RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Back to the Tilbury line today with some photos at Laindon, on the "direct" line from Barking to Pitsea and Southend. At the time I lived about ten minutes walk from the station so if I wasn't going out anywhere I sometimes walked down to watch trains. Usually that would have been on Sunday afternoons. Laindon 302240 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St Feb 77 C3190 Laindon 302 296 Fenchurch St to Shoeburyness July 77 C3379 Laindon 302 297 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St July 77 C3381 Laindon 302227 Shoeburyness to Fenchurch St Dec 78 C4222 The HST photo was taken just as the sun was rising on a frosty morning. It shows there is a prototype for (almost) everything. I wonder how much work had to be done to assess clearances for Mk3 stock along the route. Laindon 254027 Special Shoeburyness to York Sat 24th March 79 C4364 Edited to remove three redundant words David Edited August 15, 2016 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2016 Hi, Dave. More excellent photo's of the LT&SR today. The class 302 units were clearly true workhorses as were the first generation DMU's. Interesting to see the HST - I think it has featured earlier in this thread. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Kudos to Dave and his dad. I really miss the nationalised railway and banger blue.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Back down south today with a few more photos from around Petts Wood, all taken on 3rd May 1980, shortly before I moved north. It looks as though it was another dull day. At the time I was revisiting a lot of places for the last time. Petts Wood Class 73 down carflats 3rd May 80 C5024 Petts Wood Class 411 7192 up 3rd May 80 C5026 Petts Wood Class 201 1007 up 3rd May 80 C5030 Petts Wood Class 203 1034 down 3rd May 80 C5031 Petts Wood Class 415 5135 down 3rd May 80 C5033 David Edited August 16, 2016 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2016 Petts Wood after the first major remodelling (for electrification) but before the second one (for Eurostar) - historical shots yet again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hi, Dave. Excellent photos of Petts Wood. In C5030, I see the guards door is open on the DMBS of unit 1007. I just hope that no one ended up on track as a result. Now, congratulations on reaching page 300. Again another milestone has been reached in this extraordinary thread. Please keep all the photos coming. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 16, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Hi, Dave. Excellent photos of Petts Wood. In C5030, I see the guards door is open on the DMBS of unit 1007. I just hope that no one ended up on track as a result. Now, congratulations on reaching page 300. Again another milestone has been reached in this extraordinary thread. Please keep all the photos coming. With warmest regards, Rob. I've quite often seen trains with a guard's door open, though I don't have many photos of them. In Switzerland, when I used to have holidays there in the 80s and 90s, you could often see the guard leaning on the handrail across an open door on parcels vans when the train was going along. David Edited August 16, 2016 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) A few up to date photos, taken yesterday morning at Damdykes. As usual just ordinary trains going about their everyday business - but if you don't take photos of them then in a few years time it is hard to remember the details of liveries etc. At a future date someone will want to know what the unbranded Northern livery was, and for how long it existed. Some more old ones to come a little later. BSC_1172 Damdykes 82216 Edinburgh to Kings X 1E07 1007 16th Aug 16 BSC_1173 Damdykes 156475 Morpeth to Metro Centre 2N15 1008 16th Aug 16 BSC_1176 Damdykes 82210 Edinburgh to Kings X 1E08 1016 16th Aug 16 SC_1178 Damdykes Class 220 Glasgow C to Plymouth 1V56 1027 16th Aug 16 BSC_1180 Damdykes Class 142 Metro Centre to Morpeth 2A06 1028 16th Aug 16 Edited to correct the first sentence. David Edited August 17, 2016 by DaveF 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) I was going to write "A bit of a Leicestershire Miscellany today, one photo actually contains a moving train." However not all the locations are in Leicestershire, one is in Cheshire (Heatley and Warburton) and Bingham Road station was in Nottinghamshire. Bingham Road station was the first station on the GN and LNWR Joint line to Leicester and Northampton after it diverged from the GNR Grantham to Nottingham line at the west facing Saxondale Junction. Bingham Road GN and LNWR Joint bridge over A52 April 69 J1653 Bingham Road station GN and LNWR Joint April 69 J1654 Market Bosworth MR and LNW Joint May 69 J1695 Castle Donington Class 20 D8111 and ano down May 69 J1698 Heatley and Warburton LNWR May 69 J1706 This was between Ditton Junction and Skelton Junction. The station closed in August 1965 David Edited August 17, 2016 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hi, Dave. Stunning photos from Damdykes and I wonder how long it will be before that awful advertising livery of Northern gets applied to all of their trains. Good to see that those units photographed yesterday have not been defaced by it. The second set of photos are a true historical record from what will soon be 50 years ago. I must ask about the sidings visible in J1698 at Castle Donnington. I wonder if they were something to do with the nearby power station. And what a delightful signal that can be seen in the last photo. There clearly must have been sidings to the rear of where your Dad was stood when he took that photo. