directories? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimC Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Neil P said: Perhaps taking regular backups rather than relying on the hosting provider to do it would be a good idea in future? Easier said than done when it comes to terabytes, even low terabytes of data over long distance links. And in some circumstances a regular on line backup may even be enough line data to affect the hosting costs. Also restore times over the wire may be horrendous. I recall one disaster recovery I had to do over WAN links which took over a week to get everything back. Feel for the guys, been there more than once, got the T shirts. Its something I wonder about with RAID5. The chances of two separate failures may be tiny, but when all the disks are identical and from the same batch maybe they aren't as tiny as one might hope. Edited March 31, 2022 by JimC 5 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Good evening Andy, As you well know, computers, websites and the like are a total mystery to me. It's thus that I say I admire your expertise and fortitude in being able to bring RMweb back on line. So, thanks for all your hard work and diligence. Regards, Tony. 3 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM42 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Good to be back. Now where did I leave my avatar? Maybe it's time for a new one. Thanks for all the hard work in getting us back on line. Andy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I remember when I upgraded my win 95 machine to a ginormous 2Mb hdd.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AY Mod Posted March 31, 2022 Author Moderators Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 27 minutes ago, Neil P said: Perhaps taking regular backups rather than relying on the hosting provider to do it would be a good idea in future? As Jim has covered it's not practical unless there was a permanent pipe. 28 minutes ago, Neil P said: are the RMWeb team taking any responsibility for the failure and loss of service or is it just a case of blaming it on Dediserve? Yes, I could have got more strident with them sooner. Yes, I could have cancelled a week's leave to move the migration on at the earliest opportunity. Hindsight, eh? 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thanks for the hard work, Andy. RMWeb has been sorely missed. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thanks for all your hard work. Pity about the pictures as some very useful stuff has disappeared, although looking at my attachments it seems to be random. Personally I have never trusted cloud computing and anything of mine regarded as important or of potential future use is saved twice away from any of my computers. I appreciate that isn't always possible with something of the scale of Rmweb but some very salutary lessons were learned in the early days of office computing. 1 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 Welcome back Andy ….. and can I please add my thanks for all you have done in dealing with the dreadful mess. It’s been tough without RMWeb!!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium maq1988 Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Personally I have never trusted cloud computing and anything of mine regarded as important or of potential future use is saved twice away from any of my computers On a business scale backups are important - but a lot of people miss just how important backups for home are as well. It's actually World Backup Day today... how fitting. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, Neil P said: I don't want to be *that* person, and I appreciate all the work the team have put in restoring the site, but are the RMWeb team taking any responsibility for the failure and loss of service or is it just a case of blaming it on Dediserve? After all, a lot of people have lost photos that they uploaded for the benefit of helping other modellers. Perhaps taking regular backups rather than relying on the hosting provider to do it would be a good idea in future? I think we need to be patient and certainly not throw stones. My thread runs to over 500 pages and I've invested many, many hours over some 7+yrs placing photos thereon, probably thousands. As is stands few can be seen and I have no idea how many will return. I have all of these photos somewhere so they can be replaced. But I will wait and see what happens. Am I pointing fingers ? Am I out of shape over it ? No. What's the point ? It's done. It's how we move forward that matters. I'm just grateful to everyone who made it possible to pick up where I left off. I think to look for a scapegoat within the Rmweb team to 'take responsibility' is grossly unfair and simply wrong to even suggest it. Bad form. Rob. 2 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Neil P Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, JimC said: Easier said than done when it comes to terabytes, even low terabytes of data over long distance links. And in some circumstances a regular on line backup may even be enough line data to affect the hosting costs. Also restore times over the wire may be horrendous. I recall one disaster recovery I had to do over WAN links which took over a week to get everything back. Feel for the guys, been there more than once, got the T shirts. Its something I wonder about with RAID5. The chances of two separate failures may be tiny, but when all the disks are identical and from the same batch maybe they aren't as tiny as one might hope. A daily incremental backup doesn't cost much more in terms of bandwidth. Everything that's been backed up has already been uploaded to the server that day, and it's probably been downloaded to people's web clients many more times. It's not just a "nice to have" if you're running a commercial website. I agree that restore times over the net can be horrendous, but it would only be required in a disaster-recovery situation, which is exactly where rmweb has ended up. Some hosting providers will let you courier magnetic or flash media to them if required. Hindsight is a great thing, and I feel sorry for the guy that's had to cancel his holiday, but someone in the organisation should have planned for this. