RMweb Premium great northern Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2015 Excellent Jason.......but......I can't help but feel......it needs some......clowns...........zoo animals.......and graffiti though........ ;-p (and lots of unnecessary full stops) and Daleks, don't forget them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2015 Excellent Jason.......but......I can't help but feel......it needs some......clowns...........zoo animals.......and graffiti though........ ;-p (and lots of unnecessary full stops) Chris. Do you know you just typed that... Not just thought that. Jason. Fantastic photos. Very real. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2015 B**** excellent matey, BUT WHERE'S the Black 5? Jason keep an eye on this bloke, he talks about steam locos while all the time he is planning an invasion of BLUE diesels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Jason keep an eye on this bloke, he talks about steam locos while all the time he is planning an invasion of BLUE diesels. Yea but they still pulled little grey wagons, ahhaha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Jason, those weathered 16T wagons in the first photo are awesome! Funnily enough, considering Andy's recent post, it was that beautiful and realistic image of the Black5 under the canopy that first attracted me to this thread!! I've learned so much from this and the thread on the production of your buildings and I am truly grateful! Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Jason T Posted February 28, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2015 Something done for Bacup today rather than The Mill, and although I said I was going to document it, I got carried away. I bought this Black Five quite a while ago now and removed the erroneous shelf from the tender (above the springs - it shouldn't be there and is easy to remove), the other erroneous area under the smokebox, renumbered it, it has a Comet bogie, the bogie and tender wheels are Gibson ones, the front steps are Comet ones and I added screw links but from then on, it has sat in the cupboard. A while ago now, I picked up one of the Brassmasters detailing kits and as this 5MT hasn't yet been weathered, it has become the guinea pig before the others are upgraded (if all goes well). As can be seen, I started with the tender. I left the Hornby moulded springs and axleboxes on. Although the instructions say they are undersized, the moulding is much finer than the whitemetal replacements. So, what have I done then? - Removed the moulded steps on the back of the tender and replaced them with the etched brass ones by carefully removing the originals and then drilling a 0.4mm hole, enlarged it sideways with a scalpel and glued the replacements in. - Removed the pathetic excuse for lamp irons and replaced them as above. - Added the steps to the tops of the buffers. - Thinned down the edges all around so they look a bit more like metal than huge moulded plastic. - Added the plain angle iron to the inside of the water filler space. - Added the lifting rings. - Cut out the coal 'hole' and added the etch to the front inside. - Cut out the fire iron hole and made the tunnel out of .020 plastikard. Edited to add some other bits and bobs that I'd forgotten I'd done. Oh, and this will be going EM at some point too 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Evening Jason, That's excellent workmanship mate, and look so much better and finer, pity you didn't photograph an unmodified one alongside it for a better comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Giffard LSWR 1951-71 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 ....lovely work Jason, so much that clearly hasn't come out of a box or packet. Keep it up. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hi, Jason. That is what a Stanier tender should look like, and I've done several of these conversions myself. The loco' itself will be even more interesting! Well done, very expert workmanship. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted February 28, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2015 I guess the biggest differences visually (when painted) will be the tender front, the fire iron tunnel and the lifting rings. Oh, and the removal of that bloody stupid shelf I wish they'd included enough parts for two sets of lifting rings as I'd now like to add them to, well, all my Stanier tenders. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrkirtley800 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Very nice scaling up job, Jason. Will look good on the wider gauge track. Derek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Morning Jason, All I've got to say is 'thank you', very inspirational, Kind regards, Jock. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Damn, need to do that to my Black 5s now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Jason,Nice work there. I have a Hornby one semi converted (shelf and front end modified) but now it looks like I need to finish that one and the others off.BazPS did you use the Judith Edge etchings to add details to the 21T hoppers? Edited March 1, 2015 by Barry O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted March 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2015 I didn't know he sold such things; Parkside kits, Lanarshire buffers and bits of wire are all I have used Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 1, 2015 Next time I see you I may just have a buckshee etch... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_Ed Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hello Jason, It took me a couple of weeks to read the whole topic back-to-front and then front-to-back again. But it was well worth it!The layout is absolutely stunning and I've learned loads reading through all the pages. I can't wait to build a row of grotty looking houses.. Any chance of showing a step-by-step of you weathering, because yours is a piece of art as well!? Keep up the great work! Edwinso, now back to catching up with the rest of rmweb 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted March 25, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2015 Hi, thanks for the compliments; I just think of it as my big trainset (as opposed to the little train set, The Mill). I do have some more weathering to do shortly so will try and remember to take some photos as I go along. Cheers, Jason. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivers Finelines Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It took me a couple of weeks to read the whole topic back-to-front and then front-to-back again. But it was well worth it! The layout is absolutely stunning and I've learned loads reading through all the pages. I concur with that. It's a fantastic layout. It has for me, made me look at what I want to build in a model railway, in a big way. Not only has the model got its railway element, but also a fantastic architectural part, which I have realised I have massive interest in modelling. Like Edwin there are many techniques I've pick up from this thread, so many thanks for sharing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_Ed Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Thanks Jason, looking forward to seeing some pictures of the weathering! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Johnson Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Hi Jason, just spent the last fortnight nearly reading your epic whilst recovering from a heart attack, ha,ha! No, REALLY! It is truly amazing! I cannot believe railway modelling is so underrated, undervalued. It is to my mind, an art form, fine art at that , in 3D. There should be a Royal Academy for railway Modelling, and Bacup would be right up there with the very best. Keep up the good work and don't let anyone tell you it's not fine scale! Fine scale to me is not just about P4 and Scaleseven! You have proved it. Regards Les PS. Congrats on the marriage - it's the first 20 years are the worst then it's all downhill! Ha,ha 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted April 16, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16, 2015 Hi Les, and thanks for the very kind comments. I'm ashamed to admit that currently, the layout has become a bit of a shelf for The Mill, with EM gauge wagons plonked unceremoniously in the goods yard (I tried to sit them n the track and unsurprisingly, that didn't work too well), paint tins and glue pots on the roads and sheets of Plastikard wherever they can fit. The Mill will soon be off to Chris's house so he can get on with a few tasks (I currently need the full layout in order to construct the buildings) and when that happens, Bacup will be getting a spruce up and a bit of usage again, including finishing off some locos and stock for it. The Black Five above hasn't moved on at all as we have a deadline to meet with The Mill (competition entry goes in before the 17th May) but as some of the EM wagons could, with a wheel swap and not looking too closely at the brakes, be used for Bacup, then I suppose I have been doing some bits for it Cheers, Jason. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Morning Jason, Will Bacup live on in your new plans for the future mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted April 18, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2015 Most definitely mate, at least for a few more years. I have put far too much effort into it and am still chuffed to bits with it. It's replacement will be years in the making and will be on much shorter, transportable boards (so it can be exhibited) so can be built separately and stored underneath Bacup. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Jason that was my idea for OO to be the open the box and run. The years ahead to build a p4 layout and store under th OO layout. It has been about 5 years on the OO and the p4 kit building has been going a lot longer than that! No layout yet though just the rolling stock! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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