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hi, Dave. Stunning photos from Damdykes and I wonder how long it will be before that awful advertising livery of Northern gets applied to all of their trains. Good to see that those units photographed yesterday have not been defaced by it. The second set of photos are a true historical record from what will soon be 50 years ago. I must ask about the sidings visible in J1698 at Castle Donnington. I wonder if they were something to do with the nearby power station. And what a delightful signal that can be seen in the last photo. There clearly must have been sidings to the rear of where your Dad was stood when he took that photo. With warmest regards, Rob. I think the sidings were for the power station. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Re-Castle Donington (note only three "n's in the spelling, not four). Yes, the x2 EE Type 1s are passing the entrance/exit to CD Power Station on the left. You got the semaphore signalling just in time David, before Trent PSB was opened - note the new point motors already in situ. Edited August 17, 2016 by Peter Kazmierczak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Re-Castle Donington (note only three "n's in the spelling, not four). Yes, the x2 EE Type 1s are passing the entrance/exit to CD Power Station on the left. You got the semaphore signalling just in time David, before Trent PSB was opened - note the new point motors already in situ. It's my keyboard again - or at least that's my excuse. It's actually one of Dad's photos, I remember he commented on the forthcoming signalling changes - every time we looked at his photos! I was in Manchester when he took it. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 17, 2016 Pic 1654 Bingham. That's a footpath now isn't it David? I think that lovely bridge in the far distance still crosses the cutting? Pic 1653; for those that are in the know one can still see the 'space' left from that bridge as you drive that road. Finally, that Glasgow Plymouth service; which route does it take please. Is it through Donny? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Pic 1654 Bingham. That's a footpath now isn't it David? I think that lovely bridge in the far distance still crosses the cutting? Pic 1653; for those that are in the know one can still see the 'space' left from that bridge as you drive that road. Finally, that Glasgow Plymouth service; which route does it take please. Is it through Donny? Phil I believe it is now a footpath at Bingham, but I've not been back to the actual location for over thirty years. The XC train is York, Leeds, Wakefield, Sheffield, Derby etc. Yesterday (the day I took the photos), after I had taken the local details from Real Time Trains it was cancelled beyond Newton Abbot because of "late arrival of an inbound service". Today it ran correctly through to Plymouth. It was an hour late arriving at Newton Abbott yesterday. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Lovely shot of the short armed signal at Heatley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Re-Castle Donington (note only three "n's in the spelling, not four). Yes, the x2 EE Type 1s are passing the entrance/exit to CD Power Station on the left. You got the semaphore signalling just in time David, before Trent PSB was opened - note the new point motors already in situ. Try as I might I can only find 2 "n's" Pete. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) A couple of questions about the shot of Market Bosworth J1695 if you don't mind Dave. Is it an artifact of the perspective, or wouldn't a train coming to a stand at the signal foul the goods yard exit? And, is that a facing crossover in the foreground, and if so, how common would that be? It's not what I would think of as standard Midland practice, as far as i know. Thanks, Al. Edited August 17, 2016 by acg_mr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 A couple of questions about the shot of Market Bosworth J1695 if you don't mind Dave. Is it an artifact of the perspective, or wouldn't a train coming to a stand at the signal foul the goods yard exit? And, is that a facing crossover in the foreground, and if so, how common would that be? It's not what I would think of as standard Midland practice, as far as i know. Thanks, Al. The signal is protecting