RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2014 Glad these have finally landed, I've just ordered one. I'm sure I've seen photos of the one that was used in passenger trains on the Kyle Line (ADM 45028) with Highland Rail stags on the sides? I can't find one now though! Can anyone confirm this? Cheers, Rick Not with Stags but at Kyle https://www.flickr.com/photos/16205328@N02/8514623736 and at Inverness https://www.flickr.com/photos/terry47401/10082829343 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Chaps, some of you are getting confused between two entirely different prototypes. The one Bachmann have produced is an ex-LMS Inspection saloon, originally a non-passenger carrying vehicle (apart from some use on the Kyle line in the 80's as a revenue spinner when redundant from its main role) used by Inspectors to inspect track, lineside equipment, engineering work, etc. I think Rick and BR(S) are confusing this with the ex Class 101 DMU vehicle converted for use on the Kyle line in the 80's exclusively as an attraction and as a means of extracting more cash from tourists. The latter is not available in this configuration as an RTR model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 And DM45029 in a special next to the locos 22/7/79 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted August 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 8, 2014 . I think Rick and BR(S) are confusing this with the ex Class 101 DMU vehicle converted for use on the Kyle line in the 80's exclusively as an attraction and as a means of extracting more cash from tourists. The latter is not available in this configuration as an RTR model. Yet.............. Cue a Ltd Ed release. Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted August 8, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 8, 2014 and at Inverness https://www.flickr.com/photos/terry47401/10082829343 That happens to be the very one produced by Bachmann in blue/grey livery so that means you can legitimately run it as part of a passenger train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_Skateboard Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Thanks for the replies and the picture links. I am aware of the different carriages, there's been several carriages used as observation carrs on the Kyle Line over the years, an exDevon Belle Obs, Caledonian Saloon No.41, GWR Saloon No.9004, the LMS Inspection Saloon and the exClass 101 DMU trailer. There may be more. I've still got it in my head that I've seen a picture of the LMS Inspection Saloon with white stags on it, I just can't find any evidence of it now! Cheers, Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 With reference to the Scottish version, in motive power monthly issue august 1986, page 45, is a photograph of a blue/grey saloon with Scottie dog emblems on the bodyside mid way down. If thats any help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 And perversely the photo's really don't do it justice - in the actual plastic, it is a thoroughly delightful model and well worth the equivalent of 2/3rds a tank of diesel, I can catch the bus to work for a week - hang on, what do I use for bus fare ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Mine arrived this morning and was pressed in to service before adding the detail pieces. Wow what a great model A few piccies If you are using Kadee couplings it looks like #18 is perfect and the NEM pocket is not far off the correct height It is interesting to not that the bogies have electrical pickups fitted. This has got me thinking about some lighting possibilities 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Chaps, some of you are getting confused between two entirely different prototypes. The one Bachmann have produced is an ex-LMS Inspection saloon, originally a non-passenger carrying vehicle (apart from some use on the Kyle line in the 80's as a revenue spinner when redundant from its main role) used by Inspectors to inspect track, lineside equipment, engineering work, etc. I think Rick and BR(S) are confusing this with the ex Class 101 DMU vehicle converted for use on the Kyle line in the 80's exclusively as an attraction and as a means of extracting more cash from tourists. The latter is not available in this configuration as an RTR model. BR(S) hasn't gone senile just yet and can tell the difference between an ex-LMS saloon and 101!! Just wondered whether Rick_Skateboard had wrongly remembered what he saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Mine arrived this morning and was pressed in to service before adding the detail pieces. Wow what a great model A few piccies 20140809_104438_Android.jpg20140809_104504_Android.jpg20140809_104554_Android.jpg20140809_104618_Android.jpg20140809_105058_Android.jpg If you are using Kadee couplings it looks like #18 is perfect and the NEM pocket is not far off the correct height 20140809_105236_Android.jpg20140809_105409_Android.jpg It is interesting to not that the bogies have electrical pickups fitted. This has got me thinking about some lighting possibilities I'm curious to know how the coupling height compares to the Kadee height gauge. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcadian Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Mine arrived this morning and was pressed in to service before adding the detail pieces. Wow what a great model A few piccies If you are using Kadee couplings it looks like #18 is perfect and the NEM pocket is not far off the correct height Thanks, Tigger! Wow! What a fantastic model - at first glance, I thought you'd used photos of a full-size one, but no, this paintwork is better! Second thought was 'So that's what 7mm, 0 Gauge models are like now, is it?' Finally, I realised this is Bachmann's 00 gauge model, straight from the box (except for coupling change). Now I can see why the prices have become what they are today, and now I know why I'm willing to pay them! OK, today's (and tomorrow's) prices for RTR mean that as a pensioner, I will need to be selective, and consider what will be of use on my railway, rather than what do I 'need' (technically, nothing, but want is a different matter!), but self-discipline and getting one's priorities right never really do any harm! Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Taken the plunge and ordered one, there must be a photo somewhere of one on the S&D. I think the price is very good for something with, possibly, limited appeal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I think the price is very good for something with, possibly, limited appeal. I imagine it will have a very wide appeal across the whole spectrum of modelling. It was always an awkward model to build with more going on inside and on the roof than folk might imagine, and seeing as Bachmann is doing a number of key liveries, it is just a matter of waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted August 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2014 We've often read of modellers who need short trains because of lack of space.....here's the answer to their prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold slow8dirty Posted August 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2014 Taken the plunge and ordered one, there must be a photo somewhere of one on the S&D. I think the price is very good for something with, possibly, limited appeal. http://www.asgq57.dsl.pipex.com/3218/s&d/branch/specials/641013-1418-D6320.jpg http://www.asgq57.dsl.pipex.com/3218/s&d/branch/specials/641013-1419-D6320.jpg Ok it is in fact a WR one in the pics, but sufficient justification for this and a 22 to shuffle onto my S&D might have been every so often 8) Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold slow8dirty Posted August 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 9, 2014 Photos you posted show a GWR design in Western Region brown & cream my friend, not LMS. Another point, the S&DJR shut before corporate blue arrived. I know. To clarify I posted the pics for JZs benefit as they seem to be the only commonly available shots of any inspection saloon or a 22 on the S&D whilst open. I also suspect Jz as well as myself is aware of when the S&D closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 In my world the Western Region never got it's hands on the S&D, so an xLMS one is ideal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I'm curious to know how the coupling height compares to the Kadee height gauge. John As you can see below the coupling sits a little low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 As you can see below the coupling sits a little low 20140809_174312_Android.jpg Maybe wedging a sliver of something underneath will cure that. Recent offerings from Bachmann have all been about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I will play about an see if I can improve the height, thanks JZ Now for the bag of detailing bits and where do they go I know that F are the fixed couplings and I think that A,B.C, and E go where I have indicated If I am correct (probably not!) can anyone tell me where D goes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Just ordered mine the Saloon will have to run over the Croxley Wiggenhall Road & Junction extension when it is completed, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I will play about an see if I can improve the height, thanks JZ Now for the bag of detailing bits and where do they go 20140809_181321_Android.jpg I know that F are the fixed couplings and I think that A,B.C, and E go where I have indicated 20140809_104504A_Android.jpg If I am correct (probably not!) can anyone tell me where D goes please Between C & B there is a hole below the buffer beam for D to fit into. Kev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Between C & B there is a hole below the buffer beam for D to fit into. Kev. Oh yes I have seen it now, it was hidden by the NEM pocket. It looks like that may have to be removed if I am going to fully detail one end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I have one So inspection saloon been stabled at depot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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