RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted October 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2016 The new machines look as if they are Westinghouse Style M63 or Style 70 point machines. The older ones definitely look more like an SGE design (Style HA?) but the frames were definitely Westinghouse in both boxes. I remember we did some drawings for the proposed conversion from HA machines to Westinghouse 63 type when I was in Crewe DO in 1970. The old SGE machines were getting life expired, not surprising as many were originally made in the 1930s. There was a regular Sunday job changing them in those days. They were taken down to the Telegraph Shop in Gresty Road for a complete strip down and rebuild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 It wasn`t to long ago, we had a red 8f And a near pink Deltic. times aint changed that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2016 It was - http://www.abandonedstations.org.uk/WidenedLines.html gives a better view of the crossover. ICBW but I believe that it was last used in the 1960s when the occasional freight still ran along the Metropolitan and it used this to gain access to the Snow Hill route. Hi The crossover was to allow the GWR/WR meat trains to gain access to Smithfields Market. Freight trains to and from the SR via Snow Hill used the BR set of lines as they were from Ferne Park (LNER/ER) or Brent (LMS/LMR). The crossover had certainly gone by the time I worked in the area a few years after 1975 as I used that station every day for a number of years. In the first of the sequence you can see part of the old warehouse, still showing signs of bomb damage. Part of the building was being used as a car park. Hence the ramp in the later photo. Of course, it has gone now, replaced by a pretty anodyne office block. However, I seem to remember that the closeness to the Widened Lines, by then electrified at 25 kV, caused the building designers some problems is ensuring no interference with IT equipment in the offices. And our model railway club (Welwyn Garden City & District) built a layout called Finsbury Squuare and planned to use a low relief model of the warehouse as a backscene. It never happened because the club lost its premises and closed. But the photos I took at the time proved the starting point for an article about the warehouse and area in the HMRS Journal a couple of years ago. Jonathan Hi Jonathan The old warehouse was the ex GNR goods shed at Farringdon and was still in use in the early 60s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted October 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2016 Not to continue this too much further, but here is one of the photos of the warehouse which I took in the 1970s. Jonathan 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2016 Hi The crossover was to allow the GWR/WR meat trains to gain access to Smithfields Market. Freight trains to and from the SR via Snow Hill used the BR set of lines as they were from Ferne Park (LNER/ER) or Brent (LMS/LMR). This link is quite useful http://www.harsig.org/PDF/CircleWidened.pdf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 This link is quite useful http://www.harsig.org/PDF/CircleWidened.pdf Thanks to both Clive & Stationmaster - very informative. This was my stamping ground for nearly 25 years, on a daily basis. History of track layouts always fascinates me, in much the same way that I can study a detailed road atlas for hours! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2016 A few random photos from Scotland today, mostly taken while on holiday there in 1973. Craigendoran Class 101 Glasgow to Oban Aug 73 C1352 Forth Bridge Aug 73 C1304 Stirling from the castle Class 26 up in distance Aug 73 C1358 Stirling from the castle Aug 73 C1359 Inverness 6th Aug 76 C2961 David 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 The picture of Craigdoran is interesting, never seen a station like that before with the second level so open to a platform. And a 101 on an Oban service, was that common for a DMU? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the Scottish photos. As stated by woodenhead, Craigendoran is a quite unique station being on different levels. 101's and, I think, 107's worked to Oban, along with some 100's. The Railcar website will have full details. I particularly like the photo of the Forth Bridge. I believe that, having used modern paints, it does not have to be painted for a few years. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2016 The epoxy coating on the Forth bridge is supposed to last 20 years. I wonder what sort of repair work will be required when that stuff needs to be taken off? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 1, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) I think I've actually got both the day and month right today! Photos from Derbyshire for today. Grindleford Class 101 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield April 76 C2696 The centre car is not from a 101. It is probably a Class 104 TSL. Grindleford 156412 to Liverpool 19th April 90 C 14424 Grindleford view west 19th April 90 C14425 Whaley Bridge LNWR Buxton line bridge over A6 June 69 J1732 Ilkeston goods yard Awsworth viaduct beyond June 69 J1759 Edited December 11, 2016 by DaveF 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I think I've actually got both the day and month right today! Photos from Derbyshire for today. Grindleford Class 101 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield April 76 C2696.jpg Grindleford Class 101 Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield April 76 C2696 The centre car is not from a 101. Quite correct Dave. It looks like a class 104 TSL. Possibly one out of a 4 car set depending on where the unit is based. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Paul beat me to it whilst I was dithering, so I won't bother posting the same remark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the Derbyshire photos - a good selection. In the first one, the trailer car is a class 104, BRC&W TSL. They were often inserted between class 101 or class 111 power cars in that way. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2016 J1732, What a pity the road sign is in the way of the No6 advert. I am always on the look out for adverts in colour photos form most periods. With a little work they can be made into "layout" adverts. Nothing looks worse on a layout than adverts that are out of period to the rolling stock and road vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 Great photos of Grindleford Dave, thank you. Interesting to compare C14425 with this taken last month: Not much sign of the Up sidings on the right,now! Al. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) C14424 - the number on the front of the unit in the picture is 156 412. Also, there is an excess 'e' in the station name. Apart from that, a terrific set of shots, as usual... Edited November 1, 2016 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 1, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2016 C14424 - the number on the front of the unit in the picture is 156 412. Also, there is an excess 'e' in the station name. Apart from that, a terrific set of shots, as usual... I almost always blame my keyboard for mistakes, even when they are clearly my fault. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 2, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2016 We'll travel back in time to April and October 1987 today to see some trains and locos at Carlisle. Carlisle Class 108 54241 and 53960 Leeds to Carlisle 14th April 87 C8292 Carlisle 81006 27th Oct 87 C9191 Carlisle 47231 down rails from Workington 27th Oct 87 C9193 Carlisle 47450 27th Oct 87 C9204 Carlisle 86238 Glasgow to Euston 27th Oct 87 C9211 David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photos. What a good portrait of 47 450 in C9204. And a nicely weathered 81006 in C9191. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 3, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) Some more ECML photos today, taken between 1969 and 1976. They are in date order. :Burton le Coggles Class 46 D177 up July 69 J1775 08.48 Halifax 09.00 Bradford 09.30 Leeds to Kings X The third coach is the 1957 Cravens prototype SO. Gamston Class 55 9002 up Dec 70 J2477 11.00 Newcastle to Kings X High Dyke Class 46 up Feb 71 J2513 08.30 Halifax 08.50 Bradford 09.20 Leeds to Kings X Barkston Class 55 9016 up Feb 71 J2517 12.00 Edinburgh to Kimngs X Dry Doddington Class 55 up Dec 76 C3119 09.20 Newcastle to Kings X Many thanks again to Mark 54 for the extra information. David Edited November 3, 2016 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2016 Splendid stuff Dave ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photos that you have posted today. That first one of 46, D177, shows a very grimy engine that cannot have been cleaned for a long time! The photo' J2477 of 55 9002 is such a classic view of a Deltic hauled train. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Excellent pictures Dave. The current model railway here is on countdown to closure. A space 32x8ft awaits. A four track section ECML theme methinks. Inspirational. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2016 J2513 is a cracking little junction scene - full length expresses going past a junction with sidings. Could have the passenger trains going roundy-roundy while shunting the mineral trains going on/off the branch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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