Hroth Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 13 hours ago, GeoffBird said: What noises would one get from the loco One of the odder sounds that the loco produced was apparently a "low drone" from the booster units when the loco was stationary. The whistles might also have a unique sound. The rest of its repertoire would be similar to an equivalent EMU, though more so with 6 traction motors going at once! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Can't believe I've read the whole thread and found no mention of stay-alives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2023 Don't need them, they've got "boosters". Hat, coat... 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold C126 Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike_Walker said: Don't need them, they've got "boosters". Hat, coat... Has someone mentioned Dyna-Drives yet? Follows with own hat, coat, etc., ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Graham_Muz Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 Sorry for the apparent delay in responding, as noted by some the buffer beam on the E82005 BR Blue version should be BR Rail Blue (Railmatch 207), we are somewhat frustrated that this managed to get through the review processes. These models are currently being shipped. We are very sorry that this oversight has occurred, and we hope that this won’t detract from your enjoyment of this model of a very interesting prototype. 1 1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2023 13 hours ago, GeoffBird said: Also, ass well as a 21-pin sopcket fprDCC thetre is also a speraker inclufedc as staanard as I read it. What noises would one get from the loco and is there a sound set being produced? I confirm that there is a basic speaker fitted to the model and a 21-Pin socket. We are not aware of a suitable verified or complete sound recording hence no sound fitted versions being available. As suggested elsewhere the nearest possible starting point would be a Class 71 file. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 04/11/2023 at 10:54, number6 said: Got a big collection of images of these locos saved for reference. A couple I really like are these two: one describing the Newhaven Boat and the other showing obvious pride in the job. An interesting article and picture, the loco pictured is 20002 (obviously at a different time to the article) , rather that 20003 as per the text and is in black and aluminum. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 6, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Nova Scotian said: It wasn't speculative inaccuracies - I was asking a question. That's what the question marks were about. It was speculative and inaccurate. Sticking a question mark after something doesn't excuse it; especially when you hadn't read what's already been posted. By your thinking I could accuse you of all sorts and phrase it as a question but I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy if I did. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Joining the party a bit late but congratulations to Graham, Kernow and EFE. I am so glad that you corrected Bachmann's error with the class 70. Not only was the shape wrong, but they even portrayed it as some weird diesel in post 2000 liveries! I had been hoping for a model of a proper class 70 for a very long time. Already ordered a BR Black CC2 and at such value, I'm thinking about CC1 in either Grey or Blue. Like others, I have higher hopes now of an eventual 20003 appearing someday... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said: Sorry for the apparent delay in responding, as noted by some the buffer beam on the E82005 BR Blue version should be BR Rail Blue (Railmatch 207), we are somewhat frustrated that this managed to get through the review processes. These models are currently being shipped. We are very sorry that this oversight has occurred, and we hope that this won’t detract from your enjoyment of this model of a very interesting prototype. Graham, Just to reassure ....................... I DON'T CARE !!!!!!!! - It's an SR Booster EL in Rail Blue 🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️ Definitely something to brighten the fact that I've got to spend the next 2 days on strike despite being in total disagreement with it but can't risk breaking it because I work on a closed, nepotistic, stuck in the 1980's mind-set (workforce) little toy railway and I don't like spit in my tea 🙄 Edited November 6, 2023 by Southernman46 2 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nova Scotian Posted November 6, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, AY Mod said: It was speculative and inaccurate. Sticking a question mark after something doesn't excuse it; especially when you hadn't read what's already been posted. By your thinking I could accuse you of all sorts and phrase it as a question but I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy if I did. There was no accusation. But obviously you're touchy on this, you're a moderator and this is your trainset to play with how you please, so I'll obviously shut up. And I don't want to detract from discussions on the model, which I am following with interest. And I went back - the reason I hadn't seen it is that as the pictures load it often bumps the posts up and down as it formats them inline. I had missed Graham's post and for that I apologize. Edited November 6, 2023 by Nova Scotian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Sorry EFE! Been there, done it and got the T Shirt!! Dave. 13 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 8 hours ago, dasatcopthorne said: Sorry EFE! Been there, done it and got the T Shirt!! Dave. You are well ahead of (most of) the rest of us with the one on the right! