RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2013 Not half Mike - check out the colour shot of D1065 in maroon at Reading in '65... with the newly installed but not yet commisioned colour lights rubbing shoulders with the old semaphores. Lovely! I have Nidge - I went through the lot!!! BTW when did D1000 get the two original fit air pipes - any idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) I have Nidge - I went through the lot!!! BTW when did D1000 get the two original fit air pipes - any idea? By my reckoning Mike sometime in 1963 I think, and possibly the latter half of that year judging by the condition of the paintwork in the photos I've been looking at. (Oh, and photo #263 in that little lot is an excellent example of Crewe Works particular treatment of the yellow bufferbeam, with the yellow covering the entire area plus the raised lip around the edge, this version only applied to D1039 and D1040, on D1041, D1042 and D1043 the lip was painted maroon). Edited February 17, 2013 by Rugd1022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Referring back to the question of of Westerns running about 'half naked' minus their nameplates, here's another 'Railway Magazine' traffic report snippet from the June 1969 issue... "Class 52 No. 1018 Western Buccaneer is running with one side badly gashed and half of the nameplate destroyed. The nameplates of some other members of this class have been noted with various letters missing''. Bearing in mind the date of the above, it appears that poor old D1018 would have been running around like this for some time and sure enough checking with Adrian Curtis's 'Western Mythology' book gives us more detail - the plate was still attached to the loco with parts missing until it was removed at Laira between March 6th and 26th 1971, and ran without the plate until November 16th when it was fitted with a new one at Swindon. By chance, there's a photo of it passing Laira with the afternoon milk on the 15th in Geoffrey Kitchenside's book 'Farewell To The Westerns', meaning it was probably put on the milk as a way of getting it up to Swindon. D1018 didn't emerge again until April 13th 1972 but had been repainted, the trouble was, being one of the four 'vacuum braked only' Westerns it was marked down for early withdrawal and was taken out of traffic on 11th June 1973. What a short life...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 There is some truly top notch stuff on that link, well worth a look for anyone everyone who loves 'em! Just been through them again and through the tears of joy I've spotted that pic #122 is supposedly D1039, but alas it isn't..... when it went blue on 24/2/71 it was fitted with the square cab front air vent so this photo must be of another Crewe built loco... the date is probably correct though as the 31 on the right still has it's pre-Tops number on the cabside ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 There is some truly top notch stuff on that link, well worth a look for anyone everyone who loves 'em! Seconded! (or, thirded!). Look at this, in my favourite version of the blue livery: http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p274090425/h43241D28#h3399c118 Just over 34 44(?) years ago now, at Twyford and, look at that lovely old fashioned road sign too! It all looks so fresh and new still! Enjoy! John E. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angell328 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Well a Blue FYE Western is now going to be running with some NSE stock, couldn't resist the call any longer! Matt 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It's the photos in Hornby magazine which first drew my attention to the prominence of the lip. Another minor fault is the presence of red route restriction dots (early) on a locomotive with Talisman clips (late). Of course, if the blue model is to be D1005 it would also have lost the headboard clips on one end by the time the Talisman clips were fitted. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It's the photos in Hornby magazine which first drew my attention to the prominence of the lip. Another minor fault is the presence of red route restriction dots (early) on a locomotive with Talisman clips (late). Of course, if the blue model is to be D1005 it would also have lost the headboard clips on one end by the time the Talisman clips were fitted. Geoff Endacott Ah but the fact that the model comes with no name or number plates fitted means if D1005 is not your bag because of the clips then you can choose your own individual preference or the livery. Cheers Dave 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) D1006 Western Stalwart , Plymouth 1967 by francis3351, on Flickr anyone going to model this window addition? Edited February 17, 2013 by Michael Delamar 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) So have any of the Dapol westerns have missing headboard clips...if Dapol 1005 has them now. Hope one day we will have some with air vents done too. Edited February 17, 2013 by owentherail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Ah but the fact that the model comes with no name or number plates fitted means if D1005 is not your bag because of the clips then you can choose your own individual preference or the livery. Cheers Dave It still has the Talisman clips and I think you are missing something here. Blue livery dates from 1967. The Talisman clips date from 1974. If all of the blue full yellow end models have the Talisman clips they are restricted to the last three and a bit years of the Westerns' service lives. Seven years, 1967-73 inclusive, are missing. That's more than half the service life of a lot of the Westerns. Why not use the body with the earlier clips and release it in blue livery with full yellow ends? I want lots like that. