Grovenor Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 And both overpriced! Not identical, the extra £20 gets you a box for the van. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Not identical, the extra £20 gets you a box for the van. Keith And no overpainting in black, which rather spoils the item's collectibility. I'm not sure how authentic the overpainting is anyway - I doubt any of these cranes got repainted red (the livery choice surprised me at the time (around 1960) - all the cranes I saw were black.) Edited September 12, 2014 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Are you thinking it with a ridiculous Froggy accent? Zer case ees solv-ed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2014 And no overpainting in black, which rather spoils the item's collectibility. I'm not sure how authentic the overpainting is anyway - I doubt any of these cranes got repainted red (the livery choice surprised me at the time (around 1960) - all the cranes I saw were black.) The cranes - or some of them - and their match trucks & relieving bogies were definitely painted red in service, although not all over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The cranes - or some of them - and their match trucks & relieving bogies were definitely painted red in service, although not all over. Nice to know! Thanks. The all over red is probably a sign of Dublo feeling the pinch from Tri-ang. I assume the frames would be black? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Lower down the listings are diferent pictures. One has a box for the van, the other is partially repainted. Ahhh. So, one listing has the wrong heading picture! Still a bit of a XXXXX Mess up! Not very professional..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) While I am thinking of cranes..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abandoned-00-GAUGE-mobile-crane-heavily-rusted-and-weathered-/291238576064?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43cf2bffc0 An-uplifting experience! An interesting use of an old Tri-ang Transcontinental TPO Car! Even the crane is a Tri-ang product....! EDIT... I have had a look at the other items....GBL have a good customer here! Now weren't these coaches made of wood?.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abandoned-00-GAUGE-coach-heavily-rusted-and-weathered-/291238885128?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43cf30b708 Edited September 12, 2014 by Sarahagain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nice to know! Thanks. The all over red is probably a sign of Dublo feeling the pinch from Tri-ang. I assume the frames would be black? The frames on the cranes (and I think the bogies) were red - in fact the Dublo colour was fairly accurate, possibly slightly pale, and overall it wasn't a bad model but there were the 'operating' bits which were rather out of scale. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleefy Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Is *WOW* the new (SUPER ITEM)? Everything in his/her veritable tat-fest of a shop is similarly labelled, from the Belgian edition of Monopoly to the British Airways cutlery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodmin Bob Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) While I am thinking of cranes..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abandoned-00-GAUGE-mobile-crane-heavily-rusted-and-weathered-/291238576064?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43cf2bffc0 An-uplifting experience! An interesting use of an old Tri-ang Transcontinental TPO Car! Even the crane is a Tri-ang product....! EDIT... I have had a look at the other items....GBL have a good customer here! Now weren't these coaches made of wood?.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abandoned-00-GAUGE-coach-heavily-rusted-and-weathered-/291238885128?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43cf30b708 From the same seller - a streamlined Duchess in scrapyard condition - this guy obviously knows his stuff - must be one of the many that were never de streamlined !!! Unfortunately he advises that it is a static model (great shame) - however it has been hand painted by a 'professional artist (obviously one going through his 'surrealist' period) and it has been thoroughly lacquered (note how that rhymes with knackered). More good news is that it will be sent securely wrapped in bubble wrap ( that will at least give the purchaser something to sit and play with when he realises what he has just blown his hard earned £17.99 plus postage on!) Edited September 12, 2014 by Bodmin Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'd avoid this one like the - well, you know... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATLAS-MODEL-TRAIN-PACIFIC-CHAPELON-NORD-ON-WOODEN-BASE-BRASS-PLAGUE-/201163939295?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2ed64e1ddf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2014 While I am thinking of cranes..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abandoned-00-GAUGE-mobile-crane-heavily-rusted-and-weathered-/291238576064?