Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

 

Today we have Birmingham New Street in 1979 and Silk Mill Junction in 1966.

 

Once again they are some of Dad's photos. He took the Birmingham photos while on his way to a business meeting in Exeter.

 

The 1966 photos were taken on the way either to or from a holiday in Appledore, North Devon to stay with some friends and go sailing. They are probably the only photos I have of hydraulics in BR service which I haven't posted earlier in this thread.

 

Taunton Silk Mill crossing Class 42 D827 Kelly down Aug 66 J577.jpg

Taunton Silk Mill crossing Class 42 D827 Kelly down Aug 66 J577

 

David

 

I'm giving this a bump because caption still reads D827. There are two good reasons why this is not correct:

 

1. The number is clearly D84-something.

2. D827 was never maroon!

 

No criticism of Dave intended.

 

 

Thanks for pointing out that I hadn't changed the caption.  Usually I do when someone points out my errors, in this case I clicked thanks on your post but was in a hurry as I had to be somewhere else and then forgot all about it when I got back home.

 

David

 

Edit - I have now changed it to D84x on the image you see when you go to the post, but cannot change the caption which appears on the enlarged photo if you click on it without deleting it and re uploading it which does not always work well.

 

David

Edited October 11, 2018 by DaveF

[Western Glory]

Thanks for pointing out that I hadn't changed the caption. Usually I do when someone points out my errors, in this case I clicked thanks on your post but was in a hurry as I had to be somewhere else and then forgot all about it when I got back home.

 

David

 

Edit - I have now changed it to D84x on the image you see when you go to the post, but cannot change the caption which appears on the enlarged photo if you click on it without deleting it and re uploading it which does not always work well.

 

David

Thanks, I believe we can do better than D84x, though. When I plumped for D842 I hadn't checked which D84x carried maroon and there were only four: D840/2/4/8.

 

The third digit in the photo is different from the others which rules out D844/8 and looks like '2' to me, as it has a horizontal at the bottom. A '0' would be quite easy to spot, I think. In summary, it would be safe to say "probably D842."

 

Sorry for being so fussy but there might not be another Warship to identify.

 

.

Edited October 12, 2018 by Western Glory

[Enterprisingwestern]

Sorry for being so fussy but there might not be another Warship to identify..

 

Plenty of flamin' Deltics though I'll wager!

 

Mike.

[brushman47544]

Thanks, I believe we can do better than D84x, though. When I plumped for D842 I hadn't checked which D84x carried maroon and there were only four: D840/2/4/8.

 

The third digit in the photo is different from the others which rules out D844/8 and looks like '2' to me, as it has a horizontal at the bottom. A '0' would be quite easy to spot, I think. In summary, it would be safe to say "probably D842."

 

Sorry for being so fussy but there might not be another Warship to identify.

 

.

 

Sorry I thought I had already posted. Not D842 - went from green into MSYP in October 1966, after Dave's photo (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/63244-warship-liveries/?p=830456) and the nameplate looks like one word not two. When I enlarge the photo, it clearly shows as D848.

Edited October 12, 2018 by brushman47544

[DaveF]

Thanks, I believe we can do better than D84x, though. When I plumped for D842 I hadn't checked which D84x carried maroon and there were only four: D840/2/4/8.

 

The third digit in the photo is different from the others which rules out D844/8 and looks like '2' to me, as it has a horizontal at the bottom. A '0' would be quite easy to spot, I think. In summary, it would be safe to say "probably D842."

 

Sorry for being so fussy but there might not be another Warship to identify.

 

.

 

 

Sorry I thought I had already posted. Not D842 I think - the nameplate looks like one word not two. When I enlarge the photo, it clearly shows as D848.

 

 

Below is an enlargement from the scan of the image which might make things clearer.

 

 

 

David

[brushman47544]

Below is an enlargement from the scan of the image which might make things clearer.

 

 

577.jpg

 

David

 

I've since amended my post because I found the livery info on here. D842 went into MSYP in 10/66, so after the date of Dave's photo. To my eyes, your enlargement, as with mine, looks like D848 from the options available. The loco also looks quite shiny, which would be consistent with D848 being painted marron in June 1966, two months before Dave's photo.

