A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.

[cary hill]

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Don't thank me...

 

For years I thought Camilla was the "third person" in that marriage but it turns out to have been RAILMAIL.....

Edited May 21, 2016 by cary hill

[gwrrob]

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Is this kit as good as the Parkside version or isn't there much in it except price.

[colin penfold]

I have built coopercraft wagon kits (bought when coopercraft was a real company that made and sold kits) and they were pretty good

[Trains&armour]

Is this kit as good as the Parkside version or isn't there much in it except price.

I don't know much about the Ian Kirk kit range, but the one I have has basic couplings and no wheels, whereas the Parkside kit comes with wheels and mounting blocks for Bachmann NEM pockets.

[The Fatadder]

If I remember rightly some of the parkside range originally was the kirk kits, so I assume very similar (just the parkside kit has done more modern refinements.

[St Enodoc]

Is this kit as good as the Parkside version or isn't there much in it except price.

Kirk kits were of their time - late 1970s - and were originally marketed as "basic kits", which they were. Nothing wrong with that and back then they were the only way to get a decent number of O13s in a reasonable time (i.e. without scratchbuilding). However, I wouldn't buy or build one nowadays as the Parkside kit is considerably better in every respect.

 

Ian Kirk is active on RMWeb so may well wish to comment himself, although I don't know if he follows this topic. The Parkside brand is of course a descendant of the Kirk brand.

 

 

I still have about 20 Kirk clay tips in service. Here is a short train of them in action. I built them over 35 years ago and they were weathered by Barry O of this parish. The rear two have modified underframes to represent the BR-built vacuum-fitted version.

 

Edit: the loco is a Nu-Cast 16xx which was weathered by the late Paul Fletcher.

Edited May 21, 2016 by St Enodoc

[St Enodoc]

If I remember rightly some of the parkside range originally was the kirk kits, so I assume very similar (just the parkside kit has done more modern refinements.

Rich, that's right but the Parkside O13 is, as far as I know, from completely new tooling.

 

Usual disclaimer.

[Fat Controller]

Rich, that's right but the Parkside O13 is, as far as I know, from completely new tooling.

 

Usual disclaimer.

It is, along with a few other GWR types on 16'6" underframes, such as a Gunpowder Van, a MICA, O11/15 open, Mink A and Banana Van.

[Tim Dubya]

Ian Kirk is active on RMWeb so may well wish to comment himself, although I don't know if he follows this topic. The Parkside brand is of course a descendant of the Kirk brand.

 

Well if he doesn't follow this topic - what's he doing on RMWeb?

[gwrrob]

Before I weather it any thoughts this morning.

 

 

[2ManySpams]

Interesting Swindon photo showing the interior of a private owner wagon converted to clay use. Zinc floor and metal interior strapping.

 

[St Enodoc]

Before I weather it any thoughts this morning.

 

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Rob, there's something that doens't look quite right. Is it the wheelbase? Should be 9' for a wagon of that kind.

[Waraqah]

St Austell, the home of High Speed Diesel, yum!

 

Growing up around Mutley we always knew it as High Speed Death.

 

Of course, this stage   came first.

[gwrrob]

Rob, there's something that doens't look quite right. Is it the wheelbase? Should be 9' for a wagon of that kind.

Yes the wheelbase is a 10 footer.

[St Enodoc]

Yes the wheelbase is a 10 footer.

Ah, that probably explains it. The body is likely to be 17' 6" in that case. Clay wagons were 16' 6" to fit the tipplers at Fowey.

 

I've had three of these sheets for a number of years:

 

At one time I intended to build them and put them on Peco chassis, but frankly they are way out of period for me so that is unlikely to happen. If they are any use to you (or anyone else) I would be happy to post them on.

 

Edit - these are 5 plank opens without end doors, so probably used to carry coal to the dries rather than clay the other way.

Edited May 22, 2016 by St Enodoc

[gwrrob]

Talking of modellers licence and plenty on shew this morning as a pannier,3796, runs wrong line with an up coal train working.

 

 

 

 

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A light dusting of Revell matt white.

 

[colin penfold]

You  will  be pleased to know Parkside Dundas are at Railex. Wanna give them a call and tell them to stock up on O13 s   ????????

[gwrrob]

You  will  be pleased to know Parkside Dundas are at Railex. Wanna give them a call and tell them to stock up on O13 s   ????????

Why are you all going to treat me to some...

[Tim Dubya]

Why are you all going to treat me to some...

 

It's all gone quiet on here for some reason?

[Mallard60022]

It's all gone quiet on here for some reason?

Yes, it's the quiet contemplation of the loneliness of the little Telegraph Pole that looks so forlorn sat there. Poor thing feels really inferior to the bl##dy great tall one near by.

I want to adopt it and look after it.

A.G. Bell.

[gwrrob]

Unbelievably following that post of St Enoduc earlier I actually have one of those wagons on a Peco underframe.Spams will probably smack me one if I were to use it...

 

 

 

 

My old stock box of junk is a bit like Mr Benn's dressing up box from the 70s.

[Captain Kernow]

Unbelievably following that post of St Enoduc earlier I actually have one of those wagons on a Peco underframe.Spams will probably smack me one if I were to use it...

 

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My old stock box of junk is a bit like Mr Benn's dressing up box from the 70s.

Wagons featuring love-ins are a bit risqué, even for Peco in the 1970s.

Talking of modellers licence and plenty on shew this morning as a pannier,3796, runs wrong line with an up coal train working.

 

 

I assume he will stop to set the Pilotman down?

 

Is this to do with relaying up at Wrangaton again?

[Oldddudders]

Yes, it's the quiet contemplation of the loneliness of the little Telegraph Pole that looks so forlorn sat there. Poor thing feels really inferior to the bl##dy great tall one near by.

I want to adopt it and look after it.

A.G. Bell.

 

I think the duck needs help.....