Hroth Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 28 minutes ago, 'CHARD said: What's the cat no.? R.20 according to The Tri-ang Hornby Book Of Trains. 🙃 Edited April 16 by Hroth Getting it right... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hroth said: Not the very first, the Princess has plunger pickups not the very first roller pickups, so not as desirable. The original M&S* Rovex set's stock had a simpler hook & loop type of coupling as well IIRC, whereas this set has the earliest form of tension-lock automatic. *'Loving tooled from chemical extrusions and designed by experts to go all bendy as soon as daylight gets anywhere near them, these are not just bananas; these are LMS plastic M&S bananas'... Edited April 16 by The Johnster 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellino Rail Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Not something you see everyday - 30 of the same Hornby class 86 in one lot. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335351522679 Edited April 16 by Kellino Rail spelling 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted April 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16 15 minutes ago, Kellino Rail said: Not something you see everyday - 30 of the same Hornby class 86 in one lot. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335351522679 Cost of postage is 7.95 pounds, sounds cheap. Spring needs pushing back in 3 locos? If it's that simple just do it, BEFORE listing! Although why all in 1 lot, beats me! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellino Rail Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, kevinlms said: Cost of postage is 7.95 pounds, sounds cheap. Spring needs pushing back in 3 locos? If it's that simple just do it, BEFORE listing! Although why all in 1 lot, beats me! Agreed, and £41.67 for each model at the starting price (£58.33 each at the buy it now), plus postage, when you can pick them up individually for about £30 won't even interest the dealers... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjcm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 If you look on completed listings he was selling them separately originally. Obviously can't be bothered anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 33 minutes ago, The Johnster said: The original M&S* Rovex set's stock had a simpler hook & loop type of coupling as well IIRC, whereas this set has the earliest form of tension-lock automatic. Those were called Mk 2 couplings. So Mk. 1 was presumably the original Rovex ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said: Those were called Mk 2 couplings. So Mk. 1 was presumably the original Rovex ones Makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 16 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Kellino Rail said: Not something you see everyday - 30 of the same Hornby class 86 in one lot. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335351522679 So rare there's 30 of 'em this bloke can't get rid of! 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Kellino Rail said: Not something you see everyday - 30 of the same Hornby class 86 in one lot. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335351522679 Who would want or need 30 of the same locomotive? Perhaps a failed project to model the WCML, and, they were to be renumbered? Whoever originally purchased them did so from at least 3 different shops. I feel there should be more in the description as to where they came from and why, but, obviously the seller doesn't have to say. They definitely have an interesting background. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, The Johnster said: The original M&S* Rovex set's stock had a simpler hook & loop type of coupling as well IIRC, whereas this set has the earliest form of tension-lock automatic. *'Loving tooled from chemical extrusions and designed by experts to go all bendy as soon as daylight gets anywhere near them, these are not just bananas; these are LMS plastic M&S bananas'... 1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said: Those were called Mk 2 couplings. So Mk. 1 was presumably the original Rovex ones Rovex Coupling Triang Couplings The first Triang couplings were the Mk2(a) which had a plain drop arm, the later Triang coupling, the Mk2b had the "skid" on the drop arm, apparently to add weight and give more positivity to the hook. The familiar tension lock Mk3 was introduced in 1957 with, I believe, the TT system and then transferred to OO. The loco tender has a hook coupling, while the coaches have Mk2b couplings. It looks like someone has found a box with a loco and tender and has added a couple of later coaches to make the lot a bit more attractive! The lack of track is probably because the original "Universal" track is incompatible with the later "Standard" track and including Standard track would certainly stick out like a sore thumb! Rovex Universal track Triang Standard track 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksworth_Sidings Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: Those were called Mk 2 couplings. So Mk. 1 was presumably the original Rovex ones Despite them being the first couplers, I believe they were never officially referred to as MK1s? At least that’s what I’ve got reading from http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/OO Latest/Couplings.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellino Rail Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 OK, please excuse my ignorance, but what was / is Hornby USM?? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092491152 I do love 'Pugs' but for that money... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40152 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 25 minutes ago, Kellino Rail said: OK, please excuse my ignorance, but what was / is Hornby USM?? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092491152 Hopefully no relation to Carter USM… 😉 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattR Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) According to the Internet: "In October 1986, Hornby Group plc was floated on the Unlisted Securities Market and became a public company." Edited April 16 by MattR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 35 minutes ago, Kellino Rail said: OK, please excuse my ignorance, but what was / is Hornby USM?? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226092491152 I do love 'Pugs' but for that money... So Hornby joined the US Marshals? I don't recall them appearing with Tommy Lee Jones, Wesley Snipes or Robert Downey Jnr, in the film. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellino Rail Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 11 minutes ago, 40152 said: Hopefully no relation to Carter USM… 😉 Hey, I like Carter USM!! But I think I get your point... ;-) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellino Rail Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 10 minutes ago, MattR said: According to the Internet: "In October 1986, Hornby Group plc was floated on the Unlisted Securities Market and became a public company." That is along the lines of my suspicions... although there is a slight discrepancy in the dates. Thanks for the info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 16 8 hours ago, Kellino Rail said: Not something you see everyday - 30 of the same Hornby class 86 in one lot. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335351522679 7 hours ago, The Johnster said: So rare there's 30 of 'em this bloke can't get rid of! Not just rare but RARE!!!!! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235489569040? Makes you wonder what this is for, unless I have missed something? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Radford Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 8 hours ago, PieGuyRob said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235489569040? Makes you wonder what this is for, unless I have missed something? Did Heljan do a 37? I suspect that it is for a Vi Trains version - that needed much fiddling and painting for buffer furniture. The "snow ploughs" are some of the yellow bits - no idea what the sprue of little yellow ones are for. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 17 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17 18 minutes ago, Bill Radford said: no idea what the sprue of little yellow ones are for. Lamp irons? Mike. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said: Lamp irons? Mike. That's correct, lamp irons for the Vitrains 37. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieGuyRob Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 5 hours ago, Bill Radford said: Did Heljan do a 37? I suspect that it is for a Vi Trains version - that needed much fiddling and painting for buffer furniture. The "snow ploughs" are some of the yellow bits - no idea what the sprue of little yellow ones are for. As far as I'm aware Heljan only do an 0 gauge 37. So it is quite possibly a Vi-Trains one as stated above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted633 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126430717767? KMRC were struggling to flog these for less than £30 about a year ago (I eventually bought one). Already at £45 now with over 3 days to go! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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