the facing connection, the reason it's there as opposed to further back is it simplifies the locking - if it were futher back then both it and the signal controlling exit from the yard would need to be locked in the lever frame, as it stands, that is done once and the yard exit is a simple signal, and the main also has a simple signal visible in the distance. The line is LNWR but facing connections were unusual, not necessarily rare, but they would be provided if traffic requirements dictated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Re Market Bosworth, regular passenger trains had ceased in 1931, which would explain the state of the station ! The facing crossover looks as if it could actually be a double to single line connection, perhaps installed after the station had closed and the line had been rationalised ? The removal of the platform coping stones alongside the facing point (only) might support this. I would be surprised if the signal was in that location when the station was open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Try as I might I can only find 2 "n's" Pete. Mike. Donington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) A couple of questions about the shot of Market Bosworth J1695 if you don't mind Dave. Is it an artifact of the perspective, or wouldn't a train coming to a stand at the signal foul the goods yard exit? And, is that a facing crossover in the foreground, and if so, how common would that be? It's not what I would think of as standard Midland practice, as far as i know. Thanks, Al. I have to admit I haven't got a clue, I never visited Market Bosworth, it's one of Dad's photos. I have no idea of what was behind him as he only took one photo while he was there. So thanks very much to beast66606 and caradoc for their comments. Edit I've just had a look at the Midland railway Line Diagrams in John Gough's "The Midland Railway - A Chronology" RCHS 1989 ISBN 0-901461-12-1 It didn't have a facing crossover in December 1919, just the trailing connection into the goods yard which is the Up side as in the photo. The goods yard had the usual Midland style loop through the goods shed with the short spur to the cattle dock and a track between the shed and main line.. There were three further sidings behind the goods shed. On the Down side there were two sidings which were on the flat area of land in front of the signal box in the photo. Market Bosworth station opened in 1873 (goods 18th August, passengers 1st September). The original signal box was replaced by a new one in January 1899. The station closed to passengers 13th April 1931, parcels 2nd July 1951. The line was singled between Market Bosworth and Shackerstone Junction on 29th November 1964. This would explain what looks like a facing crossover which in fact was the start of the single line, also the placing of the signal. The line was taken out of use 12th November 1971. Reopened in preservation 26th March 1978. David Edited August 17, 2016 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 17, 2016 Re Market Bosworth, regular passenger trains had ceased in 1931, which would explain the state of the station ! The facing crossover looks as if it could actually be a double to single line connection, perhaps installed after the station had closed and the line had been rationalised ? The removal of the platform coping stones alongside the facing point (only) might support this. I would be surprised if the signal was in that location when the station was open. Same principle for the signal - except also insert token working releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 17, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2016 Whilst looking for something else (actually photos of Aerolite) I came across the only photos I ever took near Market Bosworth, which show Teddy Boston (of Cadeby) and Audrey with her narrow boat. They are railway photos (just) as the Ashby Canal was bought by the Midland Railway in 1846. Market Bosworth Ashby canal Teddy Boston and Audrey Aug 71 C697 Dad is on the left of the photo. Market Bosworth Ashby Canal Teddy Boston Aug 71 C698 David 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Pic 1654 Bingham. That's a footpath now isn't it David? I think that lovely bridge in the far distance still crosses the cutting? Pic 1653; for those that are in the know one can still see the 'space' left from that bridge as you drive that road. Finally, that Glasgow Plymouth service; which route does it take please. Is it through Donny? Phil Knowing Bingham like the back of my hand having lived there! Yes, the 3 arch bridge in the background is still in use as Tithby Road crosses the cutting. Nice to see the bridge over the old A52. The houses that can be seen through the bridge are still standing, but the right hand embankment has long gone under the housing estate. The nearside embankment, as you say is a footpath/nature trail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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