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffBird Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, No Decorum said: You are well ahead of (most of) the rest of us with the one on the right! Very nice. These have been said to be "niche" products but I enjoyed seeing them in the 60s coming through Clapham J on he boat trains. For a "even more niche" version how about "sCC2" in BR blue in 1948 as part of the next batch? Edited November 9, 2023 by GeoffBird clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, GeoffBird said: Very nice. These have been said to be "niche" products but I enjoyed seeing them in the 60s coming through Clapham J on he boat trains. For a "even more niche" version how about "sCC2" in BR blue in 1948 as part of the next batch? sCC2 was not 'BR Bue' as we know it, in 1948, but Ultramarine Blue with silver lettering and lining... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: sCC2 was not 'BR Bue' as we know it, in 1948, but Ultramarine Blue with silver lettering and lining... Now that's a livery I'd line to see / buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: sCC2 was not 'BR Bue' as we know it, in 1948, but Ultramarine Blue with silver lettering and lining... Please lighten my darkness. ’Tis said that the only stupid question is the one not asked. Are you being very polite in repeating the “s” in front of sCC2? Is it a mistype? I can’t find sCC2 anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium viridim Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, No Decorum said: Please lighten my darkness. ’Tis said that the only stupid question is the one not asked. Are you being very polite in repeating the “s” in front of sCC2? Is it a mistype? I can’t find sCC2 anywhere? British Railways put the 's' in front of Southern Railway numbers until the locomotives were given BR numbers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, viridim said: British Railways put the 's' in front of Southern Railway numbers until the locomotives were given BR numbers. Of course, so simple. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, No Decorum said: Of course, so simple. Thank you. It's mentioned in the "The Southern Way" special No.11 about these locos - if you haven't got it it's really worth getting - re-read mine yesterday. Have now weaken and ordered the "Southern Railway" version too 🤦♂️ Edited November 9, 2023 by Southernman46 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, dasatcopthorne said: Sorry EFE! Been there, done it and got the T Shirt!! Dave. They must be over 40 years old Dave ? All the best Ray Edited November 9, 2023 by wainwright1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, No Decorum said: Please lighten my darkness. ’Tis said that the only stupid question is the one not asked. Are you being very polite in repeating the “s” in front of sCC2? Is it a mistype? I can’t find sCC2 anywhere? Both CC1 and CC2 ran for a while between 1948 and 1949 with the 's' prefix as 'sCC1' (in malachite green with 'British Railways' in sunshine font) and 'sCC2' as stated above in ultramarine blue with silver lines and lettering (in the same style as sCC1). 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Strathwood Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Graham_Muz said: Both CC1 and CC2 ran for a while between 1948 and 1949 with the 's' prefix as 'sCC1' (in malachite green with 'British Railways' in sunshine font) and 'sCC2' as stated above in ultramarine blue with silver lines and lettering (in the same style as sCC1). We have around 100+ photos of the three locos on file from a number of sources most in black & white of course, but I cannot recall seeing any shots that confirm the ultramarine blue shade or the s prefix, it would be great to know any photographic sources as we are working on a third volume of Southern Electric Scrapbook. Kevin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Right Away Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2023 Not sure if this has been mentioned before. Does any member know of the “rough” dates when the side vents on these locomotives were altered/dispensed with and why? (If they were provided on one side only, this could explain their “absence” in certain photographs.) For reference, here are two cropped images of No 20002, the lower being dated as 9th May 1959. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted November 9, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Right Away said: Not sure if this has been mentioned before. Does any member know of the “rough” dates when the side vents on these locomotives were altered/dispensed with and why? (If they were provided on one side only, this could explain their “absence” in certain photographs.) For reference, here are two cropped images of No 20002, the lower being dated as 9th May 1959. One side only Sir. Published drawings confirm this. HTH. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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