RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 2, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) More electrics at Hillmorton in the 1970s this afternoon. Hillmorton Class 86 E3189 down April 72 J2893 Hillmorton Class 85 poss 85013 up parcels June 75 J4367 Hillmorton Class 87 up June 75 J4474 Hillmorton Class 86 up June 75 J4478 86027 Hillmorton Class 86 down March 76 J5081 David Edited January 2, 2018 by DaveF 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a delightful set of photos from Hillmorton on the WCML. The way the early electric locos could chew the track up, makes me think the Mk1 coaches in that first photo could well be giving everyone a most lively ride! And that’s not a lineside fire in that last photo? I hope it was nothing very serious. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 2, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a delightful set of photos from Hillmorton on the WCML. The way the early electric locos could chew the track up, makes me think the Mk1 coaches in that first photo could well be giving everyone a most lively ride! And that’s not a lineside fire in that last photo? I hope it was nothing very serious. With warmest regards, Rob. I think it was something burning in the field further along, possibly old straw bales. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Although Electrics have never "floated my boat" with regards to modelling, your photos of them in the 70's are really nice to see David. thank you for sharing. There is a right mix of parcels stock in photo J4367, the 4th vehicle in being one of the rare LMS BG's painted in Blue/Grey livery. Paul J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Another fantastic set of ECML photos David. Thank you for posting. I love the cement train in J4087. A right old mix of wagon types. With regards to the 47 in C676, I don't think it is 1581. There is a suggestion of ETH fittings on the buffer beam, which would indicate one of the first 20 "Westinghouse" generator locos. Could it be a transposition error on the number and it is 1518 instead? I also think the 47 in J035 is a generator one as well, as there is a suggestion of an ETH cable beneath the RH buffer, but as to the number?????????? Thank you once again for sharing the photos with us, and best wishes for 2018, and even more photos. Paul J. I agree. Both C676 and J035 are "generators" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I think it was something burning in the field further along, possibly old straw bales. David Probably the entire field being burnt. Stubble burning where grain crops had been grown was normal in the 1970s and 80s. Perceived as way to sterilise the top layer of soil, get the stubble broken down as a nutrient for the next crop and not requiring ploughing before replant. For many sensible reasons it was banned from 1993. Modelling a black rough field would be a useful way of giving a 'blue period' model a physical time line indicator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stubble_burning Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2, 2018 I like the way you have caught the 87 in the patch of sunshine. It highlights the fact that the second mans windscreen wiper is missing..... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 2, 2018 J4478 is 86027, one of the small number fitted with a headlight in this period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2018 Hooray, another "Spot-the-Deltic" competition. Winnable, I reckon. #19 Royal Highland Fusilier? Keith Just catching up after the holidays. Definitely not 19 as the nameplate font is that used on the GD examples. It looks like 9011 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 3, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2018 The Cambrian Coast line today, mainly infrastructure photos but there is one train. near Llyngwril Cambrian Aug 69 J2264 Talsarnau Wales and Borders Class 158 down pass 23rd July 02 C25969 Criccieth view across railway 23rd July 01 C25594 Criccieth view towards Pwlhelli 23rd July 01 C25345 Criccieth view east 23rd July 01 C25346 David 36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a fantastic set of photos of the Cambrian Coast line. The first three show just how scenic the line is, and at the same time, how exposed to the elements too. The last two photos show views, each way, of how Criccieth station was back in 2001. Surely a good candidate for someone to have a go at making a model of it. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The Class 158 in photo C25969, is in the "Central Trains" green livery, although most probably de-branded, as the line had been transferred to the Wales & Borders franchise the previous year to your photo. Paul J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) Just catching up after the holidays. Definitely not 19 as the nameplate font is that used on the GD examples. It looks like 9011 to me. Yes, I think C726 has to be 9011. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=944629 Edited January 4, 2018 by Western Glory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hi, Dave. What a delightful set of photos from Hillmorton on the WCML. The way the early electric locos could chew the track up, makes me think the Mk1 coaches in that first photo could well be giving everyone a most lively ride! Those Mk1s would probably have been re-bogied with Commonwealth or B4 bogies to make then suitable for 100 MPH. BR1 bogies were (supposedly) restricted to 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 4, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2018 A few days ago I posted photos of a few locations in Scotland beginning with C and someone said there weren't any of Crianlarich. So today we have Crianlarich, without locomotives. Crianlarich view south July 73 C1349 Crianlarich July 73 C1351 Crianlarich loco shed 11th May 85 C6843 Crianlarich 11th May 85 C6844 Crianlarich 11th Oct 86 C8056 David 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 4, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the Crianlarich photo's. The station has been well captured in all of them. The first one is particularly good, and full of Scottish atmosphere, and good details for model making. There is quite a bit of permanent way material to be seen, and that adds to the atmosphere of the place. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) A belated Happy New Year to everyone. Now back and I've managed to spend the evening catching up on nearly two weeks of images. Just a note on J656, from the Chaloners Whin batch: it's interesting to see a picture of "Pinza" from that era, at the time when they were experimenting with relocating the Deltic horns for better audibility. "Pinza" was the guinea-pig for a modification that wasn't pursued with any other members of the fleet (all ultimately having them positioned on the top of the nose, at the outer edges of the windscreens). The experiment being trialled at this time with D9007 was to sink the horns into the nose in the upper corners on the front of the loco. ICBW but I believe that this modification was not repeated because use of the horns nearly blew the driver and secondman out of the cab (even worse if one of them was using the toilet in the leading nose end at the time!) - and it didn't greatly improve trackside audibility over them being by the buffer beam. AFAIR I've only ever seen one other picture of number 7 in this condition (IIRC it had full yellow ends by that time) so your picture is particularly valuable for modellers of the period, David. Edited January 5, 2018 by 35A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 5, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2018 This afternoon we are on the line from Newcastle to Sunderland and Middlesbrough. Pelaw Junction Clas 37 empties from Sunderland line 1st Aug 85 C7031 Boldon Colliery Brockley Whins Class 101 Sunderland to Newcastle 15th Aug 85 C7139 Wearmouth Class 101 Sunderland to Newcastle 23rd June 84 C6534 Seaham Jan 83 C5924 Seaton Carew Class 101 Newcastle to Middlesbrough April 84 C6494 David 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle to Sunderland and Middlesbrough photos. It's good seeing class 101's hard at work, and the class 37 on empties at Pelaw Junction, in the first photo' is so nostalgic. In C5924, at Seaham, in January, 1983, you can see the track in the middle of the photo leading to a building. I'm not fully sure what the building is though. A goods warehouse or engine shed? With warmest regards, Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 I was looking at another modellers passengers he had put in his coach, thinking to myself how many people wear bright red or yellow tops when traveling.....Have you shown C7139 before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 5, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) I was looking at another modellers passengers he had put in his coach, thinking to myself how many people wear bright red or yellow tops when traveling.....Have you shown C7139 before C7139 has only appeared once, but C7138 (16th November 2017, forum search works for it) is a Class 101 going the other way at the same location, with very similar passengers but the colour of their clothes are in a different order along the windows. David Edited January 5, 2018 by DaveF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 I was looking at another modellers passengers he had put in his coach, thinking to myself how many people wear bright red or yellow tops when traveling.....Have you shown C7139 before And blue rinse hair....... Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 And blue rinse hair....... Cheers, Mick Well that ain't you or me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2018 Well that ain't you or me. It used to be me - hair that is, not blue rinsed though. Cheers, Mck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted January 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2018 A belated Happy New Year to everyone. Now back and I've managed to spend the evening catching up on nearly two weeks of images. Just a note on J656, from the Chaloners Whin batch: it's interesting to see a picture of "Pinza" from that era, at the time when they were experimenting with relocating the Deltic horns for better audibility. "Pinza" was the guinea-pig for a modification that wasn't pursued with any other members of the fleet (all ultimately having them positioned on the top of the nose, at the outer edges of the windscreens). The experiment being trialled at this time with D9007 was to sink the horns into the nose in the upper corners on the front of the loco. ICBW but I believe that this modification was not repeated because use of the horns nearly blew the driver and secondman out of the cab (even worse if one of them was using the toilet in the leading nose end at the time!) - and it didn't greatly improve trackside audibility over them being by the buffer beam. AFAIR I've only ever seen one other picture of number 7 in this condition (IIRC it had full yellow ends by that time) so your picture is particularly valuable for modellers of the period, David. Well spotted, I had missed that the first time. D9007 got full yellow ends and the first set of ETH equipment from Dec 1966 to January 1967, and only ran for 6 months in the condition shown in David's photo. The horns were removed and blue paint applied in September/October 1968; there are a few photos in green full yellow ends, but I have seen only two others with the small yellow ends. http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/0204.htm http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/7_23-8-66.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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