Horsetan Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Looking forward to it! You do realise you'll probably be in competition with him, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DIW Posted February 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2015 You do realise you'll probably be in competition with him, don't you? Indeed! However as the 'end consumer' I should have the advantage in that buying for pleasure rather than needing to turn a profit means that I can sensibly bid up to (my personal concept of) the retail price rather than having to stop at the trade price. An intermediary needs to consider that there would be double postage, i.e. first seller (you) to intermediary, then intermediary to consumer (me). All that postage comes out of my (or other customer's) wallet at the end of the day, since the intermediary will add his postage costs to his purchase costs plus margin before listing for my perusal. Of course from Stationmaster's anecdotes on the subject of auctions we know that some traders can become determined to prevent at any cost other traders winning lots. Should you be the fortunate seller in such an event, the prices will have well exceeded my personal concept of the retail prices (and by that convoluted route we're back on topic of Ebay Madness). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Not madness, but I wanted a CD, sold in the USA, but from an UK source, so picked on the items marked in £'s...Cost £8.07 - Free P&P, then after Buy Now, thought the delivery date (about 15 days) was long so checked origin... Kentucky... The CD is normally around $12 + $8 p&p from the USA, so in one sense I have a bargain, bar the delivery time has caught me.Oh, the CD - Roy Rogers (Blues Guitarist) and if you want to know what he's like try this track on YouTube 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) I swear that guy has extra fingers - another guy who can pluck a mean guitar is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzfgagmrBk#t=141 Edited February 14, 2015 by shortliner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-31-156-JUBILEE-45715-INVINCIBLE-EMPTY-BOX-ONLY-/351314140421?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51cbf45d05 I've heard of box shifters but £6.99 + £3.22 p&p for an empty box? Really? Are their mad collectors of empty boxes out there? I'd suggest any Michaels in the vicinity move away now as this seller is coming to take you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Never ceases to amaze me how many people bid on fresh air....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivebunny Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-31-156-JUBILEE-45715-INVINCIBLE-EMPTY-BOX-ONLY-/351314140421?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51cbf45d05 I've heard of box shifters but £6.99 + £3.22 p&p for an empty box? Really? Are their mad collectors of empty boxes out there? I'd suggest any Michaels in the vicinity move away now as this seller is coming to take you. You see plenty of empty bodyshells and bodyless chassis units being sold, people don't buy those for collection purposes either From a product point of view an empty box for your loco is a replacement part like any other, particularly if you want to sell it on for a decent price (even more so in the case of rare / vintage items such as the Hornby APT). I'd be a bit cautious about buying an unboxed loco which the seller claims to be in new condition. Why is the box no longer with us? Where's the loco been stored? What's been protecting it from dust when it's unused? You might be spending a tenner on a box but if it means your loco fetches £40 more at auction then it's hardly a daft investment. JB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Never ceases to amaze me how many people bid on fresh air....... Nothing 'fresh' about it. I'd be a bit cautious about buying an unboxed loco which the seller claims to be in new condition.I would be dubious about any boxed loco - and certainly would not pay a penny more for one. Because I would think that they just bought the box off ebay and is probably the wrong one. Besides most boxes go straight into the recycling bin. I don't collect boxes or locos. Edited February 14, 2015 by Kenton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) You see plenty of empty bodyshells and bodyless chassis units being sold, people don't buy those for collection purposes either From a product point of view an empty box for your loco is a replacement part like any other, particularly if you want to sell it on for a decent price (even more so in the case of rare / vintage items such as the Hornby APT). I'd be a bit cautious about buying an unboxed loco which the seller claims to be in new condition. Why is the box no longer with us? Where's the loco been stored? What's been protecting it from dust when it's unused? You might be spending a tenner on a box but if it means your loco fetches £40 more at auction then it's hardly a daft investment. JB Bodyshells are different, people buy them as spares or to modify. I've bought several bodyshells to repaint and swap over. I can see why some might buy an empty box as well, but £6.99? Putting an unboxed loco in a correct box doesn't guarantee any extra return on it's sale as it can't possibly be described as "mint and boxed" as the loco clearly has been out of the wrapper, and in any case loco prices vary wildly depending who is looking at the time apart from a few well known bank-busters like FGW HSTs and 166s, so paying nearly ten notes to buy a box for your loco could end up being a waste of money if it doesn't attract many bids. Unless of course the seller is suffering from Gosturditis where everything will be mint, boxed, kit-built and excellent. Edited February 14, 2015 by wombatofludham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 Putting an unboxed loco in a correct box doesn't guarantee any extra return on it's sale as it can't possibly be described as "mint and boxed" as the loco clearly has been out of the wrapper Who is to know that the Loco was unboxed if it is in perfect condition ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 14, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Not madness, but I wanted a CD, sold in the USA, but from an UK source, so picked on the items marked in £'s... Cost £8.07 - Free P&P, then after Buy Now, thought the delivery date (about 15 days) was long so checked origin... Kentucky... The CD is normally around $12 + $8 p&p from the USA, so in one sense I have a bargain, bar the delivery time has caught me. Watch you don't get caught for VAT and Royal Mail handling charge.. Just because it's sold by a UK supplier the fact it comes from America means it is an import and VAT can be added, once that happens the dreaded handling charge kicks in. (I know because I got caught like that on an Amazon purchase from a UK supplier, but shipped from the US!) They were CDs and ended up quite a bit more expensive than from an actual UK source. Keith Edited February 15, 2015 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30801 Posted February 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2015 What you don't get caught for VAT and Royal Mail handling charge.. I got caught not long ago. Bought an item £8.50 inc postage from Australia. The seller put a value of $30 on the package and it attracted VAT. With RM's fees I had to pay just over eleven quid. More than the item cost in the first place... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centraltrains Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Errr... (Yes it's a model, not the real thing)... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REPAINTED-DETAILED-Hornby-R367-BR-EXECUTIVE-LIVERY-CLASS-86-ROYAL-MAIL-MID-/371253357035?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item56706ca9eb Strange seeing how he seller can do another class 86 at a much lower price. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371250872143 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 £54 for the latter, £5400 for the former... looks like a simple data entry error to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Hornby Western anyone? Excellent condition with no damage. Oh, except for the declared 'no hook at front, one buffer missing.' And everything else wrong with the poor hapless creature. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-class-52-Western-diesel-/251801737567?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3aa08d995f Meanwhile, Rails' Vault's pricing manager needs to sober up: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-Gauge-Hornby-BR-Green-Class-47-Diesel-Locomotive-47292-/151576894608?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item234aafdc90 £50 on a B-I-N for an old Hornby 37130? It's okay though, because the front rails have been replaced. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-oo-gauge-diesel-locomotive-/221690890525?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339dce891d Edited February 15, 2015 by 'CHARD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Abel Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Not really "madness" more a case of "strange". Pity folks don't do any research before posting things Then again it IS on the eBay US site and in the HO scale/Hornby area - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hornby-OO-HO-Gauge-0-6-0-Jinty-Locomotive-Coal-Car-Triang-England-Nice-/281565900093?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item418ea2ad3d Seems a tank engine may need a "coal car" in the imagination of a US model railroad store <sigh> 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2015 At the end of Northern Irish steam there was at least one 2-6-4 tank engine with a coal tender attached. (Can't find a pic on the web at the mo') 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 At the end of Northern Irish steam there was at least one 2-6-4 tank engine with a coal tender attached. (Can't find a pic on the web at the mo') That was a "WT" being trialled on the Belfast-Dublin service, but the water capacity of the tank on its own wasn't enough so they attached the tender from a "W" mogul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty1966 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Watch you don't get caught for VAT and Royal Mail handling charge.. Just because it's sold by a UK supplier the fact it comes from America means it is an import and VAT can be added, once that happens the dreaded handling charge kicks in. (I know because I got caught like that on an Amazon purchase from a UK supplier, but shipped from the US!) They were CDs and ended up quite a bit more expensive than from an actual UK source. Keith Anything under 25 quid should not be subject to import duty ! But they also take the mailing cost into account ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Not really "madness" more a case of "strange". Pity folks don't do any research before posting things Then again it IS on the eBay US site and in the HO scale/Hornby area - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hornby-OO-HO-Gauge-0-6-0-Jinty-Locomotive-Coal-Car-Triang-England-Nice-/281565900093?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item418ea2ad3d Seems a tank engine may need a "coal car" in the imagination of a US model railroad store <sigh> It's got "bumpers" as well, really is a rare model. Mike. Edited February 16, 2015 by Enterprisingwestern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It's got "bumpers" as well, really is a rare model. Mike. It seemed quite an apt description of the bar of a Tri-ang tension lock coupling to me. 840 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted February 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2015 Anything under 25 quid should not be subject to import duty ! But they also take the mailing cost into account ! Trouble is some overseas suppliers bump up the value for insurance thinking they're doing you a favour, not realising it puts the 'value' of the item bought much higher. I got caught by this once. Nowadays I ask them to make sure the price is same as the value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andytrains Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Is that Tax Avoidance or Tax Evasion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 It seemed quite an apt description of the bar of a Tri-ang tension lock coupling to me. 840 Yes, but I believe they are refering to the buffers....not a very common fitting in the US of A..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) WARNING.....!!! You may have heard about someone buying a Laptop on Ebay....only to find that they had actually bought a PHOTO of a laptop! Someone is doing it for Model Railways! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/photo-of-model-railway-coach-E153E-full-brake-/351313743238?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51cbee4d86 The listing does clearly state PHOTO, but the very limited description, coupled with the "click" impulse on seeing the illustration may well laed someone into buying this.... The question is, why would you want to buy a photo of a coach, when you could buy loads in a catalogue or Model Railway Magazine? There is also another from the same seller...a Pullman Coach PHOTO...(of an old HO LIMA Model!) Edited February 16, 2015 by Sarahagain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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