Oliver Rails Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) NEW ANNOUNCEMENT Sonic Models have today announced their next N gauge model. The Newton Chambers Car Transporter Triple Packs Available in both the Eastern Region BR Maroon and BR Motorail Blue/Grey liveries. There are six packs available to pre-order in total, three in BR maroon and three in BR Blue/Grey. Each car in each pack features a unique running number. Other features include: Fully detailed prototypical bodies including original and later style roof sky lights NEM Couplings combined with a kinematic close coupling system Ends with buffer beam original detail and later ETH equipment Correct size RP 25 profile bogie wheels Livery schemes for BR Maroon and BR Blue Grey Models supplied in sets of three in a bespoke box The packs are available to pre-order exclusively from Rails of Sheffield. PRE-ORDER HERE Each triple pack is priced at just £124.95 You can pre-order now with a £25 deposit. The models are currently in production and delivery is expected late 2023. History Originally designated as TCVs, the vehicles later became NVV (vacuum braked) and NVX (dual braked) under BR’s TOPS computer system. Unusually, they featured a hydraulically operated central well capable of storing two cars as well as four cars on the upper deck – a 50% increase in capacity over more conventional car carrying vehicles of the time. When introduced in the early-1960s, the TCV car transporters were used between London, York and Edinburgh in sets of five or six vehicles with a handful of BR maroon Mk1 coaches, hauled by ex-LNER ‘Pacifics’ and later BR green ‘Deltics’, Class 40s, 45s, 46s or 47s. From the late-1960s onwards, they were painted in BR blue/grey and started to venture further afield on ‘Motorail’ services from London and northern England to the West of England, being hauled by Class 45s, 46s, 47s and ‘Westerns’. However, they were closely associated with the East Coast Main Line throughout their career. Edited April 27, 2023 by Oliver Rails Word correction 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) A recent Rails email announces that Sonic are to produce the Newton Chambers car carriers in N Gauge. Available in packs of three in both maroon and blue/grey. Personally, I'm over the moon and will take six for the Anglo-Scottish Car Carrier, Perth-King's Cross (Holloway). Best Scott. https://railsofsheffield.com/collections/n-gauge-newton-chambers-car-transporter-packs?_kx=1RgHMA349RmAJbMizFDUkFyJe-UtY-HWSm0EEmXyWfhEPZ_JhpQgMZoANxhBTgyY.RXkVMS&utm_campaign=Sonic Car Carrier&utm_id=01GZ0TPPKY2ARQTC12BN7XV33S&utm_medium=campaign&utm_source=Klaviyo Edited April 27, 2023 by scottystitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted April 27, 2023 Moderators Share Posted April 27, 2023 Quote Available in .... BR Monorail Blue/Grey liveries. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) Sorry Andy, I've jumped Oliver's gun. More than happy for you to silence my thread. Best Scott. Edited April 27, 2023 by scottystitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2023 @Oliver Rails This is an excellent announcement, and not at all expected. Two packs ordered. Best Scott. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 They're doing this through Sonic, whereas the OO versions are by Heljan, which must mean the research and CAD effor have been duplicated. I wonder which scale will produce the better model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: They're doing this through Sonic, whereas the OO versions are by Heljan, which must mean the research and CAD effor have been duplicated. I wonder which scale will produce the better model. N - get the shape and major details right and you are onto a winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Love this. Anyone out there know a typical formation late 70s early 80s for the BlueGrey versions? Was not too successful searching in Flickr and the MR article on motorail only shows a 60s formation, no further hints es grüßt pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby_tl10 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: They're doing this through Sonic, whereas the OO versions are by Heljan, which must mean the research and CAD effor have been duplicated. Why? I don't see the correlation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) Wow, this is wonderful news! A few years ago I posted some detailed Flickr pictures of these vehicles on the Motorail thread in the vain hope that it might inspire Rapido/Revolution to make N gauge models of them, but I never imagined that it would end up being Sonic/Rails that produced them! Plus as a bonus they are quite reasonably priced for what is essentially quite a niche item. Edited April 27, 2023 by montyburns56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott B Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Padishar Creel said: Love this. Anyone out there know a typical formation late 70s early 80s for the BlueGrey versions? Was not too successful searching in Flickr and the MR article on motorail only shows a 60s formation, no further hints es grüßt pc "Generally" a pair of them with a GUV when attached to passenger services, which makes the decision to sell in triple packs strange to me, twin packs would have seen more appropriate ?. There were