Edited October 12, 2018 by brushman47544

[DaveF]

Today's photos are all in Newcastle, some at the station, others nearby.

 

As I worked on the edge of the city I used to go and take photos from time to time after work, since I retired I think the only times I've been there were for hospital appointments at the RVI and Nuffield.

 

 

Newcastle High Level Bridge Class 105 and 101 Newcastle to South Shields Feb 80 J6774  We've seen this train before, but but this is a different image.

 

 

Newcastle High Level Bridge footway on road deck Feb 80 J6782

 

 

Newcastle 45109 ecs from Heaton for train to Poole 6th Aug 85 C7050

 

 

Newcastle 143016 Newcastle to Hexham 29th July 86 C7681

 

 

Newcastle 43044 up 3rd Aug 86 C7843

 

 

David

 

 

 

[Rugd1022]

More great stuff, thanks for sharing Dave... J6782 of the High Level Bridge walkway is very 'Get Carter', even ten years after the film was shot (Summer of 1970)

[rogerramjet]

Newcastle High Level Bridge reminds me of the programme "what ever happened to the likely lads"  im sure that bridge is in opening credits

[62613]

More great stuff, thanks for sharing Dave... J6782 of the High Level Bridge walkway is very 'Get Carter', even ten years after the film was shot (Summer of 1970)

Summer of 1969, surely; in the gunfight on the Wallsend Ferry scene, The Esso Northumbria is still fitting out. She left the Tyne late 69/early 70, didn't she?

[woodenhead]

More great stuff, thanks for sharing Dave... J6782 of the High Level Bridge walkway is very 'Get Carter', even ten years after the film was shot (Summer of 1970)

That's why I recognise it, I was thinking I had walked the bridge but couldn't think why, my only time trainspotting in Newcastle was spent in the station - there was an 03 it was so long ago.

 

Also it was used at the very end of 'Our friends in the North'.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle photo’s which capture how the station and area was all those years ago so perfectly. In C7681, with 143016 on a Newcastle to Hexham service, on 29th July, 1986, the Pacer will soon be no more, which makes the photo’ of historical interest. Indeed, soon, none of the trains, in the photo’s will be in service on today’s railway any longer including the HST in the last photo’ except for limited services in places such as Scotrail. Thank goodness you took these photo’s when you did.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Rugd1022]

Summer of 1969, surely; in the gunfight on the Wallsend Ferry scene, The Esso Northumbria is still fitting out. She left the Tyne late 69/early 70, didn't she?

 

No, definitely shot in July, August and September of '70, the director Mike Hodges was given Ted Lewis's novel 'Jacks Return Home' in March that year and signed up for the film two weeks later, the film was based on the book. The film took about forty days to shoot during those three months over the Summer, about four or five days of which were spent shooting the Wallsend scenes. (Steve Chobnal's excellent book on the making of the film has the actual shooting dates for each scene, taken from the production 'call sheets'  ).

Edited October 12, 2018 by Rugd1022

[drjcontroller]

That's why I recognise it, I was thinking I had walked the bridge but couldn't think why, my only time trainspotting in Newcastle was spent in the station - there was an 03 it was so long ago.

 

Also it was used at the very end of 'Our friends in the North'.

 

Actually it was the Tyne Bridge at the end of the final episode where Geordie is seen walking south across it.

[Western Glory]

Below is an enlargement from the scan of the image which might make things clearer.

 

577.jpg

 

David

Thanks for the larger photo.

 

Greyscale, negative, 200% horizontal stretch

 

Greyscale, negative, 200% horizontal stretch, 50% magnification

 

I'm still plumping for D842!

[DaveF]

Another Scottish selection today.

 

Once again you may have to look up the exact location of two of them.

 

When I was sorting out the Forth Bridge photos I was struck by the difference in apparent colour between the sunlit and shaded areas.

