Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Alcanman]

Did anyone notice that in the first photo of Newsham Road crossing the barriers were still up as the train crossed the road?

 

The man with his hands in his pockets was there to stop traffic approaching from the left, there was also someone else on the other side of the crossing.

 

David

I noticed that too, Dave.  Also, on my photo the crossing gates are open as the 20s cross Newsham Road with a man in attendance.

 

A year earlier during the last week of steam in Sept 1967, there were no gates at Newsham Road as a 4MT crosses the road!

 

 

Edited December 18, 2018 by Alcanman

[DaveF]

Photos mainly taken around Sunderland for today.

 

 

Seaton Carew 143008 Middlesbrough to Newcastle from a train 29th July 86 C7686

 

 

Sunderland Queen Alexander Bridge 23rd June 84 C6533  The last train ran over the railway part of this bridge in 1921.

 

 

Sunderland   signal on South Docks branch 30th May 86 C7566

 

 

Sunderland south docks branch 37200 down ballast 30th May 86 C7568

 

 

Sunderland South Docks branch view south 17th April 87 C8307

 

 

Sunderland South Docks branch view north 17th April 87 C8308

 

 

David

[iands]

Hi Dave,

 

Yet more excellent photos of times gone by, once again thanks for sharing.

 

In C8307, I take it that is Ryhope Grange SB in the distance?

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Sunderland and area photo’s which are so full of interest. The first one at Seaton Carew with 143008 to be seen on a Middlesbrough to Newcastle service was taken from a class 101 DMU sat behind the drivers cab on the 29th July, 1986. The second photo’ of Sunderland’s Queen Alexander Bridge, on the 23rd June, 1984, C6533, is a great view of the bridge which, if the room was available, would make a delightful model.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[russ p]

Great pictures again David

I always find it amazing that the Queen Alexander bridge closed to rail so early

[DaveF]

Hi Dave,

 

Yet more excellent photos of times gone by, once again thanks for sharing.

 

In C8307, I take it that is Ryhope Grange SB in the distance?

 

 

Yes, I think it is unless someone knows otherwise.

 

David

[DaveF]

Today I have been doing what I hope will be about the last of my Christmas shopping. 

 

I happened to go into Smiths and while looking at their magazine display counted the number of Railway magazines and bookazines they stock (model and prototype). 

 

It came to exactly 50 titles, both British and American.  Do all branches stock that many or am I just lucky?

 

 

Now for today's photos which are once again from Harrogate.  As I think I've mentioned before we lived only a couple of minutes walk from the railway across the Stray so it was a favourite vantage point.  

 

I was still at school then doing my A levels The photos are all Dad's, I took black and white then and had a darkroom in the cellar.

 

 

Harrogate June 65 J200

 

 

Harrogate Class 111 Leeds to Harrogate Sept 65 J356  and a Class 110 trailer in the train.

 

 

Harrogate LMS Class 5 45223 Harrogate to Kings X last steam day April 66 J462

 

 

Harrogate Class 24 Yorkshire Pullman Harrogate to Kings X April 66 J464

 

 

HarrogateClass 40 D2xx Harrogate to Kings X April 66 J465

 

 

David

Edited December 19, 2018 by DaveF

[keefer]

Like the scruffy 25 in J464, not what you'd expect for a Pullman train! Also interesting that it's carrying headlamps - the indicator box must have been broken somehow

[SHMD]

I wonder if the 25, (in J464), was just too dirty for it's marker lights to be used so the lamps were added instead?

 

The 101, in J356, could be a promotion picture for the railways - (at the time)!

 

 

Kev.

[eastwestdivide]

J356 I think the centre car is a different type - the windows are completely different in shape/size.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I love the Harrogate photo’s which are so interesting and nostalgic. In J356, the class 101 unit, on a Leeds to Harrogate service in September, 1965, the centre car is a class 110 TSL. The windows have the characteristic surround, and are much deeper. The tumble home is different to a Metro Cammell car, and the roof vents are positioned differently too. Indeed, such hybrid formations were quite common in first generation DMU days. However, the power cars are actually class 111. They have RollsRoyce engines, typified by the smooth battery boxes and much larger radiators, plus the straighter exhaust pipes.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[keefer]

The cl.25 doesn't have front marker lights, just red tail lights.

The 4-character box is front light, so either the blind mechanism or the lighting is broken - hence the use of separate lamps.

 

I think the Met-Camm may have a cl.104 trailer?

[Market65]

The cl.25 doesn't have front marker lights, just red tail lights.

The 4-character box is front light, so either the blind mechanism or the lighting is broken - hence the use of separate lamps.

I think the Met-Camm may have a cl.104 trailer?

Hi, keefer. It’s a class 110 from the surrounds to the windows and the unpainted window vents, neither of which were to be found on class 104 cars.

 

Regards,

 

Rob.

[keefer]

Thanks Rob, i missed your post while typing mine

[cheesysmith]

c7568, good photo there of the steel slag dogfish conversions.

[Enterprisingwestern]

c7568, good photo there of the steel slag dogfish conversions.

 

Also, presumably, 16t minerals in departmental service before overloading became a problem and holes were cut in the side, or did this not happen to all of them?

 

Mike.

[leopardml2341]

Hello David,

 

The EE Type 4 in J465 is not likely to be D235; it carried the name Apapa from 1962.

[Davexoc]

The cl.25 doesn't have front marker lights, just red tail lights.

The 4-character box is front light, so either the blind mechanism or the lighting is broken - hence the use of separate lamps.

I'd go for the blinds as it shows a class 3 headcode for a class 1 train.

 

Dave

[Trog]

Also, presumably, 16t minerals in departmental service before overloading became a problem and holes were cut in the side, or did this not happen to all of them?

 

Mike.

 

You can no doubt guess how long it took the P. Way to discover that if you ignored the holes the spent ballast would bridge over them nicely.

[Clive Mortimore]

J356, I have a spare 110 center car and too many Met-Cam power twins. There is always solutions not problems.

 

Hi David

 

I always like these Harrogate photos, they are of the period I am trying to model, nice mix of units, diesel locos and steam locos.

Edited December 20, 2018 by Clive Mortimore

[corneliuslundie]

And there was me thinking that that class 25 had been repainted in an attempt at maytching the Pullman livery.

 

Hat, coat etc

Jonathan

[DaveF]

Another visit to Teesside this evening featuring Thornaby and Cargo Fleet in dull weather.

 

 

Cargo Fleet Class 101 Bishop Auckland to Saltburn 31st July 1986 C7756

 

 

Thornaby 143007 Middlesbrough to Darlington 21st Feb 87 C8196

 

 

hornaby 21st Feb 87 C8201

 

 

Thornaby 20173 and 20174 l e 21st Feb 87 C8202

 

 

Thornaby 143007 to Middlesbrough 21st Feb 87 C8203

 

 

David

[eastwestdivide]

C8201 the unusual blue bogie tank wagon appears to be Hays (painted out) sulphuric acid, as at https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stssulphuricacid

[Fat Controller]

C8201 the unusual blue bogie tank wagon appears to be Hays (painted out) sulphuric acid, as at https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stssulphuricacid

I'm not 100% sure, but I think those may have ended up on calcium carbonate slurry traffic from Quidhampton.

[russ p]

Great pictures, can't believe they are over thirty years ago. Seems like yesterday