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 Whacky Signs thread is not the same without....... well, the signs 😁 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Not Jeremy Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Well done and thank you to Andy and everyone else involved in getting RMweb back on track. Of course, I didn't miss it at all🍌 Hell, I think these new emoticons are pretty cool too👺🧥👜🍄 👙 V(virtual)UNHCR were apparently getting pretty worried about the makeshift camps of refugees in neighbouring territories, the usual problems, petty crime, lack of sanitation, wish lists, you know the sort of thing..... It is a pity about the pictures I guess, but how much worse would it have been if the pictures were there but there were no words(!) Just think of all the pointless guff we'd be missing out on! Soz, that was a bit rude. Joking apart, it has been a very strange virtual world without RMweb, it is absolutely embedded in so much of the internet. For example how many searches on numerous subjects by now return results for information that is on RMweb - many thousands I think. And then there are all the virtual friendships and conversations it facilitates, think of all the people you'd not hear from again if RMweb were to really disappear for good(!!) And the many benefits it affords all of us, model producers, publishers, modellers experienced and new, just anyone interested in the world of model railways. Mind boggling - the good things that flow from RMweb are many and varied, long may it continue. Moving on to more serious matters, whatever did happen to that nice chap and his "Electricnose"😳 Thank you for returning, really. Simon Edited April 1, 2022 by Not Jeremy additional underwear 5 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DIW Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, maq1988 said: It's actually World Backup Day today... how fitting. Trouble is, the link to Magrathea is down again... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Neil P said: I don't want to be *that* person, and I appreciate all the work the team have put in restoring the site, but are the RMWeb team taking any responsibility for the failure and loss of service or is it just a case of blaming it on Dediserve? After all, a lot of people have lost photos that they uploaded for the benefit of helping other modellers. Perhaps taking regular backups rather than relying on the hosting provider to do it would be a good idea in future? You plainly DO want to be that person. Perhaps everyone involved with RMweb should be fired? Would that be sufficient punishment for us all? Or do you want more? Of course, with no staff, RMweb would be gone, which presumably you'd be happy with too. 1 4 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Neil P Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: I think to look for a scapegoat within the Rmweb team to 'take responsibility' is grossly unfair and simply wrong to even suggest it. I'm not looking for a scapegoat. I feel sorry for the guy who had to cancel his holiday. There's been a lot of fingers pointed at Dediserve, who have clearly messed up, but I don't understand why it's wrong to suggest that the rmweb team should consider how they might have done things differently. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2022 Many thanks for the hard work Andy, I'll give it a week or two and reload those that are missing from Exhill Works, some seem to be there already ... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/world-backup-day/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Jonboy Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 The problem is you really need a mix of incremental and complete as incremental don’t always work when you hit the restore button on line databases… 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Harlequin said: It's great to be back! ......................P.S. What's a "knobber"??? A Nob, Toss Pot, Prick, Ring Piece, Cock-Womble 🤣 etc Edited March 31, 2022 by Knuckles 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 Can we have the email addresses of Dediserve's senior management, so we can express our personal appreciation of losing most of the content we've spent quite a bit of time creating? Mark 4 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
banburysaint Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Thanks for all the hard work in bringing back our escape from this increasingly odd world. As many have mentioned you don't realise the importance of something until it's not available anymore. well done and here is the future of rmweb 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted March 31, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2022 Another vote of thanks to Andy and the team for getting things up and running again. Adrian 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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