RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2017 Chris have you been reading Michael Caine's book "Not Alot of People Know That" again. BTW are your garage doors laying up at the other end of the drive way. Imagine the guffaws when Lord Hereford's Knob steamed into Bristols stations. Philth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 26, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2017 There was almost a Bulleid Light Pacific called "Brown Willy" iirc. This is actually the highest point on Bodmin Moor - 1378'. Imagine the sniggering these days... Been there, walked up that about 30-something years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Been there, walked up that about 30-something years ago. Never knew which was which - Brown Willy or Rough Tor; still don't! Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2017 There was almost a Bulleid Light Pacific called "Brown Willy" iirc. This is actually the highest point on Bodmin Moor - 1378'. Imagine the sniggering these days... Oh wow! Given that all the place name on my layout are fictionalised/camouflaged, perhaps I could do the same to my locos so that the Pentowan portion of the ACE would be hauled by Brown Willy rather than Bodmin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2017 Been there, walked up that about 30-something years ago. I'll see your "walked up 30 years ago" and raise you "pony-trekked with the Scouts from Capel-y-ffin in 1971" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2017 We seemed to be floundering in the De Lenk river at times, I think. And Brian is right about the two summits - hardly peaks! - as I can't quite recall which from t'other either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted August 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) I have one ordered and I have sufficient stock and a layout large enough to run a train that size. Long trains are a bit of fun for me. Pendon has a prototypical 47xx running. Edited August 27, 2017 by OnTheBranchline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Gough Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) I have recently purchased a Bachmann No.4965 Rood Ashton Hall split from the Shakespeare Express train pack, mainly because I like the fully lined GWR livery and the pairing with the 3500 gallon tender. I guess this is correct for this loco in preservation? I believe the early Halls were paired with 3500 gallon tenders? Can any of you GWR Hall experts provide me with a few name/number combinations. I have the plates for 4953 Pitchford Hall, would this be a possible candidate? Glenn - Hall's well that ends well! 4953 Pitchford Hall had a similar tender in 1934 (Churchward flush-riveted 3500 gallon). Other possibilities for that year are, 4904, 4906, 4908, 4909, 4912, 4915, 4917, 4919, 4921, 4922, 4926, 4935, 4936, 4939, 4940, 4941, 4943, 4946, 4947, 4951, 4958, 4959, 4976, 5900. 4965 Rood Ashton Hall, however, had a Collett 4000 gallon and, I believe, only ran with that type prior to preservation. Tender numbers for each locomotive are listed in the Wild Swan 'Great Western Railway Locomotive Allocations for 1934'. This notes that it reflects the tender allocations at the end of that year. Of course 1934 was when the 'shirtbutton' GWR roundel was introduced. However, it's likely that most tenders still carried 'GREAT (crest) WESTERN' at the year's end and tenders were usually only changed or painted during works visits. Edited August 28, 2017 by Nick Gough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 Pendon has a prototypical 47xx running. Bully for them. I wonder what my Cotswold Kit one will pull when it's finished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 Bully for them. I wonder what my Cotswold Kit one will pull when it's finished. Plenty of weight there Bob - the Cotswold kit makes up into quite a hefty engine and with a decent motor it should manage quite easily pulling down the side of a house. BTW let's not forget that in real life the 47XX and 'Hall' were in the same Power Class (D) so were allowed some similar loads, except for the 'Halls' with the additional (white) X power rating which were allowed heavier loads on certain freight trains. For passenger working there were some interesting differences - effectively the 47XX was allowed one coach more than other Class D engines on level or slightly graded sections but oddly (in view of their smaller wheels) that advantage was reduced to around no more than 15-20 tons, and in some cases no difference at all, on the heavily graded sections. (One strange exception was climbing Hemerdon where a 47XX and a 68Xx were allowed the same load but a 'Hall' was allowed 13 tons less than them.) Plus of course the 47XX was restricted to 60mph when working passenger trains ad they were in any case very unpopular with Enginemen, especially Firemen, when used on long distance passenger trains on Summer Saturdays in later years. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 4953 Pitchford Hall had a similar tender in 1934 (Churchward flush-riveted 3500 gallon). Other possibilities for that year are, 4904, 4906, 4908, 4909, 4912, 4915, 4917, 4919, 4921, 4922, 4926, 4935, 4936, 4939, 4940, 4941, 4943, 4946, 4947, 4951, 4958, 4959, 4976, 5900. 