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43cf2bffc0 An-uplifting experience! An interesting use of an old Tri-ang Transcontinental TPO Car! Even the crane is a Tri-ang product....! I've always wondered what happens to all the cr*p, sorry special items, that seemed to dragged around to various swapmeets, 2nd hand stalls etc. Now I know, they get a tin of rust coloured paint poured over them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nice to know! Thanks. The all over red is probably a sign of Dublo feeling the pinch from Tri-ang. I assume the frames would be black? I don't know about the frames being black, though they may get a bit grubby. I think the cranes were pretty well looked after, and didn't travel too many miles either. I do know that the HD Cranes were introduced in 1959 (at the same time as the 2-Rail system), and Red was the "up-to-the-minute" colour scheme. I seem to recall that at least one Model Railway Magazine Review questioned the colour at the time, only to find out that they were wrong, and HD were right. (Bachmann seems to have the same "problem" sometimes... ) I think that 1959 was a bit of a turning point for Hornby Dublo (Meccano Ltd.). The 2-Rail introduction, alongside the 3-Rail system would turn out to be a bit an error of judgement, as it entailed two complete systems to be manufactured, stored, and stocked by retail outlets. Within 4 years it was all over..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 This scares me!http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21C170-Battle-of-Britain-Class-Manston-Southern-Region-Spares-or-Repair-/331312936223?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4d23ca351fI am a particular fan of 34070 'Manston', and I can't hep but feel this dishonors the name1) The tender type doesn't even come close to a Bulleid2) The Terminology used in the description is more than questionable! Cab referred to as Cabin, Loco number referred to as Serial Number, it's 'Air smoothed casing' not 'Streamlining' and 'Cylinder' not 'Piston Box' 3) The name plate transfers are far from straight4) The lack of research into what it could be is appalling! They even state the Reference number of the tender, did they not think to search it and see what they could find out about that? At least then they would've realised the tender was from the wrong engine! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) This scares me! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21C170-Battle-of-Britain-Class-Manston-Southern-Region-Spares-or-Repair-/331312936223?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item4d23ca351f I am a particular fan of 34070 'Manston', and I can't hep but feel this dishonors the name 1) The tender type doesn't even come close to a Bulleid 2) The Terminology used in the description is more than questionable! Cab referred to as Cabin, Loco number referred to as Serial Number, it's 'Air smoothed casing' not 'Streamlining' and 'Cylinder' not 'Piston Box' 3) The name plate transfers are far from straight 4) The lack of research into what it could be is appalling! They even state the Reference number of the tender, did they not think to search it and see what they could find out about that? At least then they would've realised the tender was from the wrong engine! I agree.... The locomotive body is a plastic kit, made over the years by a few companies, Kitmaster, Airfix, and presently by Dapol. (A pity the modeller didn't use the kit tender top as well...) Given the transfers, it is possible that this was a Dapol kit, as they have produced various names/numbers, etc. Kitmaster and Airfix only supplied Biggin Hill... The locomotive chassis, complete with motor, driving wheels, rods, cylinders, front bogie and rear trailing truck is from a Tri-ang Railways R.50 "Princess Victoria", and dates from 1961 or 1962 (The distinctive driving wheels were only used on these models.) So, the wheels are all wrong, even given that the driving wheels are the solid sintered iron type, but with spokes! (Bulleid-Stanier Type? ) The simplified rods, without the valve gear, are also typical, R.50. A bit like a Bulleid...but the slide bars and cross head are wrong... The tender is also from a Tri-ang Railways "Princess", most probably from the same locomotive. Pure Stanier, but painted green! At least someone has tried a bit of modelling! The photos have a legal background as well... Edited September 13, 2014 by Sarahagain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhBBob Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I'd avoid this one like the - well, you know... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATLAS-MODEL-TRAIN-PACIFIC-CHAPELON-NORD-ON-WOODEN-BASE-BRASS-PLAGUE-/201163939295?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2ed64e1ddf He's also has a 'vintage Stylophone' and he's not far from the Thames.........I wonder ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted September 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2014 He's also has a 'vintage Stylophone' and he's not far from the Thames.........I wonder ? Unfortunately Stylophones were advertised on the box art and on TV by...... don't click on the link if you are offended by the sight of convicted se# offenders http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolf-Harris-Stylophone-Working-Original-instructions-and-music-book-/261592771284?pt=UK_Collectables_Vintage_RL&hash=item3ce824ead4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 He's also has a 'vintage Stylophone' and he's not far from the Thames.........I wonder ? Luton is quite a way away from the Thames. Some say it's closer to Kashmir than the Thames..