other formations but from memory & consultation of the appropriate carriage workings, most were in pairs. Edited April 27, 2023 by Scott B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) Plenty of discussion about prototype formations in the thread for the Heljan OO equivalent:- https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/175718-Heljan-oo-newton-chambers-car-transporter/ Edited April 27, 2023 by spamcan61 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: Plenty of discussion about prototype formations in the thread for the Heljan OO equivalent:- https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/175718-Heljan-oo-newton-chambers-car-transporter/ Thanks, if I understand the coaching numbering system, and going to another thread from the thread you quoted, BG, MK3 Sleepers, BG, GUV, NVX, NVX is possible as well. es grüßt pc Edited April 27, 2023 by Padishar Creel Changed TOPS code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) A couple of photos I have with the NC car carriers….they also occasionally worked to Olympia. I have two completed Etched pixels kits and two more to do. I will be ordering a pack of these…maybe two. The two completed ones will be at the NGS NRM York show on Kensington Olympia. https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p234657234/e5cbdfebc https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p234657234/e2239ea6e Edited April 27, 2023 by acg5324 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Scott B said: "Generally" a pair of them with a GUV when attached to passenger services, which makes the decision to sell in triple packs strange to me, twin packs would have seen more appropriate ?. There were other formations but from memory & consultation of the appropriate carriage workings, most were in pairs. Thanks for the reply, it is the coaching stock used with them I would like to know more about. es grüßt pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2023 See N Gauge Forum for some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted April 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, acg5324 said: A couple of photos I have with the NC car carriers….they also occasionally worked to Olympia. I have two completed Etched pixels kits and two more to do. I will be ordering a pack of these…maybe two. The two completed ones will be at the NGS NRM York show on Kensington Olympia. https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p234657234/e5cbdfebc https://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p234657234/e2239ea6e 1E01 was TThSo 13.25 Newton Abbot - Sheffield They were only diagrammed into Olympia for the 1969 timetable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted April 28, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Padishar Creel said: Thanks for the reply, it is the coaching stock used with them I would like to know more about. es grüßt pc Mk1 FKs plus a BFK or BSK or BSO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted April 28, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2023 9 hours ago, stovepipe said: 1E01 was TThSo 13.25 Newton Abbot - Sheffield They were only diagrammed into Olympia for the 1969 timetable. Thanks for the correction, yes I knew they worked to Olympia for just one season….but in this case rule 1 will apply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted April 28, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2023 I model 1987-1994, so these are really before my chosen period. But I really like them. I noticed a comment on a Flickr photo that the last 2 were withdrawn in 1988..... I take it they were not in general use in the last years of their life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 6 hours ago, acg5324 said: Mk1 FKs plus a BFK or BSK or BSO. So the same as if the service was using carflats? Nice, have FKs and a CJM MK2 BFK Thanks es grüßt pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted April 28, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Padishar Creel said: So the same as if the service was using carflats? Nice, have FKs and a CJM MK2 BFK Thanks es grüßt pc Yes the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted April 30, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 30, 2023 The Rail Express article (June '04) lists the following: D9021 (cl 55) + 6x TCV, Mk1 GK, 2xSK, BSK (blue/maroon mix) Perth to London Holloway, 08.68) D1527 5xTCV, Mk1 FK, RBR, 2xSK, BSK (Holloway to Edinburgh 08.66) If running a shorter train, passengers from each car were allocated a compartment to themselves. One FK equals seven cars. The Newton Chambers vans initially carried six, but were later downgraded to four as the lower deck was taken out of use following several accidents. Steven B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Rails have posted some pictures of their rather nice looking 2nd EP on their website. https://railsofsheffield.com/blogs/news/n-gauge-newton-chambers-car-transporters 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Nice though they look, I can honestly say that even though they would fit my modelling era and region well, for some reason I am not the remotest bit interested in these, they just do not appeal 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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