Professor Plumtree Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Whilst it is clear there is still much work to be done in phase 2, are there any plans for a phase 3 to improve resilience, e,g. Canadian Railway style covers (mini tunnels) west of Dawlish? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly1941 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I tried this yesterday but had problems. With the news of steps at each end I can't actually visualize how this works. So, in my old age I came up with a few ideas of my own as to how this MIGHT work. Sorry if it's nowhere near the mark, but it's just a whim and a vision lol. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2015 Whilst it is clear there is still much work to be done in phase 2, are there any plans for a phase 3 to improve resilience, e,g. Canadian Railway style covers (mini tunnels) west of Dawlish? Any major plans for future resilience are for consideration at a senior level within NR and the ORR. There is no 'phase 3' as such, also no one in the industry is referring to the current works as 'phase 2'. The current works where the low level walkway is being raised should be completed by early summer, after that it will be a case of on-going routine maintenance until such time as any further resilience is announced by the aforementioned senior parites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBSD Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Wall Update.Now that the Seariser is in it's final position we should see the first of the remaining 18 L sections arrive by boat on this evenings high tide. They should all be in position by the weekend and then the Seariser is free to leave for port. If i have an exact day and time i will let you know. There is another closure this weekend from 4am saturday morning until 10am sunday so we should also see quite a bit of work undertaken from the trackside too.The latest estimates for completion are now sometime in June but obviously this is always dependent on tide and weather conditions. The beach will remain out of bounds to the public until completion due to Health and Safety issues as some heavy plant may still be using the site. From my latest post on Dawlish Beach 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2015 Wall Update. Now that the Seariser is in it's final position we should see the first of the remaining 18 L sections arrive by boat on this evenings high tide. Two barges with 2 'L' sections on each observed from the train this afternoon, bobbing along on the swell from Teignmouth to JUB1. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2015 Two barges with 2 'L' sections on each observed from the train this afternoon, bobbing along on the swell from Teignmouth to JUB1. Sounds like Ralph Reader and the Boy Scouts gang show - I'm bobbing along on the crest of a wave, L sections on my back ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Any major plans for future resilience are for consideration at a senior level within NR and the ORR. There is no 'phase 3' as such, also no one in the industry is referring to the current works as 'phase 2'. The current works where the low level walkway is being raised should be completed by early summer, after that it will be a case of on-going routine maintenance until such time as any further resilience is announced by the aforementioned senior parites. Until the sea blows a big hole in it somewhere else and the whole saga starts again! Sadly, it isn't a question of if this will happen but when. ROB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2015 Sounds like Ralph Reader and the Boy Scouts gang show - Great find Mike! Reminds me of 'It ain't half hot mum' concert party! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Great find Mike! Reminds me of 'It ain't half hot mum' concert party! But kind of creepier......... Best, Pete. PS I was never a Boy Scout. Edited March 22, 2015 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Great find Mike! Reminds me of 'It ain't half hot mum' concert party! Reminds me of the Golder's Green Hippodrome in the 1950's. Our scout group had a trip down to London every year to take in the sights and Ralph Readers show. Life was a lot simpler then and no suggestion of "creepy". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2015 Until the sea blows a big hole in it somewhere else and the whole saga starts again! Sadly, it isn't a question of if this will happen but when. I'd be very interested to know whether you have any particular or unique insight into the likelihood of this happening, Rob, or whether this is purely speculation your part, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted March 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2015 According to the Spotlight news tonight all the "L" sections are now in place and JUB 1 will be towed back to Teignmouth on tomorrows high tide weather permitting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Our scout troop put on a gang show but thank god I only sat at the back of the stage cant sing that's my excuse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Our scout troop put on a gang show but thank god I only sat at the back of the stage cant sing that's my excuse! So did mine, thank the lord, I was only a scenery shifter! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly1941 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Tug Kingston is at present arriving in Lyme Bay for the assistance of moving Seariser if tides are favourable later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly1941 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Well, tugs back, including Kingston at Teignmouth dock as the 'riser didn't move, possibly due to heavy swell. Gangway replaced on platform to wall and a little work done with jib. Army gone for a brunch by the looks of it. Sorry, did I say jib instead of crane. Definitely the wrong shape lol. Edited March 23, 2015 by Saintly1941 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJD Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 If this works for you, the Network Rail webcam is still viewable, together with history and time-lapse. https://www.lobstervision.tv/home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted March 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2015 If this works for you, the Network Rail webcam is still viewable, together with history and time-lapse. https://www.lobstervision.tv/home It wants me to log in but doesn't offer the option to create a log-in ID Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'd be very interested to know whether you have any particular or unique insight into the likelihood of this happening, Rob, or whether this is purely speculation your part, please? No insight but you'd have to be a VERY brave man to predict that this will not happen again. In battles between the sea and humankind we manage many glorious victories (and the amazing efforts to repair the wall this time around are one of those) but history tells us that the next defeat is always just around the corner. ROB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJD Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It wants me to log in but doesn't offer the option to create a log-in ID I started here: http://www.lobsterpictures.tv/site-monitoring then scrolled down to "Live Cameras". It seems to do something odd with the url - whatever site you then select it still shows the same. Perhaps it is so the you can only get there via their front page. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2015 No insight but you'd have to be a VERY brave man to predict that this will not happen again. In battles between the sea and humankind we manage many glorious victories (and the amazing efforts to repair the wall this time around are one of those) but history tells us that the next defeat is always just around the corner. ROB Or perhaps one with the appropriate level of knowledge of the current condition of the wall... As such, and in my personal opinion only, uninformed speculation forecasting woe and 'defeats' is not helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly1941 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 No change there then as it's still a refreshed view every 15 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Or perhaps one with the appropriate level of knowledge of the current condition of the wall... As such, and in my personal opinion only, uninformed speculation forecasting woe and 'defeats' is not helpful. Discussion on this forum is not going to affect the status of the wall and its maintenance one jot, be it helpful or unhelpful. There is no slight intended against the men and women who battle to keep the wall serviceable year in year out. I believe they do the best they can possibly do and on many occasions go beyond what could reasonably be expected of them. However, I still believe that in the unequal battle with the sea there will inevitably be further setbacks. I also have no doubt that these setbacks will be overcome, one way or another. ROB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted March 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2015 Discussion on this forum is not going to affect the status of the wall and its maintenance one jot, be it helpful or unhelpful. I don't disagree with a bit of 'discussion', but adverse speculation on possible future events, which isn't based on a specific knowledge of the current status of the Wall and the way it is actually maintained and operated, cannot be helpful, and may engender a more gloomy outlook on the part of others reading this thread than might be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJD Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 No change there then as it's still a refreshed view every 15 minutes. Well, the refresh is the same, but you can scroll back with a calendar, zoom in, and view the time-lapse until fairly recently. This is what I am seeing right now, with the barge about to move off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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