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted September 14, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2014 I think that 1959 was a bit of a turning point for Hornby Dublo (Meccano Ltd.). The 2-Rail introduction, alongside the 3-Rail system would turn out to be a bit an error of judgement, as it entailed two complete systems to be manufactured, stored, and stocked by retail outlets. Within 4 years it was all over..... Doesn't the modern retailer have the same trouble, with all the limited editions etc, not to mention Hornby with their normal range & Railroad range? I do hope the conclusion isn't the same for the current Hornby company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I don't know about the frames being black, though they may get a bit grubby. I think the cranes were pretty well looked after, and didn't travel too many miles either. I do know that the HD Cranes were introduced in 1959 (at the same time as the 2-Rail system), and Red was the "up-to-the-minute" colour scheme. I seem to recall that at least one Model Railway Magazine Review questioned the colour at the time, only to find out that they were wrong, and HD were right. (Bachmann seems to have the same "problem" sometimes... ) I think that 1959 was a bit of a turning point for Hornby Dublo (Meccano Ltd.). The 2-Rail introduction, alongside the 3-Rail system would turn out to be a bit an error of judgement, as it entailed two complete systems to be manufactured, stored, and stocked by retail outlets. Within 4 years it was all over..... IMHO there were numerous reasons for the demise of Meccano Ltd (not all of their own making) the late introduction of 2 rail being one of them. Price is often quoted, but Dublo was not that more expensive than Tri-ang (and cheaper than its other competitors). According to an advertisement I've found from 1954, the track was actually cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cram Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 A full etched brass one from Arthur is less. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steve-Barnfield-NER-Class-T-T1-0-8-0-LNER-BR-Class-Q5-Locomotive-Tender-Kit-/201165566086?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2ed666f086 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 43300 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Fartmel is at it again! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-EXLEY-00-MODEL-No-K5-GWR-No-229-PARCEL-TRAIN-BRAKE-VAN-MEGA-RARE-/301304710368?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item46272904e0 Described as:- VINTAGE EXLEY (00) MODEL No.K5/ GWR No.229 PARCEL TRAIN BRAKE VAN "MEGA RARE" And the description says: YOU ARE BUYING A "RARE" & "HIGHLY ATTRACTIVE" EXLEY MODEL Why are the words "rare" and "highly attractive" surrounded by speech marks? This is normally a piss-taking way of implying that it actually means the opposite, but why would anyone do that on their own item description? (and actually, no I'm not buying it! This 'You are buying..." way of stating a description seems to be liked by tat sellers nearly as much as "rare", "mega rare" and, of course, "kit built"! Edited September 14, 2014 by 43300 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon G Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I like this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-gwr-pannier-tank-loco-Unique-Look-/131293151764?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item1e91ae8214 In the description, it says that someone put a lot of time into it - in my opinion, not enough, but they do seem to have used about a gallon of paint! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 And the description says: YOU ARE BUYING A "RARE" & "HIGHLY ATTRACTIVE" EXLEY MODEL Why are the words "rare" and "highly attractive" surrounded by speech marks? This is normally a piss-taking way of implying that it actually means the opposite, but why would anyone do that on their own item description? Theory: They realise it's aweful, and are using the quotations as a way of warning those with enough knowledge to avoid. While hoping someone careless overlooks them, and buys it to get it off their hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 From the same seller - a streamlined Duchess in scrapyard condition - this guy obviously knows his stuff - must be one of the many that were never de streamlined !!! Unfortunately he advises that it is a static model (great shame) - however it has been hand painted by a 'professional artist (obviously one going through his 'surrealist' period) and it has been thoroughly lacquered (note how that rhymes with knackered). More good news is that it will be sent securely wrapped in bubble wrap ( that will at least give the purchaser something to sit and play with when he realises what he has just blown his hard earned £17.99 plus postage on!) They would not have allowed a 'Jelly Mould' to get into this condition!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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