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairburn Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 [/url]D1006 Western Stalwart , Plymouth 1967 by francis3351, on Flickr anyone going to model this window addition? Western Monocle. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 So have any of the Dapol westerns have missing headboard clips...if Dapol 1005 has them now. Hope one day we will have some with air vents done too. The maroon one with small panels is listed as D1029. That is from the batch D1025-29 which were built without the clips. Will the model have them? Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2013 Western Monocle. To which the said windscreen was not very successful by all accounts Terry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Cheese Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 The Brighton Western was D1037 Western Empress. Arrived at Brighton on an ADEX special in July 1972. Broke down and was dumped on the buffer stops of the old middle road for about three days. I have only ever seen the one picture, that of it sitting all alone at Brighton and it has appeared in various 'Diesels on the Southern' type books over the years. EDIT - Would you know it, no sooner do I type this response than I find a picture online!! http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p274090425/h43241D28#h43241d28 Before my time but it seems hydraulics were a rare sight at Brighton anyway? My father recalled a day when he took a Warship to the coast on an excursion, a Hymek arriving on the same day on another special. Upon arrival at Brighton there was some commotion as apparently the type was not cleared for the route at the time, despite nothing untoward happening he was instructed to make the return journey with all roof ventilators closed and a couple of bridges to be passed at walking pace until back on the SW division. Not sure what happened about the Hymek. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 To which the said windscreen was not very successful by all accounts Terry I believe that it was great when it was raining - but hopeless when it wasn't. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hi Geoff, slight confusion on my behalf here. If you are referring to battery box clips we are doing both types. BR blue at launch should have the later ones, but revisiting for earlier ones on re-runs WWII happen sooner or later. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2013 Seconded! (or, thirded!). Look at this, in my favourite version of the blue livery: http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p274090425/h43241D28#h3399c118 Just over 34 44(?) years ago now, at Twyford and, look at that lovely old fashioned road sign too! It all looks so fresh and new still! Enjoy! John E. It's actually at Lands End nowadays known by the railway as Twyford West (seems it confused some folk). I'm fairly sure the 'finger' signpost is still there although I believe the Low Bridge sign is long gone. BTW talking of mis-captions has anybody else noticed the mis-identifcation of Southall (unless it's been corrected following my blowing the whistle on it?). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 17, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2013 I believe that it was great when it was raining - but hopeless when it wasn't. Geoff Endacott Great when it was raining if it was working - apparently at times it was a bit temperamental. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted February 18, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 18, 2013 ...BR blue at launch should have the later ones, but revisiting for earlier ones on re-runs WWII happen sooner or later. WWII?? Are you using predictive text by any chance, DD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2013 D1006 Western Stalwart , Plymouth 1967 by francis3351, on Flickr anyone going to model this window addition? Not entirely relevant to the Dapol model, although a possibility for adaptation, but ISTR there's an optional rotary screen wiper in the Heljan sprues along with a square cab ventilator. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapolDave Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 WWII?? Are you using predictive text by any chance, DD? Blinking I-pad predictive texts. Mind you perhaps 'Western Ruhr' would be a nice name 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2013 For those who have not heard Steam are in the process of contacting purchasers and are beginning to despatch locos today/tomorrow - in strict order of date of placing your order (as mine was No.21 - bit higher than I thought - I got my call this morning). All 400 are now sold but there is a reserve list in case anybody happens to cancel. I'm on my way to Swindon (later this week). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) It's actually at Lands End nowadays known by the railway as Twyford West (seems it confused some folk). I'm fairly sure the 'finger' signpost is still there although I believe the Low Bridge sign is long gone. BTW talking of mis-captions has anybody else noticed the mis-identifcation of Southall (unless it's been corrected following my blowing the whistle on it?). Mike - which particular photo are you referring too...? Edit : just found it... at 'Langley'..! Edited February 18, 2013 by Rugd1022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted February 18, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2013 As I hadn't received a call from STEAM for my D1000 order, I phoned this morning. Very prompt and polite service- gave my credit card details and model will be dispatched tomorrow -for delivery Thursday. (Busy sound of parcels being wrapped in the background!) Anyone received theirs yet? Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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