RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted November 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2017 there were many of these rail mounted hand cranes, the chassis were built specially for them and not just old wagon chassis', some of them on the midland were later re used as yard cranes by fixing them down to a short length of track southern https://www.flickr.com/photos/94416723@N00/14020213951 LNWR https://antstrainphotos.smugmug.com/Midland-Railway-Centre/Railway-Wagons-Cranes/i-VmMtK58/A GNR http://www.nrm.org.uk/ourcollection/locomotivesandrollingstock/CollectionItem?objid=1978-7120 Thank you for those pics. I have probably seen something like this at the museums and even possibly on the railway itself many years back but, for some reason, such cranes did not grab my attention in the same way as this photo. There is nothing like seeing something actually in use for grabbing your attention I guess. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Sorry can't supply pictures but this is a real incident, I was disptched with guard from Man Vic to Preston to drag DMU back to Longsight with a class 47. On arrival at Preston PCD we discovered that the damage to the DMU meant we couldn't get the brakes of as the vac pipe casting behind the buffer beam was fractured. We returned to Bolton to pick up BG(wheel flats for Longsight lathe) to act as a brakevan to run class9, however cl9 trains were banned on the WCML. Control arranged a loco for the rear to run upto Euxton jnc where it was dettached and we then proceeded to LO at 25mph. The trailing loco was a 91 all this was back in the very late 80's around midnight. An interesting combo 47, 2car 108, red BG and an Intercity livered 91. I believe the 108 may have hit the rear of an HST at low speed. Anyone recollect any thing ? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 8, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2017 Thank you for those pics. I have probably seen something like this at the museums and even possibly on the railway itself many years back but, for some reason, such cranes did not grab my attention in the same way as this photo. There is nothing like seeing something actually in use for grabbing your attention I guess. Thanks again. Some more here from the GWR: http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v26/p926581985-3.jpg (Paul Bartlett) http://www.nrm.org.uk/globalmedia/NRM_CT_960076_2.png (NRM) Seem to be fairly common. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 Sorry can't supply pictures but this is a real incident, I was disptched with guard from Man Vic to Preston to drag DMU back to Longsight with a class 47. On arrival at Preston PCD we discovered that the damage to the DMU meant we couldn't get the brakes of as the vac pipe casting behind the buffer beam was fractured. We returned to Bolton to pick up BG(wheel flats for Longsight lathe) to act as a brakevan to run class9, however cl9 trains were banned on the WCML. Control arranged a loco for the rear to run upto Euxton jnc where it was dettached and we then proceeded to LO at 25mph. The trailing loco was a 91 all this was back in the very late 80's around midnight. An interesting combo 47, 2car 108, red BG and an Intercity livered 91. I believe the 108 may have hit the rear of an HST at low speed. Anyone recollect any thing ? I wonder what a 91 was doing at Preston in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I wonder what a 91 was doing at Preston in the first place? They were built at Crewe, possibly on a test run to Preston and back? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2017 Sorry can't embed the photo. Blue Class 40 on down parcels at High Dyke on ECML with bauxite 4w box vans and blue Hawksworth BG on the (presumed) end https://flic.kr/p/9An446 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Sorry can't embed the photo. Blue Class 40 on down parcels at High Dyke on ECML with bauxite 4w box vans and blue Hawksworth BG on the (presumed) end https://flic.kr/p/9An446 There were two of these that ended their days in internal use at TCFD (Tyneside Central Freight Depot) Gateshead. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/internal04xxxxer Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I wonder what a 91 was doing at Preston in the first place? Now that should of cause be a 90, still an interesting combo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted November 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2017 Sorry can't embed the photo. Blue Class 40 on down parcels at High Dyke on ECML with bauxite 4w box vans and blue Hawksworth BG on the (presumed) end https://flic.kr/p/9An446 This would at that date be a class 6 fully fitted freight working, with the guard riding in the back cab of the 40. He would not be riding in the Hawksworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 One from the John Turner collection maroon BR CCT with double arrow and Express Parcels branding, Bristol c. 1971. I've got to sneak this into my parcels train on the club layout! Note the freshly applied W , wonder if it's a transfer from another region seems to hint at the sort of thing the LMR would do rather than the WR. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/36590343811/in/album-72157604142594351/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 One from the John Turner collection maroon BR CCT with double arrow and Express Parcels branding, Bristol c. 1971. I've got to sneak this into my parcels train on the club layout! Note the freshly applied W , wonder if it's a transfer from another region seems to hint at the sort of thing the LMR would do rather than the WR. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/36590343811/in/album-72157604142594351/ I would suspect the Western did it, as the font on both the W and the Express Parcels are the same and look to have aged the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) One from the John Turner collection maroon BR CCT with double arrow and Express Parcels branding, Bristol c. 1971. I've got to sneak this into my parcels train on the club layout! Note the freshly applied W , wonder if it's a transfer from another region seems to hint at the sort of thing the LMR would do rather than the WR. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/36590343811/in/album-72157604142594351/ Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I suspect the BR logo, "W" and "Rail Express Parcels" in white lettering are recent at the time of the photo (this lettering only seems to have come in around 1970), with the rest of the lettering in older yellow style. The photo caption suggests it had recently been transferred from the LMR which makes sense. Edited November 9, 2017 by Signaller69 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 One from the John Turner collection maroon BR CCT with double arrow and Express Parcels branding, Bristol c. 1971. I've got to sneak this into my parcels train on the club layout! Note the freshly applied W , wonder if it's a transfer from another region seems to hint at the sort of thing the LMR would do rather than the WR. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/36590343811/in/album-72157604142594351/ Goodness me, I don't think I have seen a maroon vehicle with that parcels lettering before. An excellent find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 Was it common for CCTs to be lined in maroon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Was it common for CCTs to be lined in maroon? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Was it common for CCTs to be lined in maroon? GUVs and BGs as well (under the muck) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Goodness me, I don't think I have seen a maroon vehicle with that parcels lettering before. An excellent find. Even GUV's with Express Parcels lettering in maroon. See link below on John Turners excellent Flickr pages for this example, and many others. Highly recommended to have a look if you like old Parcels stuff and wagons. Some gems in there. https://flic.kr/p/ZZ6Q98 Paul J. Edited to correct silly spelling mistake, spotted as soon as I posted. Doh. Edited November 10, 2017 by Swindon 123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 Even if you have bought lots of locos, but have very few parcels vehicles; that is no reason not to have more of the former than the latter in one train. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 That van must be packed with gold bullion to need two locos to move it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2017 That van must be packed with gold bullion to need two locos to move it! It's a footballer/racing driver/politician (delete as necessary) moving his salary to an offshore account! Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 Apologies for the poor quality, but sadly I can't pre-order the sharpness of slides I purchase in boxes mainly unseen. I wonder what is the probability of catching these two services together? Either the photographer was unbelievably lucky, or he/she had detailed timings and took his/her chances. This is 20087 plus ano passing 47803 in 1993. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2017 That van must be packed with gold bullion to need two locos to move it! Nah - 47s are that unreliable, it needs two of them to make sure the train gets there................ Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2017 In Tralee the buffer stops are so far along the platform that trains can't enterthe train shed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 25090 25090 it's bad enough trying to get the transfers lined up once, but twice! https://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/6590913569/in/pool-683810@N20/ On the otherside, should I go to Specsavers or would you say thats not level? http://www.martinbray-ukloco.com/images/class25/25090-manvic-310582.jpg 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted November 26, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2017 In Tralee the buffer stops are so far along the platform that trains can't enterthe train shed.20171014_144359.jpg There is presumably a good reason for this....anyone....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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