 

 

South Queensferry Forth Bridge Aug 73 J3270

 

 

South Queensferry Forth Bridge Aug 73 J3272

 

 

Crianlarich Aug 73 J3329

 

 

Fort George branch remains Aug 74 J3912

 

 

Avoch Fortrose branch Aug 74 J3945

 

 

Glasgow Queen Street 47705 Glasgow QS to Aberdeen 2nd March 84 C6419

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Scottish photo’s, which are a great selection. What a lovely and bucolic scene in J3912, with the Fort George branch line remains in August, 1974. Those cattle would be a great sight on a Scottish layout.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[stewartingram]

J3912 - is that the Cowes branch?

 

Stewart

[brushman47544]

Thanks for the larger photo.

Greyscale, negative, 200% horizontal stretch

D842.png

Greyscale, negative, 200% horizontal stretch, 50% magnification

D842-50%.png

I'm still plumping for D842!

I agree in these images the last digit looks less like an 8 but it doesn’t look more like a 2 either. But how do you reconcile the livery with the date? As recorded in the Warship Liveries thread in Special Interests http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/63244-warship-liveries/?p=830456, D842 wasn’t painted maroon until after the date of the photo... Edited October 13, 2018 by brushman47544

[DaveF]

I agree in these images the last digit looks less like an 8 but it doesn’t look more like a 2 either. But how do you reconcile the livery with the date? As recorded in the Warship thread in Special Interests, D842 wasn’t painted maroon until after the date of the photo...

 

 

I've had another look at the image and really cannot make up my mind about the number.

 

I've also checked the date, it is definitely August 1966.  I had just started to learn to drive so the holiday with Mum and Dad remains clear in my memory, as I was  allowed to do some of the driving in Dad's brand new Morris 1100 - a big change from his previous car, a Jaguar MkIX - which he had decided I was not going to learn to drive in.

 

I did get to drive a Jaguar as a learner though, our next door neighbour had a Jaguar Mk2 3.4 which he let me drive under his supervision quite often.  He had been a fighter pilot in WW2 and saw nothing to worry about in letting a 17 year old drive a powerful car.

 

David

[Market65]

Hello, everyone. That Warship is certainly of much interest trying to decipher its number. I’ve looked, and looked st all the images of that number. I can only really add that it could be a 3. I’m probably wrong! It’s certainly interesting trying to work it out, and, hopefully, the skills involved will help us all when it comes to model making.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Early days at the Yorkshire Dales Railway featuring Embsay for this week's preserved railway photos.

 

It doesn't seem that long since these photos were taken, I can remember quite a lot about the days I took the four of mine, even though three are from 34/5 years ago and one from 45 years ago.

 

Note that Banshee had not been repainted between 1973 and 1975, the 1973 photo was on Fujichrome, the 1975 photo was on Agfachrome film.

 

 

 

Embsay Peckett 3 foot gauge Banshee Feb 73 C1207

 

 

Embsay Peckett Banshee metre gauge March 75 J4206

 

 

Embsay Hunslet Darfield No 1 Aug 83 C6248

 

 

Embsay Hunslet Darfield No 1 Aug 83 C6249

 

 

Embsay Hunslet Primrose No 2 6th Aug 84 C6597

 

David

 

Early days at the Yorkshire Dales Railway featuring Embsay for this week's preserved railway photos.

Edited October 14, 2018 by DaveF

[russ p]

Morning David, great pictures is the vehicle next tov the peckett some kind of EMU vehicle?, incidentally did the peckett actually run there as it seems to have its own 3ft gauge track

[Rugd1022]

Hello, everyone. That Warship is certainly of much interest trying to decipher its number. I’ve looked, and looked st all the images of that number. I can only really add that it could be a 3. I’m probably wrong! It’s certainly interesting trying to work it out, and, hopefully, the skills involved will help us all when it comes to model making.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

 

It can't be a three Rob, D843 was never maroon 

[DaveF]

Morning David, great pictures is the vehicle next tov the peckett some kind of EMU vehicle?, incidentally did the peckett actually run there as it seems to have its own 3ft gauge track

 

I don't think the Peckett ever ran there, but cannot be certain.

 

The coach next to the Peckett is from an emu.  It is either 29666 or 29670 from the Altrincham line (MSJ&AR).

 

David