4965 Rood Ashton Hall, however, had a Collett 4000 gallon and, I believe, only ran with that type prior to preservation. Tender numbers for each locomotive are listed in the Wild Swan 'Great Western Railway Locomotive Allocations for 1934'. This notes that it reflects the tender allocations at the end of that year. Of course 1934 was when the 'shirtbutton' GWR roundel was introduced. However, it's likely that most tenders still carried 'GREAT (crest) WESTERN' at the year's end and tenders were usually only changed or painted during works visits. Thanks Nick, 4953 it is then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2017 Thanks Nick, 4953 it is then. I don't like that one, it deeply offends me, and it spilt my pint. Pick another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingleycustom Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I don't like that one, it deeply offends me, and it spilt my pint. Pick another... 'Ave an 'eart guv'nor, it's the only one I've got, in it?! I shall get on with more Bulleids immediately: 34007, 10 & 40 are next to join the fleet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 Plenty of weight there Bob - the Cotswold kit makes up into quite a hefty engine and with a decent motor it should manage quite easily pulling down the side of a house. BTW let's not forget that in real life the 47XX and 'Hall' were in the same Power Class (D) so were allowed some similar loads, except for the 'Halls' with the additional (white) X power rating which were allowed heavier loads on certain freight trains. For passenger working there were some interesting differences - effectively the 47XX was allowed one coach more than other Class D engines on level or slightly graded sections but oddly (in view of their smaller wheels) that advantage was reduced to around no more than 15-20 tons, and in some cases no difference at all, on the heavily graded sections. (One strange exception was climbing Hemerdon where a 47XX and a 68Xx were allowed the same load but a 'Hall' was allowed 13 tons less than them.) Plus of course the 47XX was restricted to 60mph when working passenger trains ad they were in any case very unpopular with Enginemen, especially Firemen, when used on long distance passenger trains on Summer Saturdays in later years. . I haven't weighed it yet but it's HEAVY, I'm having problems fitting a motor into it I've several choices a Romford Bulldog, MRRC XO5 or an ex Airfix Prairie motor I was hoping to use an Anchorage D13 but it doesn't seem man enough for the job, I've put it to one side for the moment with the other white casts locomotive kits to be finished this winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 28, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 Anyone up for seeing a couple of Castles on a bank holiday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Anyone up for seeing a couple of Castles on a bank holiday.Here's two for starters ... D.Aftsod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 Can't get enough Castles, has Spitfire made an appearance yet? I did see it arriving at Brent this morning... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 28, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 Swindon museum. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2017 Love Castles. Fortunately I'll be able to run a couple on The Junction (diverted WR services) with one train hopefully having the actual loco that hauled it back in 1960 I think (maybe '61). Some great pics there Rob. Thanks a lot. Phil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 28, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 A pannier never offends, 9400. Caption contest. Seen in a cabinet. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2017 Love Castles. Fortunately I'll be able to run a couple on The Junction (diverted WR services) with one train hopefully having the actual loco that hauled it back in 1960 I think (maybe '61). Some great pics there Rob. Thanks a lot. Phil Granges and Castles, you might need to change SJ for Tivvy Junction. OK, I'm leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Removes for duplication Edited August 28, 2017 by Siberian Snooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 28, 2017 A pannier never offends, 9400. DSCN1885 (2).JPG DSCN1886 (2).JPG DSCN1888 (2).JPG Caption contest. DSCN1889 (2).JPG Seen in a cabinet. DSCN1883 (2).JPG I said stopppp!!!! Edit for predictive text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 May I ask a quick question to the ANTB parishioners please ? Does anyone know of a transfer ( decal ugh! ) manufacturer that produces the word " LARGE " on a sheet as I would like to use them on GWR Cattle wagon ends. ( 4mm ) I've trawled 'tinterweb without success so far and maybe, just maybe someone might just know ? Thank you Grahame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold colin penfold Posted August 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2017 PC models sheet 11 GWR wagon insignia only has "small" and the letters L M and S. Not good news but hopefully helpful for elimination purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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