Moderators AY Mod Posted April 13 Moderators Share Posted April 13 The Heljan OO Gauge Co-Bo Returns - Exclusively at Rails! ANNOUNCEMENT: The Heljan Co-Bo is back! This iconic model, originally released in 2011, was produced exclusively for Hattons Model Railways, and is now available exclusively at Rails of Sheffield. NEW FOR 2024! For the first time these models are now available with digital sound pre-fitted. The full range includes re-runs of the most popular models as well as some new variations not covered in the range previously in BR green and BR blue. Aside from the new inclusion of DCC Sound provision, these models will also feature enhanced livery application over previous releases. PRODUCT FEATURES: ● Highly detailed model with separately fitted parts including handrails, etched grilles, underframe relief and more ● Accessory pack with optional headcode discs ● 5-pole motor with twin flywheels, all-wheel pickups & 8-wheel drive ● Heavy diecast chassis ● Directional lighting ● Digital & Sound capable - 8-pin socket [SOUND FITTED VERSIONS NEW FOR 2024] ● Intricate livery application & printing ● NEM tension lock couplings ABOUT THE CLASS 28: The British Rail Class 28 (or Metro-Vick Type 2) were a class of diesel-electric locomotives built under the diesel loco Pilot Scheme as part of the British Railways Modernisation Plan. Often referred to as 'Co-Bos', 'Metrovicks' or 'Crossleys', the class featured a highly unusual Co-Bo wheel arrangement (a 6-wheel bogie at one end, and a 4-wheel bogie at the other). Unlike other Type 2 diesels, the class were fitted with two-stroke Crossley diesel units and had a very high tractive effort of 50,000 lbf. The engines suffered frequent failures and by 1961 the entire class was handed back to the manufacturer for remedial work. They were known for being excessively noisy and emitted too much smoke. All twenty Metrovicks were initially allocated to the Midland Division of BR's London Midland Region, where they were often used in pairs on the overnight London–Glasgow "Condor" express freight service. After the 1961 refurbishment they were all transferred to the Barrow-in-Furness 12E depot. They were withdrawn after only eleven years in service. A single example has been preserved at the East Lancashire Railway. (Information provided via Wikipedia) Contact Ben Jones, UK Representative - Heljan benj@heljan.dk 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 The illustrations above shows nos 5711/18. However the Rails website shows nos 5701/03/04/07/19 as the models being produced; I assume it's the latter list that's correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Great to see these back for re-run - personally planning to get a GFYE 5707 to partner blue 5701 (w) on the never-knowingly photographed Southampton portion via the DN & S of the weekly ICI limestone train from Tunstead 😉. Just an observation - there has always seemed (to me) to be too much wheel showing below the bogie - am I correct or being fooled by the wheels being "shiny-ish", flat and devoid of detail ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 11 hours ago, AY Mod said: All twenty Metrovicks were initially allocated to the Midland Division of BR's London Midland Region, where they were often used in pairs on the overnight London–Glasgow "Condor" express freight service. ..... and, at full chat on the Midland Mainline, south of Leicester (Wigston), they were at least as, if not more, impressive than a Deltic! CJI. Edited April 13 by cctransuk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted April 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13 Hard to believe it's 13 years since the first run! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JhornG201 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I note from the specs that the lighting is directional. I’m assuming therefore that this is a straight re-run and no changes are being made so head and tail lights are independently controlled? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 20 minutes ago, JhornG201 said: I note from the specs that the lighting is directional. I’m assuming therefore that this is a straight re-run and no changes are being made so head and tail lights are independently controlled? Andy's first post shows it as being an 8-pin interface, so I would hazard a guess and say you would be correct. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom D Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Any information as to when they will be available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted April 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14 I would consider getting one if it is an upgraded model, otherwise I’ll stick with the two I have as I spent a great deal of time working on them. My blue one was carefully weathered, while the other was modified to represent one that had the proposed class 31 engine installed; it’s in Regional Railways livery 😀 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted April 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, ColinK said: I would consider getting one if it is an upgraded model 😀 According to a RoS posting over on FB the only changes from previous run are sound capability and "enhanced decoration" 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, spamcan61 