S.A.C Martin Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Spectacular work Sean - watching with interest. It's amazing how many subtle livery variations are there, even on a one off prototype, eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 7, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2011 Looks good mate. I think you should offer to do a 'workshop' at Hobby Holidays (you'd get paid for that!!) - I'd be glad to help (no fee, just cake). I'm teetering on the brink of getting some fan grilles and things and doing my first Diesel detailing bash(es) Cheers Phil @ 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Phil, the fan grills are nice... delicate and caused me a little experimentation to fit... but they do look so much better... and fitting them will not result in much of a need for a repaint. well worth it my opinion. Hmmm... I didn't stop there though did I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Meanwhile, this pairing turned up back at the ranch.....I'm still not convinced that the lower chevron on the Bachmann body is correct, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Meanwhile, this pairing turned up back at the ranch.....I'm still not convinced that the lower chevron on the Bachmann body is correct, though. I don't think that it's the bottom chevron that's wrong, it's all the front end that's wrong. The top chevron should be in a line just under the cab side windows, as should be the E.E. name plate ( the bottom of the E.E. name plate should be in line with the bottom of the side window). The apex of the bottom of the bottom chevron should be approx. on the C/L of the side marker lights. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I don't think that it's the bottom chevron that's wrong, it's all the front end that's wrong. .... I'm going to put the Bachmann front end alongside a head-on photo of the real thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 .....H/T, glad you've checked back in, thought you'd given up?..... What's your intention with the two new bodies?.... The bodies are the property of Brian Hanson, and it's interesting to see that much of the modification that I've done so far to mine has already been done on his! And then he's added quite a bit more! I am taking loads of photos and measurements of both the Kitmaster and the Bachmann bodies. I think even the Bachmann body has an error but only in respect of the size and shape of the chevrons on the nose ends.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Might need to, (ahem), borrow that body when you've done with it to assist me with mine..... Meet me behind the swimming pool at Scaleforum... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 When and where is it? Click here Just had a thought re your front chevrons, (might do this when I do mine?). If the discussion re their thickness was correct and we can get away without using raised beading, can you not just cut the chevrons in half where the two sides meet and trim them to a different angle, or am I oversimplifying things?..... I'm going to shave all the moulded nose chevrons off. The Fox transfers set look virtually correct, and the bottom one is closer to the steep "V" than even the Bachmann interpretation. The fake headlight is also going to be cut back and reshaped. Looking at both the Bachmann body, and Brian's effort which predates it by about six years, it's clear that there's loads of filler that needs to be applied to the Kitmaster nose and shaped to suit. The really big job will be the windscreens. On Brian's Kitmaster shell, he has made new windscreens from scratch in styrene (the Kitmaster ones are just wrong), and shaped these to the distinctive curved "ship's bow" , with the roof also shaped to match. God only knows how I'm going to replicate all that, but I've got to have a go at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Hi Phil, (and everyone else above). Thanks for your comments. What's this Hobby Holidays then? Never heard of that.... As Jon said, you should have yourself a go. It's how I started out and everyone knows the big blue boxes are easier than the kettles..... He heh. Seriously, if you picked up one of the better Bachmann or Hornby offerings, (class 50?) there's little for you to get wrong as they need so little detailing. H/T, glad you've checked back in, thought you'd given up?..... What's your intention with the two new bodies? Jon, I've just seen your latest Deltic in undercoat. There are some steps on each solebar corner, are they Shawplan? I have some on the 50 etch, but they're not the correct pattern for DP2..... Hi S.A.C, nice to catch up again, I'll have to check in on what you're up to. I've left all things steamy for the while - the L1 and K1 left me all steamed out! As regards DP2, SHE'S FINISHED - well, save for the fan grille and the roof mounted air horns. All the etches are added and I'm very impressed with their quality. Since I've been on picture overload with DP2 though, I'll wait while this work is done before putting another picture of the finished model up. That'll be it then for a while as the wedding draws near and so if I start something else, I'll never sort out the final plans! The split headcode Deltic now has two cabs and all the requisite parts for the front end, so I reckon a poll on livery will have to be started while I'm away! Another thing, what numbers and names would they have had? Or shall I just work on the theory that there would still have been 22, just built a year or so earlier? Oh the excitement!.....B) Cheers. Sean. Your wedding Sean..? The steps are from shawplan Brian's Extreme Etchings range - EEDP55-06 Class 55 Bufferbeam footsteps - I probably blogged something a while back. Scaleforum... I'll be there!B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon020 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Aye. I know it's hard to believe that I've got this far on in life, but I'm soon to succumb to the inevitable. As for the steps, how strong are they? I've had mine on for less than a day and they're bent to flip..... Cheers. Sean. Congrats... being made an honest man of then . The steps from Brian are quite robust.... they fold up neatly and once the upper part is bent it will sit inside the corner of the nose quite nicely. About half way down this entry http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/587/entry-5610-my-4mm-deltic-detailing-project-first-2011-update-body-finished/ you'll see them fitted on the inside. I fitted these a while ago and they're still holding up... much better than the bendy 50 ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Here we are.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucky Duck Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 PoD and Jon020, some seriously crazy diesel stuff going on here … right up my street! Now when's that re-tooled Bacchie 40 due?… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Here we are.... Horsetan, this is what I was trying to say a few messages back, If you look at the line that I've drawn across the nose from marker light to marker light, the bottom apex of the bottom chevron comes to the mid point of the marker lights. Then the centre of the second chevron starts at about the same line. Having seen the more side on shots of the Backman body the top chevron is in about the right place it just may not be pointie enough. T.P.oD. sorry for taking over your thread. OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 A couple of things on the Bachmann proto Deltic nose: the thin black lines are nowhere near thin enough, of course, so that probably has an effect. Secondly, is it me or are the lamp brackets just a wee bit shorter on the real loco? That might just make enough room for a more pointy lower part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Secondly, is it me or are the lamp brackets just a wee bit shorter on the real loco? That might just make enough room for a more pointy lower part. And a different shape too by the looks of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Amazing work Sean, looks the part. 6 weeks to the wedding eh? Good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 ,,,,,six weeks to my wedding and I really should start concentrating on the final plans. .....THE PENGUIN WILL RETURN!..... "A man in love is incomplete until he's married. Then, he's finished!!" (Zsa Zsa Gabor) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted July 15, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2011 "A man in love is incomplete until he's married. Then, he's finished!!" (Zsa Zsa Gabor) Marriage is an institution,,,,,,,,,,,,but who wants to live in an institution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 To TPoD, DP2 looks mighty fine. Six weeks and then it's down hill all the way . OzzyO. PS. it's my twentieth anniversary this year . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Marriage is an institution,,,,,,,,,,,,but who wants to live in an institution. It's not that bad! Mine lets me play with trains both big and small as well as playing and coaching cricket along with my interest in British sports saloons Can't complain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Sounds like you are! Suzi once asked me why the grilles on the noses on a pair of my 37s were different (original vs refurbished)! Then she asked me "What have you done to me?!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 A useful quality indeed... She can then steer you away from the "howling bag of wind talc dispenser" and towards something more wholesome. Like a 47. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffles Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I look forward to it Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mirreles31 Posted September 7, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hi Sean, welcome back . The 50 is looking good so far, it's a pity about the steps they looked rather nice! Cheers Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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