RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 10 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 10 (edited) It's June 1972, probably the 10th this morning and we are at Fenny Comptom watching trains while waiting to see Clun Castle on a special working. Fenny Compton Class 33 6513 down oil June 72 J2936 Fenny Compton Class 47 1758 June 72 J2937 Fenny Compton 7029 Clun Castle Birmingham to Didcot Celebration Steam Run June 72 J2938 Fenny Compton 7029 Clun Castle Birmingham to Didcot Celebration Steam Run June 72 J2940 Fenny Compton Class 47 1753 Birmingham to Paddington June 72 J2944 Fenny Compton Class 117 Reading to Birmingham June 72 J2945 dmu class corrected David Edited April 10 by DaveF 54 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Dyson (onslaught832) Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) Really enjoying your pics David. It's funny how we would wait for a special, but the pics we take of the everyday services while we are waiting are even more interesting 🙂 Edited April 10 by Phill Dyson (onslaught832) 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10 (edited) J2945 is interesting. Other than the fact the passengers would have had to put up with a DMU all the way from Reading to Birmingham (I'd simply wait for the next loco hauled train), it's the first time I've seen a Reading based Pressed Steel Class 117 unit with a fourth coach added - and a Met-Cam with non-suburban seating to boot. Edited April 10 by brushman47544 typo 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted April 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, DaveF said: Fenny Compton Class 47 1758 June 72 J2937 interesting to see the bridge carrying the SMJR line to line toward Woodford halse still in place at wormleighton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, brushman47544 said: J2945 is interesting. Other than the fact the passengers would have had to put up with a DMU all the way from Reading to Birmingham (I'd simply wait for the next loco hauled train), it's the first time I've seen a Reading based Pressed Steel Class 117 unit with a fourth coach added - and a Met-Cam with non-suburban seating to boot. Could it have been a last-minute replacement/relief for a no-show/very late hauled service? I saw that a few times when I was down that way in the early 80s. But yes, the 4-car 117/Met-Cam is pretty unusual. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 10 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 10 The ECML around Little Bytham in 1971 and 1973 once again this evening. Little Bytham Class 40 down March 71 J2528 Little Bytham Class 47 poss 1515 down 14.20 Kings X to York May 71 J2652 Little Bytham Class 55 9018 11.30 Kings X to Leeds and Harrogate May 71 J2654 Little Bytham Class 47 1973 12.00 Kings X to Aberdeen May 71 J2657 Little Bytham Class 47 1101 14.10 Newcastle to Kings X May 73 J3193 David 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 10 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10 Good evening, David. That’s a great set of photo’s from June, 1972, possibly the 10th, at Fenny Compton. J2944, of Class 47, 1753, on a Birmingham to Paddington service, is a superb composition by your Dad, and the 47 is well weathered, especially the cab roof. The photo’s of the ECML, around Little Bytham, in 1971 and 1973, are a fantastic selection. J2657, of Class 47, 1973, on the 12.00 Kings Cross to Aberdeen express train in May, 1971, is a splendid composition from track level which makes it most impressive. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted April 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10 11 hours ago, DaveF said: Fenny Compton Class 115 Reading to Birmingham June 72 J2945 As mentioned, this is a cl.117 unit - according to railcar.co.uk L420 was formed 51367, 59519, 51409 (DMBS, TCL, DMS) and the unit was gangwayed. The Met-Camm TCL was one of three allocated to Reading, used to strengthen services to 4-car. These TCLs were replacements for three converted l/h Hawksworth coaches (which had initially been used in Cross-Country sets). https://www.railcar.co.uk/type/class-117/operations 1 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 11 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 11 Some photos at Butterley , The Midland Railway Trust in 1978 and 1982. Once again a reminder that in those days people were allowed to walk almost anywhere they liked. Butterley 6203 27th May 78 C3845 Butterley 4F 44027 27th May 78 C3848 Butterley 673 27th May 78 C3851 Butterley 27th May 78 C3858 Butterley 16440 Aug 82 C5841 Butterley 16440 Aug 82 C5847 David 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johann Marsbar Posted April 11 Popular Post Share Posted April 11 My first visit to the MRC was back in 1982 and, as you say, it was rather a different place back then..... Last time I went there was for a Diesel Gala back in 2007 and, frankly, I wasn't that impressed with the way the place seemed to have gone, so haven't actually been back since then..... 28 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 11 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 11 (edited) Black and white late 1940s photos at Cambridge from Dad come next. One is at March Cambridge B1 up Yarmouth to Liverpool St c1948 JVol1202 Cambridge B17 1624 up pass c1948 JVol7270 Cambridge J15 ecs 1947 JVol1438 March J20 1947 JVol1429 Cambridge K3 ord pass 1947 JVol1430 David Edited April 12 by DaveF 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 11 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic selection of photo’s at Butterley, The Midland Railway Trust, in 1978 and 1982. C3848, of 4F, 44027, on the 27th May, 1978, is a splendid three quarter portrait shot of the locomotive. The black and white, late 1940’s photo’s at Cambridge, are a superb set. The last photo’ of a K3 on an ordinary passenger train in 1947, is an excellent photo’, and it can be seen that the formation of stock after the LMS BG, is a five car steel articulated set with the CK replaced with a teak bodied example. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted April 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11 Thanks David for posting yet more lovely pictures taken by your father at Cambridge in the 1940s, but are you sure the one of the J20 (JVol1429) was taken there, as I can't place whereabouts if could be? