RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 14, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2013 Spoke to SK at Steam this afternoon and apparently the 'Star' failed the 'drop test' (seems like history repeating itself) so packaging change/mod/improvement/whatever is in hand, the late October promised date seems to be as much a 'best guesstimate' as anything but I got the impression that it is still planned to airfreight the locos over when they are finally ready. Yes we've been here before with the 42xx/72xx and their packaging.I guess it was good to get it from the horses mouth though so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwd Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Had a good look at all versions at STEAM. all versions have moulded handrails round the cab. Vertical and horizontal rails. If the actual production run still have these do people still expect to pay £145 (in case of STEAM version) for moulded handrails!! Stuck out like a sore thumb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Had a good look at all versions at STEAM. all versions have moulded handrails round the cab. Vertical and horizontal rails. If the actual production run still have these do people still expect to pay £145 (in case of STEAM version) for moulded handrails!! Stuck out like a sore thumb! Yes MIke Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2013 do people still expect to pay £145 (in case of STEAM version) for moulded handrails!! Stuck out like a sore thumb! Too late, they took my money in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 57xx Posted September 15, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2013 If the actual production run still have these do people still expect to pay £145 (in case of STEAM version) for moulded handrails!! No. I paid extra for a "special edition" model, not a run of the mill "design not-really-clever-at-all" 1970's fidelity model with a different name/number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 15, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2013 I think Mike [The Stationmaster] alluded to earlier in the thread that Steam themselves are very discerning and being in Swindon I wouldn't expect anything else. So if they aren't happy with them it will probably go back to China.Lets wait and see the finished article before a judgement is made. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B15nac Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I saw them at steam today an I thought they looked fantastic! Although I was surprised to see moulded on detail! A step backwards unfortunately but I will still get one! Thought the valve gear looked a little more chunky around the slide bars they had more depth than the castle I got so think that's a bonus Cheers Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted September 15, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 15, 2013 Had a good look at all versions at STEAM. all versions have moulded handrails round the cab. Vertical and horizontal rails. If the actual production run still have these do people still expect to pay £145 (in case of STEAM version) for moulded handrails!! Stuck out like a sore thumb! It's also a donation to STEAM, the same as the City of Truro NRM limited edition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neal Ball Posted September 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2013 Latest (possible) arrival date is end of Sept.... According to the Hornby post on Facebook...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Latest (possible) arrival date is end of Sept.... According to the Hornby post on Facebook...... Nearly misread this as the latest possible date of arrival but could arrive before, probably wistful thinking! Seriously I will be extremely disappointed if Lode Star is not a premium model with separately fitted hand rails etc. It was never billed as a Railroad model or design clever. In my view it will be a serious miscalculation by Hornby if the Star is built to the same, inferior standards as the 2-8-0/2-8-2 Tanks. While I accept that the Steam Model is at a premium price, the standard models are not much less and, in my view not design clever prices, as DoG and the P2. The Star was one of the seminal designs of the 20th Century and deserves to be replicated to the highest standards, unsullied by questionable cost cutting production methods. This is the model I wanted to be right. I hope I am not going to be too disappointed when the postman arrives! Edited September 16, 2013 by Unknown Warrior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Spoke to SK at Steam this afternoon and apparently the 'Star' failed the 'drop test' (seems like history repeating itself) so packaging change/mod/improvement/whatever is in hand, the late October promised date seems to be as much a 'best guesstimate' as anything but I got the impression that it is still planned to airfreight the locos over when they are finally ready. Yes we've been here before with the 42xx/72xx and their packaging.I guess it was good to get it from the horses mouth though so to speak. The 'drop test' is important. Even with all the issues on 42xx/72xx my 72xx arrived with a tank vent pipe bouncing inside the box. The packaging has to be very rigorous to withstand the post. And before anyone extols the virtues of Bachmann here I've had stuff from them (a smokebox door hinge on a City) that came adrift. In both of these cases I believe it was insufficient glue during manufacturing that was the culprit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Had a good look at all versions at STEAM. all versions have moulded handrails round the cab. Vertical and horizontal rails. If the actual production run still have these do people still expect to pay £145 (in case of STEAM version) for moulded handrails!! Stuck out like a sore thumb! Thanks for the confirmation. This was evident in the picture published on MREmag at the beginning of the year if you look really closely. We