said: "enhanced decoration" What does that mean - the fact that they're also doing a weathered version? I can't see any obvious changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 97406 Posted April 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14 (edited) I missed out on the last 2 runs so I deffo had to preorder a couple. One will become D5705 in its preserved condition and I’ve also gone for the banger blue one, too. 2 ‘Objects’ of desire! Edited April 14 by 97406 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted April 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14 I'm slightly surprised at them offering sound fitted while staying with the 8pin socket. Be interesting to see what speakers are used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Having missed the previous runs, I'm not making that mistake again! Just ordered two identical plain green locos. A bit unfortunate there weren't some number variations available, but renumbering will be easy on an unweathered loco. Will be converted to P4 with Kadee couplers. Thanks Rails!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 14/04/2024 at 14:53, Michael Hodgson said: What does that mean - the fact that they're also doing a weathered version? I can't see any obvious changes. FWIW, Hattons original run included weathered versions. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 12 hours ago, JSpencer said: FWIW, Hattons original run included weathered versions. Indeed, was fortunate enough to pick one up pre-loved at TrainWest in 2014 after missing the initial release due to a modelling hiatus. Wish they'd re-release the Class 23 and correct that awful headcode box Edited April 16 by Southernman46 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterfgf Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 14/04/2024 at 13:59, Kaput said: I'm slightly surprised at them offering sound fitted while staying with the 8pin socket. Be interesting to see what speakers are used. I've emailed Rails to ask what decoder will be used, who did the sound file, and which locomotive/engine was used for sound recording as I think there are no sound recordings of British Class 28s. However, Irish and Australian railways have locomotives with Crossley 2-stroke engines. Waiting expectantly for a reply! Peterfgf 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted April 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, peterfgf said: I've emailed Rails to ask what decoder will be used, who did the sound file, and which locomotive/engine was used for sound recording as I think there are no sound recordings of British Class 28s. However, Irish and Australian railways have locomotives with Crossley 2-stroke engines. Waiting expectantly for a reply! Peterfgf This would be one of those models where the premium for DCC or sound fitting is absolutely worth it. Unless they revise the tooling I found removing the body the hardest of any loco I have fitted since coming into the hobby in 2000. Limited space inside once I got in there too as I recall it . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 10 minutes ago, peterfgf said: I've emailed Rails to ask what decoder will be used, who did the sound file, and which locomotive/engine was used for sound recording as I think there are no sound recordings of British Class 28s. However, Irish and Australian railways have locomotives with Crossley 2-stroke engines. Waiting expectantly for a reply! Peterfgf You would be out of luck in Ireland as they were all re-engined decades ago, and the survivors rarely get the chance to stretch their legs anyway. Western Australia may be a better option as several X and Xa class still exist with their original engines. One of my favourite memories is driving the preserved Xa1401 on a main line railtour over 20 years ago - I think it is still operational. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted April 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said: This would be one of those models where the premium for DCC or sound fitting is absolutely worth it. Unless they revise the tooling I found removing the body the hardest of any loco I have fitted since coming into the hobby in 2000. Limited space inside once I got in there too as I recall it . That is often said, but I had no issues converting mine to DCC. I wonder if the tolerances are a bit wayward? Roy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted April 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22 Wonderful, I’ll have to think about getting one for my Cumbrian Coast layout. Totally out of my time period but hard to say no to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted April 23 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23 I had my first run cobo sound fitted by Howes. I don’t know if the sound is 100% accurate, but it is really good and distinctive from my other loco sounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 23 17 minutes ago, ColinK said: I had my first run cobo sound fitted by Howes. I don’t know if the sound is 100% accurate, but it is really good and distinctive from my other loco sounds. I'm going to fit a recording of Sean Dyche gargling, not be far off I'll wager! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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