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 11 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11 37 minutes ago, 31A said: Thanks David for posting yet more lovely pictures taken by your father at Cambridge in the 1940s, but are you sure the one of the J20 (JVol1429) was taken there, as I can't place whereabouts if could be? I'll have to be honest and admit I don't know, I didn't look at the railway in Cambridge until the 1970s. All I can say is that it was one of a small batch for which there was no catalogue entry but was in Album No1. When I scanned it I took the caption details off the notes he had written on the back of the print. If it isn't Cambridge it will be in the area, I know he visited March from time to time and sometimes travelled to Liverpool Street. Does anyone know? David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 42 minutes ago, DaveF said: I'll have to be honest and admit I don't know, I didn't look at the railway in Cambridge until the 1970s. All I can say is that it was one of a small batch for which there was no catalogue entry but was in Album No1. When I scanned it I took the caption details off the notes he had written on the back of the print. If it isn't Cambridge it will be in the area, I know he visited March from time to time and sometimes travelled to Liverpool Street. Does anyone know? David I found two GE engine shed books from my father, certainly not Cambridge nor Kings Lynn, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, 31A said: Thanks David for posting yet more lovely pictures taken by your father at Cambridge in the 1940s, but are you sure the one of the J20 (JVol1429) was taken there, as I can't place whereabouts if could be? Having looked at a few photos, I wonder if it could be March? Martyn 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 22 minutes ago, mullie said: Having looked at a few photos, I wonder if it could be March? Martyn Would the water tower be that close for March? Been through two volumes of GE sheds and nothing similar. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted April 11 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, mullie said: Having looked at a few photos, I wonder if it could be March? Martyn Bingo Martyn, yes I believe you are correct! The west end of March station with March North Junction box just out of shot to the left, and Norwood Road on the embankment in the background, leading to the overbridge which is visible behind the first vehicle of the train. I can't find any photos on line to support this but here is the March North signal box diagram from the 1960s, by which time the signalling had been simplified and it seems the siding ending at the buffer stops by the platform ramp was no longer there. But it looks to me as though the picture was probably taken from Platform 6 (per the diagram; present day westbound platform now numbered 1) with the face of Platform 5 in the foreground and the west facing bay platforms 3 and 4 beyond that. https://www.flickr.com/photos/pwayowen/7275153232 I don't think the water tower in the picture was associated with the loco depot, which was a long way away from the station on the other side of Norwood Road bridge and had its own water tower, but may have been to supply water cranes in the station area. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Looking at old maps, I can match a siding to the platform end as per the picture and two buildings at the right angle for one of them to potentially be a water tower nearby. 2 3 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 12 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 12 (edited) Thanks for the information about the J20 photo so I now know it is at March. I've updated the caption. Now for today's photos. These are again from Switzerland at Zweissimmen, an end on Junction between the MOB (Montreux Oberland Bernois) metre gauge line from Montrues and a branch of the BLS, standard gauge, from Spiez. Very recently trains have been developed to allow through running from Montreux to Interlaken with aoutomatic gauge changing at Zweisimmen. The photos are from August 1991. Zweisimmen BLS Re4/4 175 Interlaken Ost to Zweisimmen 16th Aug 91 C16450 The loco is in the middle of the train. Zweisimmen MOB ABDe8/8 4003 Zweisimmen to Montreux 16th Aug 91 C16451 Zweisimmen MOB BDe4/4 5004 Zweisimmen to Lenk 16th Aug 91 C16452 Zweisimmen MOB BDe4/4 37 16th Aug 91 C16454 Zweisimmen MOB BDe4/4 3002 16th Aug 91 C16455 Zweisimmen MOB GDe4/4 6003 16th Aug 91 C16457 Zweisimmen MOB GDe4/4 6002 16th Aug 91 C16458 David Edited April 12 by DaveF 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Sorry to jump back a post, but this... 21 hours ago, DaveF said: ... leading carriage is either NER or one of the LNER built ones immediately after Grouping for the GE Area. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 12 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12 One you probably didn't take when you were there: Zweisimmen from the cablecar up the adjacent mountain. When I got to the top the restaurant was so full of Germans I couldn't get served. Jonathan 16 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chris Turnbull Posted April 12 Popular Post Share Posted April 12 Here is D6746 at March on 8th July 1968. Pretty conclusive I think! Chris Turnbull 21 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 12 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 12 Some WCML photos around Hademore and Harow and Wealdstone. Hademore Class 87 Euston to Carlisle Jan 76 J5028 Hademore Class 310 Nuneaton to Stafford Jan 76 J5029 Harrow and Wealdstone Clas 86 Liverpool to Euston June 76 J5291 Harrow and Wealdstone Class 501 Watford to London June 76 J5292 going away Harrow and Wealdstone Class 501 down June 76 J5293 Harrow and Wealdstone Class 310 down June 76 J5294 David 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 12 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s from Switzerland at Zweissimmen, on the 16th August, 1991. C16454, of MOB BDe4/4, 37, is a particularly excellent three quarter portrait shot of the railcar. The WCML photo’s from around Hademore and Harow and Wealdstone, are an excellent selection. J5292, at Harrow and Wealdstone, with a Class 501, on a Watford to London service, in June, 1976, going away from the camera, is a superb shot, and the guards van door can be seen to be open in the leading car of the rear three car set. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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