did discuss it already - certainly back in July in this thread. The pre-production model was on display at STEAM then. Edited September 16, 2013 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted September 17, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2013 Nearly misread this as the latest possible date of arrival but could arrive before, probably wistful thinking! Seriously I will be extremely disappointed if Lode Star is not a premium model with separately fitted hand rails etc. It was never billed as a Railroad model or design clever. In my view it will be a serious miscalculation by Hornby if the Star is built to the same, inferior standards as the 2-8-0/2-8-2 Tanks. While I accept that the Steam Model is at a premium price, the standard models are not much less and, in my view not design clever prices, as DoG and the P2. The Star was one of the seminal designs of the 20th Century and deserves to be replicated to the highest standards, unsullied by questionable cost cutting production methods. This is the model I wanted to be right. I hope I am not going to be too disappointed when the postman arrives! I'm going to buy one anyway, because it's the only game in town really. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 (edited) Swindon Steam Ltd Edition delivery date now 'Autumn' on their website 'this limited edition is expected during Autumn* 2013, but at present we do not have an exact delivery date.' and Hattons showing on or after Oct 21 for all editions Mike Wiltshire Edited September 23, 2013 by Coach bogie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG 7305 Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It seems to me that Hornby needs to sort out their packaging supremo; unless of course he is the company whipping boy. Best regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Warrior Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 The sample at Barrow Hill looked OK with the possible exception of the molded hand rail on the cab side. I understand that it could be with us soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 3, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2013 The sample at Barrow Hill looked OK with the possible exception of the molded hand rail on the cab side. I understand that it could be with us soon. As I have already posted elsewhwere,it's not the moulded handrails that jar so much as the awful name/numberplates which are going to need instant replacement on delivery. Yes,I did see the samples at Barrow Hill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Steam Swindon now stating availability "from mid November". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Steam Swindon now stating availability "from mid November".The slow roll continues. It's like waiting for a (mechanically) delayed flight at the airport while the airline logistics people scramble to find a replacement aircraft so they don't have to cancel the flight. The gate agents say something like this every half hour or so, "We've just had an update from control and it looks like the flight has been delayed for another 45 minutes." Not so long that you will leave and look for another airline and not so short that you will bug them every ten minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2013 Having been told by Steam that they were possibly expecting it to arrive before D1000 back at the turn of the year I retain the simplistic view that it will be here when it arrives and not before. Steam are simply putting their best interpretation (with probably a hint of caution?) on what they are being told by Hornby. Only sort of meaningful piece of past information from SK was that it was originally planned to airfreight the 'Stars' in for the Steam exhibition - looking on the bright side that might now translate as 'airfreight them in time for the Warley show, or maybe for Christmas. Our hopes might not be forlorn but I still doubt they'll get them here any sooner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwd Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 June? with Hornby involved, this year or next I wonder.......... My post from way back may not be such a joke after all....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 "Tomorrow, and tomorrow and tomorrow," to quote from the Bard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) "Tomorrow, and tomorrow and tomorrow," "Now is the winter of our discontent"? Perhaps a bit over the top - but literally discordant with a lot of RMweb posts regarding Hornby. (Of course it really means things are getting better, which we haven't seen yet.) Edited October 16, 2013 by Ozexpatriate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted October 16, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2013 Having been told by Steam that they were possibly expecting it to arrive before D1000 back at the turn of the year I retain the simplistic view that it will be here when it arrives and not before. Steam are simply putting their best interpretation (with probably a hint of caution?) on what they are being told by Hornby. Only sort of meaningful piece of past information from SK was that it was originally planned to airfreight the 'Stars' in for the Steam exhibition - looking on the bright side that might now translate as 'airfreight them in time for the Warley show, or maybe for Christmas. Our hopes might not be forlorn but I still doubt they'll get them here any sooner. When I paid in January, Geoff Davies told me a February release was imminent so maybe he'll be right after all.Can I claim a years interest on my sovs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2013 When I paid in January, Geoff Davies told me a February release was imminent so maybe he'll be right after all.Can I claim a years interest on my sovs. If you truly paid in Sovereigns, Rob, you are clearly a man of substance, who has no need of the interest! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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